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Old 07-15-2008, 06:18 PM
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Upcoming Audi Q5

Some high tech efficiency upgrades that may surprise you.

http://www.cleanmpg.com/photos/data/501/Audi_Q5_Sports_Car_Crossover.jpg
Wayne Gerdes - CleanMPG - July 15, 2008

The Audi Q5’s best side… Just a tease but read on.

Audi Q5, a Sports car like small SUV that combines decent performance with reasonably low fuel consumption. From energy recuperation to engine downsizing, Audi is attempting to take fuel costs to heart albeit it in an SUV/Sports car sort of way.

The new Q5 arrives with three small, powerful and state of the art engines -- the FSI gasoline and (2) diesel TDI’s that are direct-injected and turbo equipped.

The new 2.0 TFSI is an object lesson in efficiency. This four-cylinder engine develops 211 HP and 258 lb-ft of torque yet its fuel consumption averages 27.7 mpgUS combined on the New European Drive Cycle (NEDC) tests.

The 2.0L FSI still uses Audi’s valvelift system (AVS) which regulates the valve lift in two distinct stages. One boosts torque while the other improves fuel efficiency by as much as five percent.

The TDI – the most successful efficiency technology in the world

The (2) TDI engines available in the new Q5 fit follow Audi's downsizing strategy. The four-cylinder 2.0L TDI develops 170 HP and 258 lb-ft of torque while achieving 35.1 mpgUS combined. The larger six-cylinder 3.0L TDI, a V6 achieves 240 HP and 369 lb-ft of torque. Its average fuel consumption is rated at a respectable 31.36 mpgUS.

The high torque values at low revs of the TDI’s have allowed higher transmission ratios without undermining drivability. Peak torque is achieved at a very early point on all engines in the Audi Q5 – the 2.0 TFSI reaches peak at just 1,500 rpm, barely above idle speed.

Finding fuel efficiency in other places

Audi uses a number of new technologies referred to as the "modular efficiency platform".

Instead of moving towards to the latest rave, that being an all-electric power steering system, a new vane pump in the hydraulic unit delivers only as much oil and boost as is necessary at any given operating point.

The automatic air conditioning's cooling systems oil pump is regulated by the volumetric flow and therefore always operates on demand.

Systematic fine-tuning of all metal to metal contact points within the engines themselves has reduced the internal friction of all engines.

Engine coolant temperature management is another new technology. Part of the coolant loop is isolated during the warm-up phase, helping the engine reach its operating temperature faster which boosts efficiency.

The Audi Q5 2.0 TFSI, which comes with a six-speed manual transmission as standard, features a shift indicator that recommends the most economical gear to the driver.

The new, refined navigation system promotes efficient driving by calculating the most fuel-efficient route.

Micro mild hybridization at work

All versions of the Q5 recover energy while coasting during braking and freewheeling. While still in motion but coasting down, the alternator is able to convert some of the excess kinetic energy normally lost in braking action into electrical energy that is stored in the battery. The battery releases the energy through the alternator when accelerating, reducing the engine's workload.

DSG or the dual clutch transmission for the masses

Audi fits the new Q5 with the seven-speed S-tronic state-of-the-art dual-clutch transmission. With its lightning-fast, ultra-convenient broad spread of ratios from the lowest to the highest gear, the seven-speed dual-clutch transmission is the most efficient transmission technology available anywhere.

Low rolling resistance tires without compromise

The Audi Q5 also redefines the benchmark for handling. The new reduced rolling resistance are virtually indistinguishable from conventional tires when it comes to lateral stability and stopping distance, but significantly reduce rolling resistance and therefore fuel consumption.

Aerodynamic enhancements

The basic version of the new Audi Q5 achieves a drag coefficient of 0.33 – the best in its field of competitors. This is due not only to its basic aerodynamic form but also to technical features such as the underbody panel. The frontal area measures just 28.52 ft2 owing to the relatively low body; this, too, promotes a favorable airflow around the car. Although scarcely noticeable in the fuel consumption figures on the test rig, it has an effect when driving down the freeway.

And the tease…

The engines and many of the fuel efficiency design improvements discussed are only for the European’s. Here in the US, we will be receiving a 265 HP - 3.2L FSI which may have a 0 to 60 time of under 8 seconds but a fuel economy rating more along the lines of everything else in its class. That being approximately 20 mpg combined

Let us all hope the new 3.0 TDI equipped Q5 will make it into US showrooms soon after the 3.2L FSI becomes available which is currently scheduled for the spring of 2009.
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Europe only, that just makes me sick.
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Well, why in the hell bring the junk over here if we can not get the good MPGs? Do us all a favor and keep the junk outta here and bring on the good stuff.
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Re: Upcoming Audi Q5



I guess you have not even heard about the Audi A2 that was in production some years ago. Made of aluminium, with a 1.2 l TDI engine, getting 3.0 L/100 km (78 mpg–U.S. / 94 mpg–imp)

I guess they learned a lot making that car, that they now use for making SUV's like that Q5.
(Europeans call SUV's what you call crossovers

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Hi Shrek:

___We have heard of the A2 quite a few times The last manufacture was in 05 or 06, right? I would be glad to see the A3 over here with the Audi/VW 2.0 in it but of course the powers that be would have nothing to do with a compact using a world renown super diesel and receiving better FE than anything on the road other than a Prius-II or HCH-II

___As for Crossovers, they are seeing the hard times here in the US as the FE is not that much above the SUV. Sales have fallen off precipitously just as SUV sales have. This is some pretty bad timing wrt releasing the Q5 here in the US in fact.

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this is a bit offtopic, but im kinda peeved at nissan for selling their rogue crossover as a fuel efficient vehicle. the combined mpg is about 25, and for a car with a 2.5L engine, that is BS. im just venting, you dont have to reply. i wish we had all the awsome euro cars on this side of the pond tho.
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Automakers think we want, bigger, heavier, more powerful vehicles. That was true a few years ago for most people, but not anymore. They still haven't fully caught on that they need to market to the US just like any other country that's had years of high fuel prices.
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I really dislike the "crossover" moniker, since lots of SUVs have always been built on car chassis. But people are slowly realizing that a crossover is usually just a raised-up wagon with some different body styling. The few wagons that are still around are probably going to be hot sellers.

Heh, but the whole debate about names for SUVs reminds me than many people in the U.K. call them "4x4s" -- even though lots of SUVs don't have four-wheel-drive.
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WOW, I'm impressed with this Audi thing. Audi cars never really did anything for me in the past, they just didn't seem too exciting. But now they've come up with some really good improvements that are exciting. Cool! So, how do we get these on a boat to America?

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Hi F&T:

___Jud saw one of the 3.0L TDI equipped Q5’s in San Francisco last week along with a 3.0L TDI equipped A4 and a FSP Q7, also equipped with a 3.0L TDI. All were heading across America for a pre-US Mileage Marathon photo shoot.

Audi Mileage Marathon?

___The problem? We will not be receiving the 3.0L TDI in the Q5 for some time according to Audi’s US site They are only posting that we will receive the 3.2L FSI… Worth all of 20 mpg if we are lucky

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