AES looking to 'plug in' to hybrid vehicle business.

[xcel]

PHEV’s can be implemented using existing infrastructure, unlike hydrogen fuel cell vehicles, which may require decades of development.

Barton Eckert - Washington Business Journal - August 14, 2006


Hymotions’ FEH PHEV-50 would be good for AES’ bottom line.

Hybrid electric vehicles are receiving more attention, and more investment, as fuel prices continue to rise. Now AES is joining a consortium in support of plug-in hybrids.

Hybrids are "an economical way to help meet our nation's transportation, environmental and energy goals in a sustainable way," says Robert Hemphill, executive vice president of Arlington-based AES, one of the world's biggest power companies with facilities in 26 countries.

The consortium includes automotive suppliers, manufacturers and others trying to accelerate commercial production of hybrid vehicles.

Plug-ins are different from current hybrids because they can get more than 100 miles per gallon by being plugged into an electric socket. Plug-ins charge batteries that can give the vehicle more than 20 miles of range without using their combustion engines.

AES says plug-in hybrids can be implemented relatively quickly using the existing electric power infrastructure, unlike hydrogen fuel cell vehicles, which may require decades of development and significant infrastructure changes.

[Pravus Prime]

I'm starting to dislike the 100+ MPG label on PHEVs. But, if that's what I've got to bear to get one, that won't be a problem.

Why can't Hymotion give me a PHEV FEH for advertising purposes? I'd take good care of it!

[hobbit]

I've been ranting about those MPG figures for a while now. A good
object-lesson is my final MPG after the Ipswich challenge run
going from 94.something to 84.something simply by force-charging
and restoring the state I started in. Where does the energy in
those aux packs come from? It's not free. It's cheaper, maybe
but not free. "miles per kilowatt-hour" or "GGE" has to start
entering the public consciousness REAL soon or you're going to
have a bunch of disappointed customers out there.
.
_H*

[xcel]

Hi Rich and Hobbit:

___I know you guys have problems with PHEV’s but let’s get down to brass tacks. Powering a Prius II PHEV-25 for 50 miles of which 25 comes entirely from electricity costs $1.50 for the gasoline (25 miles at 50 mpg = .5 gallons at $3.00 per gallon) and $0.40 for the electricity (25 miles * 200 Wh/mile = 5kWh and a kWh costs ~ $0.08 here in IL which = $0.40). Doing the math = $1.90 to drive 50 miles. I am talking about a decent driver receiving just 50 mpg from a Prius II over 50 miles, not a hypermiler … If you want to go to hypermiler extremes (under 40 mph P&G, why not just go EV all the way at 35 or under? 100 mpg over 50 miles ($1.50 in gasoline) vs. 150 Wh/mile over 50 miles ($0.60 in electricity). This is where the PHEV kicks @$$.

___Once the next gen high speed MGSets are let loose on the Prius III/TCH-II/FEH-II as well as their electro-hydraulic lubrication, a PHEV-50 can travel 50 miles at 55 + mph for a grand total of just $0.75 vs. $3.00 + in gasoline. This is the killer app. No matter how we slice it, if we can get our hands on a reliable PHEV-30 or 50 for 95% of our daily commute/travel, the fuel costs get stupidly low again. In come the all electric Hummers and Suburban’s overloading the grid of course but at least it will be an internal US problem instead of a Middle East, Central America, African based US problem … All of this still relies on a yet to be found powerful and inexpensive Li-Ion solution of course …

___Good Luck

___Wayne