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Are Russian winters in retreat?

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Old 08-08-2010, 01:26 PM
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Re: Are Russian winters in retreat?

I lean slightly toward the "CO2 increase in ATM is causing a warming of the ATM and seas".

Why wouldn't an increase in CO2 cause warming?? It absorbs more radiation that would otherwise just go off into space-so why the heck wouldn't it cause warming??

The usual answer is something like other effects-sunspots are more significant. Is that about it?? Saying the rise in CO2 just isn't important in warming at ATM because other effects are waaaaay more important ?

Most of the science backing man caused warming- other than the 280 to 380ppm rise- is measuring markers for ATM and sea warming like ice in various glaciers-right? Or average yearly temps at specific places on earth(unfortunately most of the best data is probably cities-which get hotter as the get more built up).

Is That about it-CO2 not important- data not great-indirect markers are not good stand ins for ATM and sea temp increases??

Just curious-
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Re: Are Russian winters in retreat?

Another extreme COLD weather events that is caused by global warming, as models predict.

http://www.nature.com/news/2010/1008....2010.437.html

"The blame lies, at least indirectly, with a mass of Antarctic air that settled over the Southern Cone of South America for most of July. The prolonged cold snap has also been linked to the deaths of at least 550 penguins along the coasts of Brazil and thousands of cattle in Paraguay and Brazil, as well as hundreds of people in the region.

Water temperatures in Bolivian rivers that normally register about 15 ˚C during the day fell to as low as 4 ˚C."

Why indirectly and not directly? Oh, because they can speculate this.

"With such extreme climatic events potentially becoming more common due to climate change, scientists are hurrying to coordinate research into the impact, and how quickly the ecosystem is likely to recover."

"We hope to secure financing for these studies to find out why the fish are dying," he says. With luck, and money, these will start in October."

Headline - CLIMATE CHANGE FREEZES 550 PENGUINS
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Re: Are Russian winters in retreat?

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deaths of at least 550 penguins ...
thousands of cattle ...
as well as hundreds of people in the region.
And yet the headline only mentions penguins.
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