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Low & Slow's Ninja 250 project

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Old 05-04-2012, 10:49 PM
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Re: Low & Slow's Ninja 250 project

I rode down to Carmel Thursday afternoon for a get-together at the Vetters' home with all the competitors. It was great to see my friends from previous competitions( Craig, Alan, Fred Hayes, Josh Chen) and to meet our own Redyaris in person. It was fun and all the bikes met the 4 paper grocery bag carrying requirement. Fred had to run with metal panniers on his 2 diesel bikes to meet the current Vetter Challenge rules.
The next morning we topped off our tanks and reported to the starting point for the 2012 Quail Gathering. There were many fabulous bikes: Nortons, Triumphs, MV Agustas, Laverdas, Ducatis, Vincents, Brough Superiors and many other vintage and collectable motorcycles. The ride was beautiful thought the start was misty and the roads were wet and slippery. One rider had a get-off and fortunately was not badly hurt.
After the first stop, my bike didn't start up immediately and Craig passed me while I was still trying to get it started and was technically disqualified for being passed by the designated follower ( Craig). I finally got it started about the middle of the pack and stayed with the fast pace of the group the rest of the ride. I was disappointed as I thought I had at least a small chance at winning or getting a high placement.
The next stop was at the Talbot winery where we got a guided tour. Conditions on that leg were very windy but all the streamliners handled it very well. We proceeded the Laguna Seca racetrack where we rode 2 laps of this famous venue. Then on to the finish and lunch with all 6 Vetter Challengers reporting to the gas station for the official top-off. I didn't record the official results but I know Fred used less a gallon for the ~116 mile ride, Alan used about 1.1 gal, Josh- 1.24 gal, me- 1.25 gal., Craig-~ 1.4 gal and Ron /Redyaris- I can't remember. The ride was fun and the pace was fast; it was the fastest pace I've ridden the Ninja at with speeds up to 85 mph and lots of hard acceleration to keep up and prevent being passed by Craig. I ended up with a 93 mpg run, I wanted to break 100 mpg but I can see how hard it is to achieve this under these difficult conditions. Kudos for to all the Vetter Challengers for another great event.
I rode home and had a pretty good run: 122.4 miles/.9 gallon= 136 mpg.
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Re: Low & Slow's Ninja 250 project

Impressive!!!
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Re: Low & Slow's Ninja 250 project

Looks like you're getting the Ninja tuned in. I'll be interested the see the official results.
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Re: Low & Slow's Ninja 250 project

Good work , Vic. Scott Endler has a lot of catching up to do.
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Re: Low & Slow's Ninja 250 project

Thanks! The more I have have reflected on this Challenge, the better I'm feeling about it; though I got disqualified I still ran at the required pace and produced the second best gas-powered bike results. My bike is similar to what Alan Smith ran at the 2011 Carmel Vetter Challenge and I produced the same results. If I can upgrade my aero package with a good dustbin style front end I could improve further. For the relatively short time I've had the 250 Ninja , I'm doing pretty well with it.

Edwin, Sendler has done some outstanding work with his Honda CBR250 and I'm hoping to meet him at this year's Ohio Vetter Challenge. He is averaging over 90 mpg and has had a best tankfill of over 130mpg. It would be interesting to see what he could do under Vetter Challenge conditions.
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Re: Low & Slow's Ninja 250 project

I saw your log today earlier and I wanted to congratulate so here I am

Great tanks, great numbers, especially under Vetter's crazy requirements!
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Re: Low & Slow's Ninja 250 project

Thanks Alvaro! I had a great time and performed well. Things are looking up.
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Re: Low & Slow's Ninja 250 project

Hi Low&Slow:

When coming close to busting through the triple digit barrier under those conditions, that is excellent work!

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Re: Low & Slow's Ninja 250 project

Thanks Wayne! I'm very pleased with my Carmel Vetter Challenge performance and looking forward to the 7/20 Mid-Ohio Vetter Challenge. I'll be riding my bike out from the SF Bay Area with fellow competitor Alan Smith. We plan to meet another Challenger, Ron Johnston in Cheyenne WY for the rest of the way to Ohio. It should be a blast.

I worked on my bike the past couple of days fixing the rear brakes and installing a new front end. It is now " dustbin" styled. I made a frame out of sheet metal bands and Pvc slats that I bolted and riveted together. I covered the frame with coroplast, installed the turnsignals and reused my old coroplast windscreen. I took it for its first ride this morning. It seemed to pass through the air plenty well but was too flexible in strong winds in the area near the front wheel. I need to make it more rigid. I also need to test the effectiveness of a front cooling vent to ensure adequate coooling. Hopefully this will allow me to close the performance gap between me and some of the other Vetter Challengers.
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Re: Low & Slow's Ninja 250 project

I added some steel tubing over the front wheel and the front end is stiffer with much less wind deflection. I rode the bike about 30 miles today at speeds up to 75 mph and it seemed to work well with a noticeable decrease in aero drag; I'm able to hold top gear longer and able get to top gear with less acceleration. The only negative so far is that the temperature gauge is reading higher than before but still out of the red zone. More testing to follow.
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