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CleanMPG Reviews the 2013 Mazda CX-5

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CleanMPG Reviews the 2013 Mazda CX-5
While the Crossover continues to improve, none have quite matched the CX-5's ability to save at the pump.
xcel
05-10-2012
  #90  
By 50 mpg by 2012 on 07-05-2012, 10:04 PM
Re: CleanMPG Reviews the 2013 Mazda CX-5

Any CX5 diesel user MPG experience data yet?
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By xcel on 07-05-2012, 10:33 PM
Re: CleanMPG Reviews the 2013 Mazda CX-5

Hi 50 mpg by 2012:

Not that I know of yet but like everyone else here, I cannot wait to see what that thing will bring to the table. I just know it is going to be so darn good

Wayne
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By 50 mpg by 2012 on 07-06-2012, 06:21 AM
Re: CleanMPG Reviews the 2013 Mazda CX-5

here is AutoCar's data

http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-review/mazda/cx-5/specs

I do NOT know whether the 2 Liter MT gasoline is SkyActiv or not ... but 47 mpg(Imp) combined is pretty impressive anyway.

For comparison the Mazda CX-5 FWD MT 2.2d SE-L 5dr Estate is rated 61 mpg(Imp) combined.
http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-review/...E-L-5dr-Estate
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  #93  
By PaleMelanesian on 07-06-2012, 08:38 AM
Re: CleanMPG Reviews the 2013 Mazda CX-5

I'm pretty sure ALL CX-5's are Skyactiv.
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By 50 mpg by 2012 on 07-06-2012, 11:01 AM
Re: CleanMPG Reviews the 2013 Mazda CX-5

By golly you are correct!

About 2 weeks ago when I looked at the Madza UK site, they only mentioned the diesel!

The site now specifically says diesel and gasoline SkyActiv CX5.

So SkyActive 2.0 gasoline 47 mpg(Imp) combined versus 61 mpg(Imp) combined for the diesel FWD MT CX5 ... ~130% for the diesel/gasoline.

US CX5 EPA 29 mpg combined with USER AVERAGE 32 mpg (sample of 1) ... maybe 41.5 mpg USER AVERAGE for the US diesel? At least it sounds reasonable and in the range of the Passat diesel. And I could live with that.

Hypermiling ... ????

Although, I'll bet by 2015 Hyundia/Kia will have improved those numbers by 15%~20%. Smaller displacement maybe ... but I believe it will happen.

For insight here is an interesting read from the Korean International Trade Association
http://global.kita.net/engapp/board_...=S3&code=S3021

Make specific note of comments about automotives and the link at the bottom about petroleum. [tried to do cut-n-paste but could not copy] BTW, China no longer allows incandscent light bulbs >100 watts.


OFF TOPIC: Gasoline price at my benchmark station jumped UP 15’ to $3.259/gallon and diesel to $3.639, a ~10% price spread between 7/4/12 and 7/5/12
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By xcel on 07-06-2012, 11:26 AM
Re: CleanMPG Reviews the 2013 Mazda CX-5

Hi 50 mpg:

With growing interest in climate change and environmental protection, countries around the world have expanded their technology regulation for reasons of saving energy, reducing carbon emissions, and protecting the environment. With the number of TBT notifications issued around the world reaching 1,101 in 2011, the number of technology regulations related to energy and the environment has soared from 99 in 2004 to 200 in 2011. The share of developing countries among the TBTs submitted to the WTO has also surged from 51.6% in 2004 to 81.2% in 2011. In addition, unlike in the developing countries, the regulations related the energy and environment sectors in advanced countries were introduced through a very thorough, careful, and detailed process. Therefore, if Korea is not well-prepared to tackle this issue, its export will meet a big obstacle.

From 2012, airlines that land and take off at the EU countries must be taking part in its emission trading scheme (EU-ETS). Cars that emit more carbon dioxide than mandated by the CO2 emission regulation will be fined. All the imported tires should be labeled with the information about their CO2 emission as well. As Korea, the U.S., and China will ban the sales of 100W or higher incandescent bulbs, the import and export of the product will be impossible. In addition, India is also strengthening its technology regulations to the level of that of Europe, as shown in its recent move to oblige labeling of information about six toxic substances that are banned on electric and electronic products imported to India. Against this backdrop, South Korea needs to closely monitor the developments and prepare response measures.

Influence of International Environmental Regulations on Import and Export of Korea's Businesses

Content of RegulationImplementing CountryRelated IndustryInfluence Short TermLong Term
    
Joining EU-ETS for AirplanesEUSeven including Airlines
Regulating CO2 Emission of CarsEUAutomobile
Tire LabellingEUTireX
Banning Sales of Incandescent Bulbs (100W or higher)KoreaLightingX
Banning Sales of Incandescent Bulbs (100W or higher)U.S.A.Lighting
Banning Sales of Incandescent Bulbs (100W or higher)ChinaLightingX
Restricting Harmful Substances in Electric and Electronic ProductsIndiaElectric & ElectronicXX
Labelling Energy Consumption Efficiency on Electric and Electronic ProductsMexicoElectric & ElectronicX
Mandating the Labelling of Energy Consumption Efficiency on Electric and Electronic ProductsUAEElectric & ElectronicX
Imposing Climate Change Countermeasure TaxJapanPetroleum, Coal, Gas, PetrochemicalX
Regulating CO2 Emission and Mileage of AutomobileKoreaAutomobile
Note: ◯ High, △ Moderate, X Low

Mexico has launched a full-fledged crackdown on 186 electric and electronic products including refrigerator, laundry machine, and air conditioner, which are not labeled with their energy consumption efficiency level in Spanish and the UAE has also obliged labeling of light products with their energy consumption efficiency level marked with the number of stars. Japan will imposes tax for countermeasure against climate change from February 10th, a scheme to impose tax on fossil fuels according to amount of their CO2 emission thus, relevant industries in Korea with a high ratio of export of petroleum products to Japan should come up with response strategies. As all cars running in Korea will have to fulfill either the average energy consumption efficiency standards for cars or the green house gas emission allowance standards, the import of foreign cars with high engine displacement and heavy weight is expected to decrease.

As such, technology regulations that are on the increase around the world will have a negative influence on the domestic export industries in a short term but, in a mid and long term, they will provide Korea with an opportunity to gain the upper hand over its competitors such as China in the eco-friendly high-efficiency energy market, if we response to the trend successfully. To this end, Korean businesses should not just follow the global environmental regulations. They need to closely monitor environmental policies and regulations related to export of their products and how their competitors are responding to them. They also must develop green products as well as obtain international official certifications. Plus, they should map out preemptive strategies which can make them not only lead the global standardization but also create new global markets.
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By 50 mpg by 2012 on 07-06-2012, 12:30 PM
Re: CleanMPG Reviews the 2013 Mazda CX-5

Thanks Wayne.

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As all cars running in Korea will have to fulfill either the average energy consumption efficiency standards for cars or the green house gas emission allowance standards, the import of foreign cars with high engine displacement and heavy weight is expected to decrease.
This will make it tough for Det3 US exports, but it is driving Hyundai/Kia. I was aware the several Korean OEMs were aggressively developing fuel frugal diesel in 2009. But, the Korean Trade Mission in DC would not tell me who.

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OFF TOPIC: Gasoline price at my benchmark station jumped UP 15’ to $3.259/gallon and diesel to $3.639, a ~10% price spread between 7/4/12 and 7/5/12
Today, 7/6/12, gasoline DROPPED to $3.099/gallon and diesel stayed $3.639. And that is with 51’ and 59’ (NC+Federal tax) for gasoline and diesel respectively.
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By CRT1 on 07-06-2012, 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by 50 mpg by 2012 View Post
This will make it tough for Det3 US exports, but it is driving Hyundai/Kia.
Last time I was in Korea was about 6 years ago and I barely saw any non-Korean cars on the road. The only exceptions seemed to be an occasional Japanese economy car and a high-end Caddie, Mercedes, or BMW. I would have guessed that 98% of the mass market belonged to Korean brands. Anyone know if this is still the case? Seemed odd to me because I felt that Korean cars were still behind the curve back then, unlike now.
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By xcel on 07-06-2012, 12:49 PM
Re: CleanMPG Reviews the 2013 Mazda CX-5

Hi CRT1:

I was in Korea this past spring and 75% of the domestic market is indeed Korean cars. Hyundai and Kia of course. I noticed the same thing and asked the Kia PR folks I was with because of it. A few Caddy's, Mercs, Beemer's and Audi's but very few domestics, Europeans or Japanese cars on the road. A very close knit society indeed.

Wayne
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By CRT1 on 07-06-2012, 01:06 PM
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I am very fond of the Korean people and their culture. As an American I felt very comfortable in Korea, especially as a lover of spicy food.
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