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Consumer Reports - Real Cost of Owning a Hybrid.

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Consumer Reports - Real Cost of Owning a Hybrid.

Consumer Reports - Real Cost of Owning a Hybrid Vehicle

3/1/2006 - 6:03:00 PM



YONKERS, N.Y., March 1 /U.S. Newswire/ -- For consumers who believe that gas/electric hybrid vehicles will save them money, the picture hasn't been so clear. Hybrid vehicles are more fuel efficient and produce lower emissions than conventional gasoline- only vehicles. Most current models of hybrids also score well in Consumer Reports' testing and are highly rated in CR's annual reliability and owner satisfaction surveys.

But do hybrid vehicles really hold the potential to save the consumer money over the long haul?

To find the answer, Consumer Reports investigated all of the major ownership costs and financial benefits of six different hybrid vehicles-a mix of sedans and sport-utility vehicles (SUVs).

In Consumer Reports' analysis, none of the six hybrids tested recovered its price premium in the first five years and 75,000 miles of ownership. In fact, the extra ownership costs over five years for those vehicles ranged from $3,700 to $13,300.
Even when the analysis was extended to a period of 10 years and 150,000 miles, it was not possible to recover the price premium for a hybrid vehicle.

Consumer Reports also found that the benefits and costs of hybrids vary significantly, depending on the model. Because of the wide range of hybrid vehicles available, it's especially important for consumers to look carefully at all aspects of the vehicle before buying.
The 2006 model year vehicles examined in the investigation are the: Ford Escape Hybrid AWD, Honda Accord Hybrid, Honda Civic Hybrid, Lexus RX400h AWD, Toyota Highlander Hybrid Limited AWD and the Toyota Prius.

The full report, titled "The dollars & sense of hybrids", is published in Consumer Reports' Annual April Auto Issue, which goes on sale beginning Tuesday, March 7. The Auto Issue will be available wherever magazines are sold and may also be ordered online at Consumer Reports Online. Free highlights from the April Auto Issue are available at Consumer Reports highlights.

The rising price of gasoline and concern over U.S. dependence on oil have generated a lot of interest in hybrids, and with good reason. They typically deliver the best fuel economy in their classes. The most fuel-efficient models can save the consumer about $660 in gasoline costs. Hybrids also emit less pollution. Each gallon of gasoline not burned prevents the emission of 19 pounds of carbon dioxide, which many believe contributes to global warming. In some states, hybrid owners can even use special carpool lanes regardless of the number of occupants in the vehicle.

These benefits add up to an inviting package for many car buyers who are willing to pay a premium for a hybrid. But for those who are considering buying a hybrid for purely financial reasons, the figures just don't add up.

Estimating the Total Ownership Costs

To estimate the various overall ownership costs of hybrids, Consumer Reports picked six current models that it had previously tested and totaled their major costs and savings over the first five years, the longest period for which reliable data on all the cost components are available. Five years is also a typical period of car ownership. CR did the same thing for each model's closest conventional, gasoline-powered equivalent and then compared the two. (For its investigation, Consumer Reports assumed that all the vehicles were purchased in California, the leading market for hybrid sales.)

Consumer Reports factored the following into its calculations: the purchase price premiums for hybrids, the difference in sales tax, savings from hybrid federal tax credits, fuel savings from hybrids at the pump, the extra cost or savings in insurance premiums for hybrids, the extra maintenance cost or savings from hybrids, the extra depreciation cost, and extra financing cost.
After factoring in federal tax credits and fuel savings that are based on gas prices rising to $3 and then to $4 a gallon, CR's calculations show that the most cost-effective hybrids, the Honda Civic Hybrid and Toyota Prius, still cost $3,700 and $5,250 more than their all-gas peers (the Civic EX sedan and Corolla LE sedan, respectively) after five years.

Models with the highest cost difference -- the Honda Accord Hybrid, Lexus RX400h, and Toyota Highlander Hybrid Limited-ranged from $10,250 to $13,300 more.

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Re: C/R Real Cost of Owning a Gas/Electric Hybrid Vehicle

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Consumer Reports Sizes Up the Real Costs of Owning a Gas/Electric Hybrid Vehicle:
3/1/2006 6:03:00 PM

YONKERS, N.Y., March 1 /U.S. Newswire/ -- For consumers who believe that gas/electric hybrid vehicles will save them money, the picture hasn't been so clear. Hybrid vehicles are more fuel efficient and produce lower emissions than conventional gasoline- only vehicles. Most current models of hybrids also score well in Consumer Reports' testing and are highly rated in CR's annual reliability and owner satisfaction surveys.

http://releases.usnewswire.com/GetRelease.asp?id=61721

Terry
HOG WASH!!!!

They use the land of fruits and nuts to do the calc's with.
If I had bought a HCHII insted of my EX in Okiehoma Number would look like this.

My 06 Civic EX, 5mt, w/Navi, $19,128.00. Includes Dest. and $49.00 doc. fee.

My dealer does Base HCHII at $21,033.00. Includes dest.
Add $49.00 Doc. fee
Add $1,500.00 Navi
Total $22,582.00
Tax Gift 2,000.00
Total $20,582.00

That leaves us with a $1,454.00 Diff. in price. I for one think thats fare. And a very easy recovery given my mileage a year of 20k miles to 30k miles. Many are saying poor psy didnt get the hybrid. I didnt get it for my own reasons. None of which are in the relam of those crack pipe smoking fools that say they wont recover there cost. The numbers should have atleast been compiled off msrp prices. Not what the fools pay on the west coast to get a ugly HOV sticker.

I turned in a 39.9 mpg tank today in my EX. If that had been a HCHII tank somewhere around 45 mpg I would guess. Thats a good savings. And then couple in the fact that unleaded reg. went up .12 cents over night it looks even better.

Would this little bit of math spur me into going out and unloading my 05 Accord EX I4 or the 06 Civic EX? Nope!! I just hate it when fuzzy math gets thrown around sooooo much. then couple that with the fact that most folks dont drive anywhere close to right 10% of the time it all becomes so misleading.
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Hi all,

I look for this article to bring out many-many different points of view.

Terry
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