[Earthling]

Wayne, nice write-up.

I'd give the "value" rating of these bikes a "4" rather than your "2." Compare the prices of these two bikes with Harleys or Goldwings, and you'll see what I mean. These bikes will out-handle and out-brake most Harleys, and will do better than Goldwings in the twisties and at the gas pump, and for $ thousands less.

Harry