User Name Password    
  CleanMPG, Learn to raise fuel economy and lower emissions in whatever you drive.
MENU
• What is hypermiling? •
CleanMPG to AAA:
• Hypermiling Rebuttal •
 
• Home
• CleanMPG Staff
• Articles
• Fuel Economy Forums
      • Register

   Car Reviews:

Transit Connect

Lexus HS 250h

Canadian Insight-II

Canadian Jetta TDI


BMW 335d

Prius-III

Honda Insight-II

HCH-II
   Bike and Gear Reviews:

Aerostich Darien

Shoei Hornet DS

Honda CRF230L

Yamaha XT250


• More Reviews
• Gallery
• Mileage Logs
 
• CleanMPG Store
 
• Calendar
• Glossary
• Garage
• Files
 
• Research
• Related Sites
 
• Archives
• Arcade
 
• Monthly Fuel Efficient •
Vehicle Sales Figures


ScanGauge with X-Gauge: $159.95

Pre-programming, a CleanMPG laser cut decal, and shipping included!



Even better value for members only is available in the latest SG-II w/ X-Gauge Group Buy purchase thread.



While we strive to provide only the highest quality information through our members' offerings, if you find the information provided valuable, please consider a donation so that we can offer an even better experience for the membership and guests well into the future.

Thank you

-Wayne Gerdes
Owner/Admin
CleanMPG



Home Fuel Economy Forums Gallery Mileage Logs

Register FAQ Members List Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read


Go Back   CleanMPG Forums » Conventional Automobile Owners Community » General


General General conventional automobile discussion and overview including questions and concerns.

Welcome to the CleanMPG forums.

Some posts may describe situations which may in some cases be unsafe or illegal in some jurisdictions. Please use common sense and consult your local laws to make sure you do not hurt yourself or others or break any laws.

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view discussions, articles and access our other features. By joining our community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload your own photos and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today!

If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact contact support.

What is the "Proper" Way to Park an AT?

View Poll Results: How do you park your AT equipped vehicle?
With foot on brake, shut off in D, engage parking brake, shift to P 2 8.70%
With foot on brake, shut off in N, engage parking brake, shift to P 4 17.39%
With foot on brake, shift to P, shut off in P, engage parking brake 17 73.91%
Shift to P, release brake to engage parking pawl, shut off in P, engage parking brake 0 0%
Voters: 23. You may not vote on this poll

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #11   Submit to Clesto Submit to Digg Submit to Reddit Submit to Furl Submit to Del.icio.us Submit to Spurl
Old 05-30-2009, 04:16 PM
nidly nidly is offline
Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Vehicles: 1995 blazer , 1999 venture , 2004 Cavalier
Location: Ohio
Posts: 79
Re: What is the "Proper" Way to Park an AT?

I'm surprised many do not do it like I've done for years.

Turn off engine , and when car comes to a stop shift it into park without brakes.
__________________


Reply With Quote
  #12   Submit to Clesto Submit to Digg Submit to Reddit Submit to Furl Submit to Del.icio.us Submit to Spurl
Old 06-01-2009, 02:38 PM
melinuxfool melinuxfool is offline
Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Vehicles: 1996 Nissan Pickup
Location: Maine, USA
Posts: 61
Re: What is the "Proper" Way to Park an AT?

I don't think it matters as much the order you do things in. But to avoid stress on the transmission, you want to engage the parking brake before you release the foot-brake. You don't want the car to try to roll against the parking gear. Though here in Maine, people seldom use the parking brake (it's still called an emergency brake up here). Heck, even people with a standard tranny don't use it!
__________________
Best Trip: 20.2 miles on 0.68 gallons of gas, 29.7 mpg. 180% of Combined EPA!
Reply With Quote
  #13   Submit to Clesto Submit to Digg Submit to Reddit Submit to Furl Submit to Del.icio.us Submit to Spurl
Old 06-01-2009, 02:46 PM
diamondlarry's Avatar
diamondlarry diamondlarry is offline
Super MPG Man
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Vehicles: 2007 Toyota Prius
Location: Elkhart, IN
Posts: 4,950
Re: What is the "Proper" Way to Park an AT?

Quote:
Originally Posted by melinuxfool View Post
I don't think it matters as much the order you do things in. But to avoid stress on the transmission, you want to engage the parking brake before you release the foot-brake. You don't want the car to try to roll against the parking gear. Though here in Maine, people seldom use the parking brake (it's still called an emergency brake up here). Heck, even people with a standard tranny don't use it!
To be honest, I never heard it referred to as a "parking" brake until relatively late in life. I had always heard it called an "emergency" or "E" brake. We were also taught to turn the wheels towards the curb when parked going downhill and away from the curb when going uphill. Also, on a stick, to put the car in the gear opposite of which direction the car was going when on a hill.
__________________




"Fear exists for one purpose: to be conquered!"-Captain Catherine Janeway
Best tank: 101.1 mpg over 867.4 miles from 8/9/08-9/6/08
Longest tank: 1,214.6 miles(100.3 mpg) from 08/17/09-09/17/09
Reply With Quote
  #14   Submit to Clesto Submit to Digg Submit to Reddit Submit to Furl Submit to Del.icio.us Submit to Spurl
Old 06-02-2009, 09:35 AM
Boston Man Boston Man is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Vehicles: 2006 Honda Civic LX Sedan A/T
Posts: 66
Re: What is the "Proper" Way to Park an AT?

It doesnt matter what you do as long as there is some type of brake applied BEFORE placing it in park and some type of brake is stayed applied so that the car doesnt roll and put stress on the transmission.

But this is what I do:

1) Foot on Brake
2) Put in Park
3) Engage Parking Brake
4) Foot off brake
5) Engine Off
Reply With Quote
  #15   Submit to Clesto Submit to Digg Submit to Reddit Submit to Furl Submit to Del.icio.us Submit to Spurl
Old 06-02-2009, 10:31 AM
aburk4's Avatar
aburk4 aburk4 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Vehicles: '00 Honda Civic LX Auto
Location: Pinckney, Michigan
Posts: 83
Re: What is the "Proper" Way to Park an AT?

I am always in FAS when I am about ready to park. I put the car in neutral coast, FAS, then coast into the spot. Next I apply brake, pull emergency brake, release regular brake, then finally shift into park. There is never an instance when my car is in park without the emergency brake engaged. It takes the stress off the tranny
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #16   Submit to Clesto Submit to Digg Submit to Reddit Submit to Furl Submit to Del.icio.us Submit to Spurl
Old 06-02-2009, 02:31 PM
phlack phlack is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Vehicles: 2006 Honda Civic LX Automatic
Location: Melbourne, FL
Posts: 178
Re: What is the "Proper" Way to Park an AT?

I never thought about there being pressure on the transmission. Usually when I put it in park, I shut off pretty quickly, or I still have my foot on the brake while shutting down.

I would assume the same would hold after starting the car, would it not?

I can't remember the last time I used my parking/emergency brake. My wife does when she drives me car, and it annoys me because I never do, so I don't notice.

I also live in the plains of central florida; it is never an issue.

Does it really put THAT much stress on the tranny?

-Mike
Reply With Quote
  #17   Submit to Clesto Submit to Digg Submit to Reddit Submit to Furl Submit to Del.icio.us Submit to Spurl
Old 06-06-2009, 09:40 PM
R.I.D.E. R.I.D.E. is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2009
Vehicles: 2002 Honda Insight CVT, 1998 Mercedes SLK 230
Location: Williamsburg, Virginia
Posts: 272
Re: What is the "Proper" Way to Park an AT?

My driveway is about a 15% grade. If the parking pawl fails with no emergency brake, the car could roll down through the garage door and out the back of the house where there is almost a 6 foot drop. The lot slopes 25 feet in 180 feet from front to back end.

Stop completely, shift to neutral, apply brake until it will hold car, put it in park and turn off the ignition.

One of my daughters does it right. The other one never does it right (the college grad). When she tries to shift out of park with no emergency brake applied there is a huge PRANG noise as the pawl releases. Sometimes she can get it to release and I have to manhandle it until it does. I am wincing the whole time.

Yes you can break it and you will learn to use the parking brake after you pay over a grand to fix the tranny.

Tires pointed towards curb downhill, away from curb uphill.

regards
gary
Reply With Quote
  #18   Submit to Clesto Submit to Digg Submit to Reddit Submit to Furl Submit to Del.icio.us Submit to Spurl
Old 06-07-2009, 01:40 PM
JusBringIt's Avatar
JusBringIt JusBringIt is online now
Be Inspired
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Vehicles: 1999 Dodge Avenger, 2009 GMC Denali
Location: Schenectady, NY
Posts: 4,467
Re: What is the "Proper" Way to Park an AT?

I always use my parking brake to lock the wheels before I shift to park. (Ignition is already off btw)
__________________
Best Tank:44.2mpg 730.6mi


Reply With Quote
  #19   Submit to Clesto Submit to Digg Submit to Reddit Submit to Furl Submit to Del.icio.us Submit to Spurl
Old 11-06-2009, 02:12 AM
av911 av911 is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 3
Re: What is the "Proper" Way to Park an AT?

I initially started off doing PARK --> E-BRAKES --> IGN OFF. But read that it puts a lot of strain on the PARK mechanism, so I changed my routine to NEUTRAL --> E-BRAKE --> PARK --> IGN OFF.

EDIT: My bad, didn't realize this thread was months old.

Last edited by av911 : 11-06-2009 at 02:20 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #20   Submit to Clesto Submit to Digg Submit to Reddit Submit to Furl Submit to Del.icio.us Submit to Spurl
Old 11-06-2009, 09:05 AM
Mendel Leisk Mendel Leisk is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Vehicles: 2006 Honda Civic Hybrid
Location: Coquitlam, BC (Greater Vancouver Area)
Posts: 424
Re: What is the "Proper" Way to Park an AT?

With the Honda Civic Hybrid, the engine shuts off when you come to a stop (assuming it's fully warmed, has sufficient battery pack charge, and a few other parameters are met). However, if you shift into Park the engine starts up again. So, I've taken to turning the ignition key off before shifting to park, to avoid that superfluous engine start up.

After that, with foot on the brake, I usually shift to Park, pull up the Parking Brake, release foot brake.

As far as tire position on grades, our provincial Drivers Manual's guidance is:

1. Car pointing downhill (with/without curb): tires angled towards curb or side of road.

2. Car pointing uphill with curb: tires angled towards centre of road.

3. Car pointing uphill without curb: tires angled towards side of road.

Guidance I got when in driver training:

When parking faced uphill with curb: angle the tires towards centre of road, with a slight space to the curb, and then let the car roll back gently, till the back of tire was bearing on the curb, and then put it in Park and set the parking brake.

When parking faced downhill with curb: angle the tires towards side of road, with a slight space to the curb, and then let the car roll forward gently, till the front of the tires was bearing on the curb, and then put it in Park and set the parking brake.
Reply With Quote
Reply




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Honda Insight II spotted in Park City, Utah! Sulfuric The Daily Grind 8 02-10-2009 12:18 PM
5th Annual Hybrid gathering at Miller Park bradlee Events and Gatherings 1 05-04-2008 12:08 AM
Hybrid Gathering at Miller Park, 6-3-07 bradlee Events and Gatherings 4 05-26-2007 12:29 PM
18th Annual Tour de Sol: May 10–14, 2006 in Saratoga Spa State Park, NY. xcel In the News 0 05-06-2006 10:13 PM
Tour de Sol – May 10 through 14, 2006 Saratoga Spa State Park, NY. xcel Events and Gatherings 0 03-01-2006 01:13 AM



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:52 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©2006 - 2009, Clean MPG LLC. All Rights Reserved.