User Name Password    
CleanMPG, Learn to raise fuel economy and lower emissions in whatever you drive.  
MENU
• What is hypermiling? •
CleanMPG to AAA:
• Hypermiling Rebuttal •
 
• Home
• CleanMPG Staff
• Articles
• Fuel Economy Forums
      • Register
Go Hypermiling!

   Car Reviews:

2013 Elantra GT

2013 Elantra Coupe

2013 Lexus ES 300h

2013 Mazda CX-5


2013 Lexus GS 450h

2012 Prius c

2013 Malibu Eco

2012 Hyundai Accent
   Bike and Gear Reviews:

HTC Thunderbolt

2010 R 1200 GS (A)

Kawasaki KLX250SF

Zero S


Aerostich Darien

Shoei Hornet DS

Honda CRF230L

Yamaha XT250


• More Reviews
• Gallery
• Mileage Logs
 
• CleanMPG Store
 
• Calendar
• Glossary
• Garage
• Files
 
• Research
• Related Sites
 
• Archives
• Arcade
 
• Monthly Fuel Efficient •
Vehicle Sales Figures


ScanGauge with X-Gauge: $159.95

Pre-programming, a CleanMPG laser cut decal, and shipping included!



Even better value for members only is available in the latest SG-II w/ X-Gauge Group Buy purchase thread.



While we strive to provide only the highest quality information through our members' offerings, if you find the information provided valuable, please consider a donation so that we can offer an even better experience for the membership and guests well into the future.

Thank you

-Wayne Gerdes
Owner/Admin
CleanMPG



Home Fuel Economy Forums Gallery Mileage Logs

FAQ Members List Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read


Go Back   CleanMPG Forums » Information » In the News


In the News News items that may be of interest. These show up on the front page.
Only Moderators may start threads, but anyone can respond to them.

Welcome to the CleanMPG forums.

Some posts may describe situations which may in some cases be unsafe or illegal in some jurisdictions. Please use common sense and consult your local laws to make sure you do not hurt yourself or others or break any laws.

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view discussions, articles and access our other features. By joining our community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload your own photos and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact contact support.

Biggest pickups won't be on CAFE menu.

Tags: , , , ,

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1   Submit to Clesto Submit to Digg Submit to Reddit Submit to Furl Submit to Del.icio.us Submit to Spurl
Old 03-27-2006, 12:29 PM
xcel's Avatar
xcel xcel is online now
PZEV, there's nothing like it :)
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Vehicles: Accord, Ranger, and anything else ;)
Location: Northern Illinois
Posts: 42,682
Biggest pickups won't be on CAFE menu.

U.S. carmakers will get break in new fuel rules

Harry Stoffer - Automotive News - March 27, 2006



WASHINGTON -- Heavy-duty pickups are eluding government bureaucrats once again.

Bush administration officials, putting final touches on new light-truck fuel economy rules for 2008-11, reportedly have considered extending standards to the largest light trucks. They have gross weights above 8,500 pounds.

But pickups in that range -- regarded as favorites of tradesmen, farmers and cowboys -- would continue to be exempt, say interest groups monitoring the deliberations over the rules.

So, for example, the largest Chevrolet Suburban SUV would have to meet a standard for the first time, but a Silverado 2500 or 3500 pickup would remain exempt.

Such a decision is based on "false logic," argues Eric Haxthausen, economist with Environmental Defense. The nonprofit group says it favors science-based, cost-effective fixes for environmental problems.

Environmental Defense says a survey conducted for it by a market research firm showed heavy-duty pickups no longer are just work trucks. Researchers queried primary drivers of 300 late-model pickups of various sizes.

Refining the fuel rules
Bush administration officials have considered these changes to fuel economy regulations for 2008-11, say interest groups monitoring the deliberations.
  • Requiring light trucks to average more than 24 mpg by 2011
  • Extending fuel economy standards to some trucks over 8,500 pounds
  • Setting a fuel-economy target for each model based on its dimensions
Among the findings: Heavy-duty pickups are used primarily as passenger vehicles, for commuting and family activities.

Eighty percent of the vehicles in the 8,500 to 10,000-pound range are pickups, Haxthausen added. So extending the standards without including pickups would miss a big energy-saving opportunity, he argued.

Defenders of heavy-duty pickups say they need extra power -- and the resulting extra fuel consumption -- to do their jobs.

The administration faces a Saturday, April 1, deadline for unveiling the final rules.

Automakers, who view fuel-economy standards as their biggest regulatory headache, already know it's going to be a bit more painful and a lot more complicated.

The administration plans for the first time to set different targets for light trucks of different sizes, based on dimensions rather than weight.

As a result, each automaker by 2011 would have its own unique fuel-economy standard, determined by product mix. Companies with more small vehicles would have higher standards than those with more big vehicles.

The move is a break for General Motors, Ford Motor Co. and the Chrysler group, which rely more on larger light trucks for sales and profits than import brands.

Overall, the administration is expected to seek a light-truck fleet average of slightly more than 24 mpg by 2011, up from 21.6 mpg for 2006 and 22.2 mpg for 2007. The car average stays at 27.5 mpg.

The addition of a size factor would be the biggest structural change in the Corporate Average Fuel Economy program since its inception in 1975.
__________________
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
  #2   Submit to Clesto Submit to Digg Submit to Reddit Submit to Furl Submit to Del.icio.us Submit to Spurl
Old 03-27-2006, 12:53 PM
Chuck Chuck is offline
just the messenger
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Vehicles: 2000 Honda Enzyte 5-speed MIMA, CalPod, SGII
Location: Greater Dallas
Posts: 22,878
Looking at The Road, You Would Think Everybody Needs Them - Right

I need to bookmark the articles that state facts such as...
  • New vehicle saves in 1990 were 5% SUV - 55% in 2003
  • The most popular vehicle is now the pickup truck
  • SUVs/trucks are at least 45% of what Americans drive
The desire for these vehicles has swelled in recent years. Notice I did not say need. Yes, some are put to use. I just see a lot of "urban cowboys" commuting in them that have no practile need for them. How do you differenate between them and someone working in construction? I'd like for a lawmaker to find a way.

Someone that used I used to work with enjoyed nearly running over me in a parking lot with his diesel F350. He works in IT and I'm sure he needs to haul the gigabytes in it - right.
__________________
All is vanity
Reply With Quote
  #3   Submit to Clesto Submit to Digg Submit to Reddit Submit to Furl Submit to Del.icio.us Submit to Spurl
Old 03-27-2006, 01:23 PM
tbaleno tbaleno is offline
Veteran
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Vehicles: 03' Honda Civic Hybrid
Location: Chicago
Posts: 2,718
Re: Biggest pickups won't be on CAFE menu.

I kind of think the larger pickups should be exempt. Sure, a few of them get used by the general public to look cool, but most of them are actualy used for buisnesses. I can only imagine the car makers using the excuse that they have to meet new standards to raise the price of these vehicles and possibly hurting buisness.
Reply With Quote
  #4   Submit to Clesto Submit to Digg Submit to Reddit Submit to Furl Submit to Del.icio.us Submit to Spurl
Old 03-27-2006, 03:33 PM
philmcneal's Avatar
philmcneal philmcneal is offline
Veteran
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Vehicles: 2004 Prius Hatchback
Location: Surrey B.C
Posts: 1,410
Re: Biggest pickups won't be on CAFE menu.

ya show the papers that you need the truck or get taxed... can't it be as simple as that?
__________________
probably the highest mpg for the highest average speed hypermiler
04 civic 5spd > prius 03 > prius 04 > bmw 318is > vw 2009 tdi dsg > 2007 Q7 V8 > 2012 Evoque Range Rover> back to prius 04 with 250k on the odo getting 45 mpg+ while driving 80 mph
Reply With Quote
Reply




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Lawsuit attacks new Light Truck CAFE rules. xcel In the News 3 04-09-2006 09:32 PM



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:44 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2013, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2006 - 2013, Clean MPG LLC. All Rights Reserved.