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___This is not just putting all your eggs I one basket but putting them all in the wrong one basket before there was even half a chance at recuperating some of these $’s!

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It sounds like you've never worked for a floundering company with multiple leadership crises. I doubt that Chrysler has had a consistent internal plan for executing strategy while Daimler/Cerberus/US Gov/Fiat re-arranged leadership and strategies pretty much constantly over the last decade or so. It probably has been several years since Chrysler's leadership knew how many eggs it had or where there was a basket it could put them in.

At this point I think that the products Chrysler brings out probably mainly reflects which projects had the leaders that were most able to adjust to shifting internal politics.
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Re: Chrysler begins building new V6

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___It is more of a problem, with building a V6 in an era when a small I4 is probably too big already. How did the lead people at Chrysler/Daimler/Cerebus even consider approving the build given the complete waste for this particular engine plant???

___This is not just putting all your eggs I one basket but putting them all in the wrong one basket before there was even half a chance at recuperating some of these $’s!

___Good Luck

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Wayne,
First of all, a new engine takes several years to engineer and get ready for production(on average). So this engine was in the works before Chrysler was in it's current position. In addition, whether you or i like it or not, people are going to continue buying some large vehicles and trucks for the foreseeable future. These vehicles cannot realistically be powered by a 4 cylinder or smaller engine.
I think where Chrysler went wrong, at least concerning engines, is not spending the time and money on a 2, 3, and 4 cylinder engine that advances the state of the art. Like i said, the GEMA series is not a bad engine, but it's also not anything great. Mediocre in all aspects. Mediocre does not win new customers. Fiat has obviously done some great things with small displacement engines. Without Fiat, Chrysler wouldn't have stood a snowballs chance in hell of being able to meet the upcoming CAFE standards. Even with Fit, it is questionable. Time will tell.
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Re: Chrysler begins building new V6

If you don't offer engines competitive in all segments, then you're pretty much losing potential market share.

This is much better than the V8 plans GM has. Ford also has their V6 and V8 engines in production. This Pentastar engine from Chrysler has been in the works for a long time...a VERY long time. I started reading about it a few years ago.

Fiat has the technology for better 4 cylinder like Blackbelt said, so I think what they're doing is putting themselves in a position to excel in all aspects and gain market share. Even with their 280hp V6 however, they still pale in comparison to the 304HP V6 mustang and 305hp V6 camaro. All of which pale in comparison the 2.0 turbo Genesis with 304hp I believe. Now, who knows chrysler's capability of coming out with a 2.0 turbo? They do what they know. I just hope they expand their knowledge a bit.
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