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atlaw4u 05-22-2012 08:40 AM

Survey: Gas mileage top concern for new-car buyers
 
Quality, safety follow far behind in Consumer Reports poll.

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Reid Stuart - CleanMPG - May 22, 2012

New-car buyers ranked fuel economy as their top issue and are now "really" considering smaller, more fuel-efficient vehicles, according to survey by Consumer Reports released early this morning.

With fuel prices at near record levels, consumers are driving less and contemplating a move to smaller, more fuel-efficient vehicles, according to recent survey by Consumer Reports.

The survey found that 37 percent said their leading consideration when shopping for their next car will be fuel economy. A distant second was quality (17 percent) followed by safety (16 percent), value (14 percent) and performance (6 percent).

"These results make it clear that high fuel prices are continuing to impact driver behavior and influencing future purchase considerations," said Jeff Bartlett, Consumer Reports deputy auto editor. "While quality, safety and value are still important, this may be foreshadowing a market shift by folks seeking relief at the pump."

Some two-thirds of owners surveyed said they expected their next vehicle to get better fuel mileage than the one they're driving now. While gasoline costs (90 percent) were the number one reason cited for wanting a more fuel-efficient vehicle, more than half of respondents also had other reasons, including a desire to be more environmentally friendly (62 percent) and concern about dependence on foreign oil (56 percent).

Women disproportionately said they were motivated by the environmental benefit of better fuel economy (65 percent vs. 58 percent of men), more concerned about dependence on foreign oil (63 percent vs. 49 percent of men), and impacted by changes on the home front (38 percent vs. 31 percent).

The survey, conducted by the Consumer Reports National Research Center, found that car owners were open to different ways of saving at the pump, from downsizing to looking at hybrids, electric cars, or models with diesel engines. In all, nearly three quarters (73 percent) of participants said they would consider some type of alternatively fueled vehicle, with flex-fuel (which can run on E85 ethanol) and hybrid models leading the way. Younger buyers were more likely to consider an alternatively-fuel or purely electric vehicle than drivers over the age of 55.

Of those who said they plan to move to a different type, owners of large SUVs were the most open to downsizing, frequently planning to move to a smaller SUV. Small cars were the leading category targeted by survey respondents for their next vehicle, followed by larger sedans and midsized SUVs. Further illuminating a future market shift, larger sedans (18 percent) and minivans (7 percent) are on fewer participants' radar relative to their current model.

With the federal government expected to finalize new fuel efficiency standards later this year that would require manufacturer's average fuel economy to reach 54.5 miles-per-gallon by 2025, some 90 percent of respondents agreed or strongly agreed with the statements "Auto manufacturers should offer a greater variety of cleaner, more fuel-efficient vehicles in the near future." Almost 80 percent felt the same about the statements "Fuel economy standards should require auto manufacturers to increase the overall fleet average to at least 55 miles per gallon," (79%) and "I am willing to pay extra for a more fuel efficient vehicle if I can recover the additional cost through lower fuel costs" (81%).

"When gas prices are high, it's always tempting to rush to trade-in for a more fuel-efficient car to save at the pump. But our research has shown that you're often better off financially to stick it out with the vehicle you have if it's less than three years old, because a new vehicle will cost you more in depreciation than you would save on gas," said Bartlett.

The Consumer Reports National Research Center conducted the random, nationwide telephone survey in two waves, April 5-7 and April 12-15, 2012, contacting 2,009 adults. The Center interviewed 1,702 adults in households that had at least one car.

WriConsult 05-22-2012 11:31 AM

Re: Survey: Gas mileage top concern for new-car buyers
 
About freakin' time. Besides the scarcity of used cars (which pushed me into the new-car market last year), another argument for new cars is that they often get better mileage than comparable used models.

herm 05-22-2012 12:04 PM

Re: Survey: Gas mileage top concern for new-car buyers
 
Lots of profits in SUVs for the Big 3.. you would think a mostly aluminum and high strength steel body plus mild hybridization would pay off in big sales with improved economy numbers. Ford will do it with its trucks and I bet the Exploder wont be far behind.

ALS 05-22-2012 01:31 PM

Re: Survey: Gas mileage top concern for new-car buyers
 
I was at the Toyota dealer today and other than the Prius I was still disappointed at the EPA MPG stickers I saw on the windows of the 2012's.

A Tundra sitting there with a sticker showing 17 mpg highway 13 mpg city. :eek:

Don't even ask about what the Land Cruiser costs let alone gets in fuel mileage. :rolleyes:

Mendel Leisk 05-22-2012 02:09 PM

Re: Survey: Gas mileage top concern for new-car buyers
 
Come up to Canada, where your mileage will improve due to:

1. Transport Canada's extremely optimistic mileage testing methods.

2. Miles per imperial gallon quotations (imperial gallons are roughly 5/4 of US gallon), both from TC and smarmy dealers.

ItsNotAboutTheMoney 05-22-2012 02:30 PM

Re: Survey: Gas mileage top concern for new-car buyers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mendel Leisk (Post 345231)
2. Miles per imperial gallon quotations (imperial gallons are roughly 5/4 of US gallon), both from TC and smarmy dealers.

6/5: bigger fluid ounces.

RedylC94 05-22-2012 02:37 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mendel Leisk (Post 345231)
2. Miles per imperial gallon quotations (imperial gallons are roughly 5/4 of US gallon ...

Much closer to 6/5 US gallon.

US gallon = 231 in³ exactly;
Imperial gallon is (or was) the volume occupied by 10 lb of water.

Mendel Leisk 05-22-2012 02:44 PM

Re: Survey: Gas mileage top concern for new-car buyers
 
Well, a US gallon is 4 quarts, and an Imperial gallon is 5 quarts, hence 5/4. I say roughly because I believe the oz's making those quarts are also slightly different.

In oz's, the US gallon is 128 oz, and the imperial gallon is 160 oz. Same 5/4 ratio.

atlaw4u 05-22-2012 03:32 PM

Re: Survey: Gas mileage top concern for new-car buyers
 
If I were currently shopping I would be seriously considering the Hyundai Accent hatch or the Prius C.

ItsNotAboutTheMoney 05-22-2012 03:37 PM

Re: Survey: Gas mileage top concern for new-car buyers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mendel Leisk (Post 345239)
Well, a US gallon is 4 quarts, and an Imperial gallon is 5 quarts, hence 5/4. I say roughly because I believe the oz's making those quarts are also slightly different.

In oz's, the US gallon is 128 oz, and the imperial gallon is 160 oz. Same 5/4 ratio.

I'll repeat. ;) It's the flozzes that make the difference.

Imperial = 28.4130742 ml
US = 29.5735296 ml

(16/20)*(29.5735296/28.4130742) = 0.83267384280438052704624267654923, which is very close to 5/6.

Disclosure: I used to make the same assumption based on the number of floz.

Mendel Leisk 05-22-2012 08:42 PM

Re: Survey: Gas mileage top concern for new-car buyers
 
^ I didn't appreciate there was that much difference in the ounces (finally broke down and spell checked the full word). And I'd agree: floozies make all the difference. ;)

chilimac02 05-22-2012 09:21 PM

Re: Survey: Gas mileage top concern for new-car buyers
 
Stable gas prices could make a difference here. Buyers are worried that 4 dollar gas and mpg. But they worry that if the price of gas drops back to 2.29 a gallon that they will wasn't a 4door truck again. Car makers are worried about these same issues. Factory outputs would have to be adjusted accordingly. We need arable prices. A stable currency would fix this. Instead of tying dollars to gold why not oil?

50 mpg by 2012 05-23-2012 12:49 AM

Re: Survey: Gas mileage top concern for new-car buyers
 
Yesterday I did a www.fueleconomy.gov Power Search of Det3 2012 and 2013 midsized cars and station wagons to assess average mpg(US) combined.

Answer: 20.9 mpg

Then I looked at minivans and SUVs ... 20.2 mpg(US) combined

Unfortunately ... I forgot to include hybrids in the search criteria ... but you get the idea.

Looks like a few fuel frugal <2 Liter Euro type diesels could get those midsized (and slightly larger) at least into the high 30's ... and maybe a few into the 50s mpg(US) combined.

That would certainly alter the fuel cost budget ... provided US price premium for the diesel engine is similar to Europe. Maybe an additional $1K for US emissions abatement.

At least that is the way it looks to me.

PaleMelanesian 05-23-2012 08:27 AM

Re: Survey: Gas mileage top concern for new-car buyers
 
Sigh...

A coworker just got a new F150 4-door (V8 of course). He's trading his "old" tundra to another coworker, replacing his old Buick Century 3.8.

On the other hand, another coworker got approval for part-time work from home. He commutes ~60 miles each way in his Super Duty. This will save a lot!

frv 05-23-2012 09:33 AM

Re: Survey: Gas mileage top concern for new-car buyers
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ItsNotAboutTheMoney (Post 345252)
I'll repeat. ;) It's the flozzes that make the difference.

Imperial = 28.4130742 ml
US = 29.5735296 ml

(16/20)*(29.5735296/28.4130742) = 0.83267384280438052704624267654923, which is very close to 5/6.

Disclosure: I used to make the same assumption based on the number of floz.

I don't use quite so many decimal places :p but I divide my mpgUK by 1.20095 to get mpgUS so I can compare my FE with you guys :D


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