User Name Password    
CleanMPG, Learn to raise fuel economy and lower emissions in whatever you drive.  
MENU
• What is hypermiling? •
CleanMPG to AAA:
• Hypermiling Rebuttal •
 
• Home
• CleanMPG Staff
• Articles
• Fuel Economy Forums
      • Register
Go Hypermiling!

   Car Reviews:

2013 Elantra GT

2013 Elantra Coupe

2013 Lexus ES 300h

2013 Mazda CX-5


2013 Lexus GS 450h

2012 Prius c

2013 Malibu Eco

2012 Hyundai Accent
   Bike and Gear Reviews:

HTC Thunderbolt

2010 R 1200 GS (A)

Kawasaki KLX250SF

Zero S


Aerostich Darien

Shoei Hornet DS

Honda CRF230L

Yamaha XT250


• More Reviews
• Gallery
• Mileage Logs
 
• CleanMPG Store
 
• Calendar
• Glossary
• Garage
• Files
 
• Research
• Related Sites
 
• Archives
• Arcade
 
• Monthly Fuel Efficient •
Vehicle Sales Figures


ScanGauge with X-Gauge: $159.95

Pre-programming, a CleanMPG laser cut decal, and shipping included!



Even better value for members only is available in the latest SG-II w/ X-Gauge Group Buy purchase thread.



While we strive to provide only the highest quality information through our members' offerings, if you find the information provided valuable, please consider a donation so that we can offer an even better experience for the membership and guests well into the future.

Thank you

-Wayne Gerdes
Owner/Admin
CleanMPG



Home Fuel Economy Forums Gallery Mileage Logs

Register FAQ Members List Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read


Go Back   CleanMPG Forums » Conventional Automobile Owners Community » Volkswagen


Volkswagen Volkswagen Safe Happens - Discussion about VW and VW automobiles.

Welcome to the CleanMPG forums.

Some posts may describe situations which may in some cases be unsafe or illegal in some jurisdictions. Please use common sense and consult your local laws to make sure you do not hurt yourself or others or break any laws.

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view discussions, articles and access our other features. By joining our community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload your own photos and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact contact support.

New VW Jetta Diesel Tops Prius in Fuel-Economy Marathon Test

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1   Submit to Clesto Submit to Digg Submit to Reddit Submit to Furl Submit to Del.icio.us Submit to Spurl
Old 09-24-2008, 09:19 PM
xcel's Avatar
xcel xcel is online now
PZEV, there's nothing like it :)
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Vehicles: Accord, Ranger, and anything else ;)
Location: Northern Illinois
Posts: 42,682
New VW Jetta Diesel Tops Prius in Fuel-Economy Marathon Test

The just-released 2009 Volskwagen Jetta TDi diesel against the uber-popular 2008 Toyota Prius hybrid.

http://www.cleanmpg.com/photos/data/501/2009_JettaTDI.jpg
Ben Stewart – Popular Mechanics – Sept. 24, 2008

2009 VW Jetta TDI w/ a stick – 30/41 city/highway on the 08 EPA.

I cannot speak for PM’s math but both are excellent fuel misers in my book -- Ed.

LOS ANGELES — As oil prices spiked over the summer, consumers had exactly one choice if they wanted to buy themselves a supercar in terms of fuel economy: the Toyota Prius. There were so few options in the marketplace that Ebay saw record numbers of used economy cars and hybrids flood its auction pages. But what about a brand-new clean diesel ride? We drove the Volkswagen Jetta TDi in Europe right after VW introduced it here last fall—at which point many expected this would-be Prius-beater to arrive Stateside in June. It didn't.

Well after a long season at the pump, VW unleashed the 2009 Jetta TDi on the United States last week. So we picked up our new diesel ride and decided to take it right into battle against its natural hybrid foe (before Toyota's 2009 model gives way to the 2010 plug-in hybrid Prius), to the tune of a two-day, 474-mile efficiency showdown.

Results (238 City Miles)
Prius: 44.7 mpg /// Jetta: 32 mpg …

Results (238 Highway Miles)
Jetta: 45.4 MPG /// Prius: 44.8 MPG… [Read More]

CleanMPG members found similar results in our cross country head to head with the Civic iCDTi and the Prius-II this past winter in the 1908 Centennial Reenactment of the Greatest Automobile Race-II
__________________
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
  #2   Submit to Clesto Submit to Digg Submit to Reddit Submit to Furl Submit to Del.icio.us Submit to Spurl
Old 09-24-2008, 09:38 PM
Elixer Elixer is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Vehicles: 2004 Ford Focus LX
Location: Denver, CO
Posts: 601
Re: New VW Jetta Diesel Tops Prius in Fuel-Economy Marathon Test

The Jetta is definitely a car for those who want to avoid all of the Prius' stigma associated with it, but still get great mpg. So much hypermiling ability with German engineering to boot. That VW is pretty much my ideal dream car right now.
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #3   Submit to Clesto Submit to Digg Submit to Reddit Submit to Furl Submit to Del.icio.us Submit to Spurl
Old 09-24-2008, 09:53 PM
jkp1187's Avatar
jkp1187 jkp1187 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Vehicles: Ides of March, 1970
Location: Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania
Posts: 744
Re: New VW Jetta Diesel Tops Prius in Fuel-Economy Marathon Test

On the highway, I guess. Prius is still the champ in the city. I suppose they were just looking for an attention-grabbing headline?
Reply With Quote
  #4   Submit to Clesto Submit to Digg Submit to Reddit Submit to Furl Submit to Del.icio.us Submit to Spurl
Old 09-24-2008, 10:05 PM
aca2983 aca2983 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2007
Vehicles: 2000 Protege ES
Location: Alexandria VA
Posts: 979
Re: New VW Jetta Diesel Tops Prius in Fuel-Economy Marathon Test

I don't think "German engineering" is all its cracked up to be, but in any case the Jetta is definitely much more of a driver's car, and VW does nice interiors, with good ergonomics, and gauges and instruments in the places were they should be.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Elixer View Post
The Jetta is definitely a car for those who want to avoid all of the Prius' stigma associated with it, but still get great mpg. So much hypermiling ability with German engineering to boot. That VW is pretty much my ideal dream car right now.
__________________


I still miss my 83 Civic.
Reply With Quote
  #5   Submit to Clesto Submit to Digg Submit to Reddit Submit to Furl Submit to Del.icio.us Submit to Spurl
Old 09-24-2008, 10:20 PM
Vooch Vooch is offline
Veteran
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Vehicles: Volkswagen Passat Wagon 2.OT - Auto - 2007
Location: Upper West Side - NYC
Posts: 1,010
Re: New VW Jetta Diesel Tops Prius in Fuel-Economy Marathon Test

Good to see 2 solid choices in the well equipped family sized (106 inch wheelbase) cars with decent MPG.

Hope we get many more choices





Note - The Jetta comes in a Station Wagon model - which has a significant amount of cargo carrying capacity
Reply With Quote
  #6   Submit to Clesto Submit to Digg Submit to Reddit Submit to Furl Submit to Del.icio.us Submit to Spurl
Old 09-24-2008, 10:28 PM
Xringer's Avatar
Xringer Xringer is offline
Older Member
 
Join Date: May 2008
Vehicles: 2009 Ford Escape & 2012 Toyota Prius c2
Location: Woburn Mass
Posts: 781
Re: New VW Jetta Diesel Tops Prius in Fuel-Economy Marathon Test

85% of my trips are in the city. Even when I do more than average highway travel,
every time I look at my scanguage or trip data on the GPS,
it always surprises me to see my average speeds are so low..

And, who knows what's going to happen to the price of diesel..?.

I've heard of more than a few Lemon-Law cases with VWs.
Never heard of a single one with Corolla...
__________________
Cheers,
Rich

2.5L with a 6 speed AT? The lazy man's Hypermiling SUV!

Wife's Pizza Transporter
Reply With Quote
  #7   Submit to Clesto Submit to Digg Submit to Reddit Submit to Furl Submit to Del.icio.us Submit to Spurl
Old 09-24-2008, 10:43 PM
bnther bnther is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 301
Re: New VW Jetta Diesel Tops Prius in Fuel-Economy Marathon Test

I think that it's great what VW is doing, but I don't see this particular car as being on the same level as the Prius.
1) I think that the mileage figures they achieved are a little low for the typical Prius driver.
2) Diesel fuel is more expensive.
3) PHEV's are just around the corner; I don't know that diesels have the same future potential.

My2cents
Reply With Quote
  #8   Submit to Clesto Submit to Digg Submit to Reddit Submit to Furl Submit to Del.icio.us Submit to Spurl
Old 09-25-2008, 08:17 PM
MissileStick MissileStick is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 38
Re: New VW Jetta Diesel Tops Prius in Fuel-Economy Marathon Test

Quote:
Originally Posted by bnther View Post
3) PHEV's are just around the corner; I don't know that diesels have the same future potential.
Why can't we have both? People act like diesel is this exotic technology. My mom has driven diesel VWs for as long as I can remember, so it's nothing special to me. Great torque, excellent thermodynamic efficiency, and they're built like a tank.

Diesel APUs are definitely the way to go for PHEVs, in my opinion. With direct rail injection and turbocharging, we should see mileage in the 90s with a decently efficient body.
Reply With Quote
  #9   Submit to Clesto Submit to Digg Submit to Reddit Submit to Furl Submit to Del.icio.us Submit to Spurl
Old 09-25-2008, 09:05 PM
xcel's Avatar
xcel xcel is online now
PZEV, there's nothing like it :)
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Vehicles: Accord, Ranger, and anything else ;)
Location: Northern Illinois
Posts: 42,682
Re: New VW Jetta Diesel Tops Prius in Fuel-Economy Marathon Test

Hi Misslestick:

___Most here would love to drive a performance diesel over a Prius or HCH-II! If it was the 5-door Honda Civic iCDTi that is They all have their place but a diesels 30% better thermodynamics with similar performance (the iCDTi bests the Prius-II and HCH-II in all aspects) is tough to beat…

___Good Luck

___Wayne
__________________
Reply With Quote
Reply




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
CleanMPG Reviews the 2007 Honda Civic 2.2L iCDTi Turbo Diesel xcel Reviews 31 07-21-2011 12:57 PM
Chicago to NY in a Prius on one tank of fuel? xcel Articles 11 03-08-2011 10:35 AM
Germans want 2007 to be the Year Of The Diesel in America. xcel In the News 8 05-10-2008 11:16 PM
Chrysler announces plan to boost fuel efficiency. xcel Chrysler 8 06-23-2007 04:57 PM
The Truth About Fuel Economy Ratings. xcel In the News 3 03-10-2006 03:44 PM



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:05 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2013, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2006 - 2013, Clean MPG LLC. All Rights Reserved.