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REVIEW: Hymotion Battery Plug-In Prius

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Old 09-17-2008, 08:32 AM
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Re: REVIEW: Hymotion Battery Plug-In Prius

Well I started out to work today a received my lowest mileage yet. About 65MPG. The reason for this low mileage was because my pack did not turn on. The LED just flashed at me indicating an error.

After sending Erin an email she forwarded it to Jim the tech. He said I need to count the flashes. Apparently the flashes are like computer beep codes so if anyone has a problem with their Hymotion battery be sure to count the flashes. There should quick flashes with a long flash in between.

Of course when I went outside to count the flashes the battery worked just fine and had a full charge. So as of right now I'm fine and I have no idea on what the problem may have been.

I'm going to try to EV it all the way home to try to make up for the wasted gas this morning.
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Re: REVIEW: Hymotion Battery Plug-In Prius

OK so here is my 1000 mile update.

I have 1000 miles on this tank so far and everything is going OK. The CAN-view is showing %40 left in the gas tank and 182MPG. The Scan Gauge is showing 159MPG for the tank.

The only issues I have are with the AUX battery. I accidentally drained it one day with the car in AAC mode and now I think its damaged. Normally I can run my car PC for 10-15 minutes in AAC with no problems but now just running it 5 minutes drops the voltage well below 11v. I found the car wont start if the voltage is below 10v but will start if its at 10.5v or so. So now I have a Optima yellow top battery on order for a replacement. I was planning on getting one next summer but since I damaged my stock battery I figure I better replace it before it gets too cold out. I'll have a small SLA in the trunk to use as a jump battery in case I need to use it while I'm waiting on the Optima to get here.

I don't think I will reach my 1400 mile goal because I took last week off and I'm taking next week off to. I don't plan to do much driving during my time off. So I guess my next update with be on October 12th sometime or even the 13th. It just depends on when I get back from Cincinnati.






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Re: REVIEW: Hymotion Battery Plug-In Prius

Jay, I don't understand your consumption screen... are there regen cars there in the empty consumption bars from the Hymotion battery dumping charge into the stock battery?
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Jay, I don't understand your consumption screen... are there regen cars there in the empty consumption bars from the Hymotion battery dumping charge into the stock battery?
No those are from normal braking I think. I might try to do some tests to see if the cars do appear if the Hymotion pack charges the stock pack.
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Ah... DFCO coasting I assume? I had jumped to the conclusion that you were not moving...
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Whenever you use no gas you get a blank bar when moving or not. In my case I was moving in EV mode.
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Re: REVIEW: Hymotion Battery Plug-In Prius

My understanding is that the Hymo pack is depletion-only, i.e.
doesn't pick up any regen. Do you know what they use to meter
charge into the Prius system? Do they use a proper regulator
in between the packs, as opposed to the klunky contactor-based
mechanism of some of the other conversion kits?
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Re: REVIEW: Hymotion Battery Plug-In Prius

Here is a little update on the difference between the SG average and CAN-view average. Since my CV lost power for some reason it reset the trip to my last save point which was at around 500 miles into the tank. So what I have been doing the past few days is to reset the trip info on the CV and compare it with the trip MPG on the SG.

What I have found was that on my first trip to work the SG reported about 180MPG and the CV reported 255MPG. 255 is the max the CV can display and could mean 0 gas used or greater than 255MPG. In this case its greater than 255 apparently. On my way home the SG reported 150MPG and the CV reported 220MPG. These numbers were consistent the past few days.

If you were to take the miles driven so far which is 1100 miles and divide it by the percent of the gas used which is %60 you get about 18.333 miles per percent. If I ran my tank down to %0 I would expect to get about 1833 miles on a tank. If that tank was a 10 gallon fill up then my average would be 183MPG which is pretty much spot on to my last CV reading. If it took 11 gallons my average would be 167MPG and is more close to the SG.

Based on what I have seen so far I think the CAN-view will be a lot more accurate for a running average but I'm not sure on which would be more accurate on a trip by trip calculation.


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My understanding is that the Hymo pack is depletion-only, i.e.
doesn't pick up any regen. Do you know what they use to meter
charge into the Prius system? Do they use a proper regulator
in between the packs, as opposed to the klunky contactor-based
mechanism of some of the other conversion kits?
.
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The Hymotion pack is depletion only. It will not accept any regen. I have no clue on what they use to to monitor that information. I would guess the stock prius system still controlls what goes in to the stock battery. I hope that someone with a lot of money tears this Hymotion pack apart to see what all is in there. I would do it but I don't want to risk losing the warranty. Maybe I will in 3 years.

I have been keeping my eye on the SOC gauge on my CAN-view and I notice that when the pack is ON and your accelerating or coasting the sock will be high like in the 75-80 range. When you apply the brake or your at a stop the Hymotion SOC drops back to the stock battery SOC.
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Re: REVIEW: Hymotion Battery Plug-In Prius

Aha, I have one more piece of information. I finally unraveled
enough of the mess Picasa hands you for an album and pulled all
of seftonm's Hybridfest pictures; there's one close-up of the
Hymo L5 label. Nominal voltage 188, 25 amp-hours. So if that's
true then they must be using a boost converter of some sort to
feed into the Prius system at 220V or so.
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I wanna see one of these suckers opened up someday...
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Re: REVIEW: Hymotion Battery Plug-In Prius

I just got my Hymotion welcome package today. Here is what it includes.

Inside the envelope there is an updated instruction manual, a quick start guide thay looks like it can hang on your rear view mirror, a square 100+MPG sticker that looks like it will fit on the gas door, a Hymotion window sticker, an oval PHEV sticker and a Hymotion logo "H" keyring.





I have scanned in and uploaded the new manual. This is reversion 03.
http://stuff.jaygroh.com/priuschat/b...uide%20V03.pdf


All this information will also be posted in my first post when I finalize everything.
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