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Chrysler begins building new V6

It will save Chrysler by consolidating four engine families into one.

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Somehow this does not seem like a timely response to Ecoboost, VTEC, clean diesel, or HSD. Even Bob Lutz predicted V6s will not be commonplace the next five years.

With Michigan Governor Jennifer M. Granholm and other local officials in attendance, Chrysler Group LLC celebrated the launch of its all-new Pentastar V-6 engine at an event today at the Trenton (Mich.) South Engine Plant (TSEP).

In addition to the Governor, Wayne County Executive Robert Ficano, Trenton Mayor Gerald Brown, UAW Chrysler Department Assistant Director Tim Bressler and other local officials joined Chrysler Group executives and Trenton South employees in recognizing the importance of the plant and the new engine in the future success of the Company.

“The Pentastar engine is a cornerstone of Chrysler’s efforts to re-invent its business model with strong, brand-focused, world-class quality products,” said Scott Garberding, Head of Manufacturing, Chrysler Group LLC. “The new Trenton South plant demonstrates the Chrysler Group’s commitment to supporting economic development in Michigan. It also acknowledges the support of the International UAW and our outstanding workforce for helping us create an engine plant that can compete with the best in the world. Their efforts will help establish Trenton South as a premier manufacturer of fuel-efficient engines in support of the Company's future growth.”

Chrysler Group’s all-new flex-fuel Pentastar V-6 is the most advanced V-6 engine in the company’s history. This new line of V-6 engines will contribute to an overall fuel-efficiency improvement of more than 25 percent across the Chrysler, Ram Truck, Jeep® and Dodge product lineup. More refined and fuel-efficient, the Pentastar engine will ultimately replace seven current Chrysler Group V-6 engines and utilize advanced technologies from the Fiat alliance such as Multiair, direct-injection and turbocharging.

The first application of this engine will be in the all-new 2011 Jeep Grand Cherokee, due out in the second quarter this year.

The start of production at Trenton South represents one piece of the Chrysler Group’s revamped powertrain strategy. In December 2009, the Company announced that it would invest $179 million in its Global Engine Manufacturing Alliance (GEMA) plant in Dundee, Mich., to produce the 1.4-liter, 16-valve Fully Integrated Robotized Engine (FIRE). Together, these two plants — with a combined investment of nearly $1 billion — position Michigan at the center of Chrysler Group’s powertrain offensive.

“With the start of production here in Trenton and the recently announced investment in Dundee, Chrysler Group has helped affirm Michigan’s position as the world’s leader in automotive innovation and excellence,” said Gov. Granholm. “These projects further demonstrate that Michigan has the competitive business climate, infrastructure and talented workforce to compete in the global marketplace.”

Chrysler Group announced a $730 million investment in the Pentastar program when it broke ground on the all-new 822,000-square-foot facility in May 2007. The plant will have an annual manufacturing capacity of more than 400,000 engines.

“Three years ago, Chrysler Group demonstrated its confidence in its workforce by investing in its powertrain operations,” said the UAW’s Bressler. “Today, the UAW members at Trenton are excited to participate in building the next generation of high quality, fuel-efficient engines for Chrysler's great lineup of vehicles and thereby, ensuring the Company’s future success."

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Re: Chrysler begins building new V6

Great that it saves costs for Chrysler, but I agree that the last thing the world needs now is another 280hp engine.
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Re: Chrysler begins building new V6

If this thing replaces a lot of the 4.7 V8's, then it is a positive step IMO. If they use this new engine in their Grand's and in the trucks, it will be a positive. They really needed a more efficient V6. The current ones, especially the 3.7, are hogs. The 2.7 was a great V6 in terms of power and fuel efficiency, but an early design flaw gave it a bad rep. Hopefully for Chrysler, this new design will have all the bugs worked out BEFORE it goes to the public.
As to their 4 bangers, Fiat is going to take care of that, and just in time. Although i can't say a lot of bad things about the GEMA 2.4 in my Caliber, i can't say a lot of great things about it either. It is a capable, but decidedly mediocre engine, dual VVT or not.
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Re: Chrysler begins building new V6

There's also the possibility for Chrysler that a good engine (although not necessarily the best for the vehicles they are building) is a valuable item for takeover.
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Re: Chrysler begins building new V6

Hi All:

___We are still meandering along with an “official” almost 10% unemployment rate and gasoline is already $3.00 + per gallon just about everywhere… Did anyone hear of almost three-quarters of a Billion Dollars being flushed down a toilet somewhere?

___Good Luck

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___We are still meandering along with an “official” almost 10% unemployment rate and gasoline is already $3.00 + per gallon just about everywhere… Did anyone hear of almost three-quarters of a Billion Dollars being flushed down a toilet somewhere?

___Good Luck

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Re: Chrysler begins building new V6

I wonder if their new engine will last more than 30k miles. That would be a first.
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I wonder if their new engine will last more than 30k miles. That would be a first.
I have had several of their vehicles exceed 200K miles with the original engine and transmission intact and functioning fine.
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Re: Chrysler begins building new V6

They would have been liquidated if they were THAT bad.

Still, QA is a concern as noted by Consumer Reports.
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Re: Chrysler begins building new V6

Hi Blackbelt:

___It is more of a problem, with building a V6 in an era when a small I4 is probably too big already. How did the lead people at Chrysler/Daimler/Cerebus even consider approving the build given the complete waste for this particular engine plant???

___This is not just putting all your eggs I one basket but putting them all in the wrong one basket before there was even half a chance at recuperating some of these $’s!

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