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Old 08-17-2012, 03:20 PM
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Re: Let's rip off this band-aid!

I snapped a few more pics. Obviously, I have to showcase the cargo area:



The length of the cargo area is the main reason I went with a true wagon instead of a CUV. That load floor is 43.5" deep (seatback to closed hatch) and 44.5" wide between the wheel arches. Go head, find me a dog that couldn't get comfortable back there.

I really like the way the driver's area is laid out.



They did an awesome job with the controls. Everything is completely intuitive, and everything on the floating center stack can be found by touch. It is a nice change from the menu-driven controls of a Prius, which I had to look at to use. Basic radio and bluetooth controls are duplicated on the steering wheel. This car also has a standard a- and i-fcd with DTE and average speed readouts. And yes, that's a push-button start instead of a key. I could take or leave that, but it's fine. I don't have any plans to FAS this thing.

The devil's work:



That's a B6324s, producing 235 bhp and 236 lb-ft. Amazingly, some reviewers still whine about this engine and tell you that it "needs" the 300hp turbocharged version. Right. The previous 2.5L 5-cylinder turbo was a great engine and would have been perfectly adequate. It went away because they moved the V70 from the midsize S60 platform to the larger S80 platform, and it comes with 6 cylinder engines. In any event, Volvo/Ford did some clever arranging to make it fit transversely in the bay. The timing chain and accessory drive are all on the back (driver's side) above the transmission. The alternator is driven by a shaft and tucked under the intake manifold. Boy, can't I just wait for any of those systems to need maintenance. Fortunately this engine has been out since '07 with hardly any known issues (other than the oil seal described in the next paragraph) so my odds should be OK. All this drives the wheels through the 6 speed transmission sourced from Aisin Warner. Oh, and it runs fine on regular gas. Volvo finally realized how much people hate filling with premium (though they say the engine performs better on it).

Overall I think this car was a good find. It is just about to roll over 75,000mi, which is a lot for a 3.5 y/o car. It has a semi-known history because it was sold new by this same dealer to the sales manager's father, who lives in South Carolina and used it mainly to run up and down the I-95 corridor to visit family and whatnot. (Given the accent on the sales manager, I can't dispute the story.) It does have its fair share of minor scratches and chips, but it is in great overall shape. It even has a service booklet full of dealer stamps. I do need to give it a preemptive transmission fluid change ("lifetime" my eye) and I did have to take it back yesterday for a very minor oil leak. (The vacuum pump is camshaft driven and the O-rings have been failing left and right, resulting in a slow drip. Took 1/2 hour to fix under the compulsory 60 day warranty.) I also think there is some debris stuck in the cabin fan, which buzzes intermittently. Other than that it feels like a really solid machine. Fit & finish are confidence inspiring.
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Re: Let's rip off this band-aid!

Very nice. This what good ergonomics and form-follows-function looks like.
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Re: Let's rip off this band-aid!

I'm glad you're changing the transmission fluid and doing a transmission service. When I did my 960 at 66K it looked like nasty brown chocolate milk draining out and it smelled really bad. Don't forget to do all the fluids including the PS and fuel filter with 75K on the clock. Cheap insurance. My service manual also had all the dealer stamps and we found more than a few things that were suppose to be serviced but weren't.
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Re: Let's rip off this band-aid!

I think you just had to get a car to match your screen name again.
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Aisin makes some great automatic transmissions. The famous bulletproof automatic in the 4.0 powered Jeep Cherokees was an Aisin AW-4.
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Re: Let's rip off this band-aid!

Congratulations!

Nice looking machine!

Enjoy!!!
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Re: Let's rip off this band-aid!

Nice station wagon.

I spotted this guy while walking tonight.

1958 Chevy Brookwood 9 passenger.

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That looks a lot like a hearse..
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I ordered everything I need to do the transmission fluid, which amounts to a case of JWS 3309, a huge torx driver, and a huge hex driver. It would be nice if everything got here in time for the weekend but that might be a little optimistic. I also have to head back to the dealer tomorrow to have that pump replaced rather than just the o-ring. The tech said I should keep an eye on it just in case, and sure enough the leakage is just as bad as it was before. According to the internet Volvo gurus that was a predictable result. I'm just grateful that it's a simple fix. I needed to hit the parts counter for some crush washers, anyway.

I think it will take me a while to adapt to driving this beast. It is absolutely stunning on the highway. Given that it never wants to downshift I think the best strategy might be to just set the cruise at the PSL and let the miles wash past. That worked great in my Accord as well as the previous generation Volvo XC70 that my wife used to have. I haven't done enough highway driving yet to have any real idea where the ceiling is.

Driving in the city I have my work cut out for me. DWB...DWB...DWB...DWB. I'm currently holding at about 25mpg in mixed driving with an abnormal amount of light-to-light stop & crawl, but I'm not at the top of my game. The Prius was extremely forgiving of poor city driving habits. This is not! I'll work on it.

Interesting tidbit. Apparently Volvos from '01 through perhaps early '03 with the 5-speed A/T experienced an unusually high transaxle failure rate. The cause? In an attempt to boost FE, Volvo programmed the gearbox to drop into neutral at every possible opportunity rather than drag the ICE into fuel cut or force the driver to apply throttle. The failures were attributed to all that NICE-on wearing out something inside the box. New programming was introduced which did away with the automatic NICE-on and the problems went away. Hey, at least they tried. Mine definitely does not drop into neutral on its own. I suspect that even DFCO goes away as I drop through 30mph (or whatever RPM that corresponds to), as that seems to be a cutoff where engine braking falls off a cliff.
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Re: Let's rip off this band-aid!

My 98 Suburban has a trans that seems to do something like that-
lift at 35 mph- and ZERO engine braking until it downshifts(re-engages)about 24 mph.
Good thing because it needs every advantage in city driving.


25 mpg in city-sounds pretty decent-EPA city is 15-16 right?
It is a stout vehicle-maybe 4000lbs?? 25 mpg city pretty decent
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