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shadescape · #31 07-10-2012, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by herm

You use the oil soaked rags to start a fire, to burn your leaves, old tires etc.

that's good

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if he'd done very many oil changes on different vehicles he'd of found out many don't have oil filters perfectly located so as not to lose a drop

Mendel Leisk · #32 07-11-2012, 02:06 PM

If I'm "he", I've been changing oil since '81. Filters mounting on a vertical face and near the bottom seem most practical.

EdwinTheMagnificent · #33 07-11-2012, 05:29 PM

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If I'm "he", I've been changing oil since '81. Filters mounting on a vertical face and near the bottom seem most practical.

That's how it was on my 89 and two 97 Civics. Everything would drip nicely into the same pan ; from the oil pan drain hole and the back of the engine where the oil filter lived. Only drawback ? It was a SNUG fit to get my more-slender-than-average forearm to reach back under the FI manifold and grip the filter. Dunno how larger folks could even do it the same way.
On my 2008 Civic , I need to jack up one corner of the front end a bit , not even enough to lift a wheel off the ground, but just enough to let me reach under with my socket-type oil filter wrench. Everything drains beautifully. This reminds me......... my Maintenance Minder is telling 5% oil life. Better change oil this weekend.

Mendel Leisk · #34 07-11-2012, 07:01 PM

Honda positioned them very often that way: on vert. face and near bottom. And I'd always think how much better it would be if they were coming off the bottom. Figured they would unscrew and be like a cup of liquid.

Well that's true, except it's an overflowing cup. At least in my experience. (Must have been our HCHII with that underslung configuration) As soon as the gasket has a bit of gap, the oil starts coming out (even if you've drained the pan already), and you very quickly have oil dripping off your elbow (if you're lucky), or heading for your armpit.

Anyway, I started using oil filter pliers in that case: break it loose with a oil filter socket, then switch to the pliers during deluge.

TheStepChild · #35 07-11-2012, 07:42 PM

I kinda like the top filter mount. I've put on a fumoto valve, so its a real easy no tools under the car thing. Except the scion has a belly pan cover to remove to find the filter.

RedylC94 · #36 07-11-2012, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Mendel Leisk

Filters mounting on a vertical face and near the bottom seem most practical.

That's right. I would add that they also need to reachable from above, so you don't end up under the car with hot oil trickling down your arm. I can change oil and filter without getting under my car at all, except to position the drain pan. Same with my brother's old F-100 I-6.

2011accent · #37 07-11-2012, 08:30 PM

I had no want for a particular oil filter position until I ran over an armadillo in a Dodge Caravan. The armadillo crushed the oil filter, but I'm lucky that it didn't cause a leak.

some_other_dave · #38 07-11-2012, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Mendel Leisk

... I'd always think how much better it would be if they were coming off the bottom. Figured they would unscrew and be like a cup of liquid.

My 914 (my little FSP) is very like that; the back-flow valve in the filter (which is vertically mounted near the bottom of the engine) keeps most of the oil in the filter. Not quite all, of course, but very little oil comes out unless you tilt the filter to the side.

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herm · #39 07-12-2012, 05:13 AM

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Originally Posted by some_other_dave

My 914 (my little FSP) is very like that; the back-flow valve in the filter (which is vertically mounted near the bottom of the engine) keeps most of the oil in the filter.

Thats a good point and one of the reasons I use quality oil filters.. WIX all the way.