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Honda Backs Hydrogen as U.S. Favors Battery Vehicles

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Do we really need to wean ourselves so far off gas that we switch to hydrogen as a secondary fuel when the batter runs dry?

If we increase our current mileage from the 20mph or less we currently have to 200mpg (not equiv, but actual avg gas used per mile), then aren't we good to go? If most gas is already e10, then about 10% of our gas supply is ethenal. So if we could drop out need by 90%, we could reasonably go to 100% biofuels which although aren't as energy dense as oil based gas, are far denser than hydrogen systems for the size of the fuel tank. When I do go cross country, I'd still like to be able to use gas and only stop a few times. I don't want to have to pull into the hydrogen station every 200 miles.
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All of the major automakers have come out in favor of hydrogen. In fact, in Germany there is an H2 Mobility in place where many hydrogen fueling stations are to be built by 2015 so that fuel cell cars can be sold commercially then.
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I did hear the CEO of Honda say that the automotive future is in hydrogen at NAIAS in Detroit this year. I along with many others still can not see the viability of it yet though.
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Hi All:

___There are so many choices available and H2 seems to be about the lowest payback of all. Even Honda’s own H2 fill station in CA runs out of H2 after just 6-fillups (or something like that) on any given day which is the real reason why Clarity leases are so constrained.

___Regarding Honda being the only FCV provider via Lease, GM’s Project Driveway is still up and running and has more FCV’s on the road in CA than anyone else. I will have to look this up again sometime…

___Anyways, Brazil has their act together and it isn’t under the H2 mantra. Maybe we will head that direction as Ethanol is certainly more energy dense than H2, the infrastructure is in place and all we have to do is become far less stupid with regards to how it is produced in this country.

___Currently however, both solutions are terrible when it comes to sustainability with the H2 cracking of NG and recompressing as well as Corn based Ethanol.

___Good Luck

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Honda is so committed to hydrogen fuel cell cars that it's not only building the vehicles but working on solutions for the refueling stations as well.

http://www.honda.com/newsandviews/article.aspx?id=5366

Hydrogen on demand using solar or wind would make the building of the infrastructure much easier.
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