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xcel
04-10-2008, 08:38 PM
20% more power, 25% more torque, EU5 emissions compliant and a 13% improvement in FE makes for one heck of a combination. Only in Europe again :( (http://www.cleanmpg.com/forums/showthread.php?p=85255)

http://www.cleanmpg.com/photos/data/501/MB_C-Class.jpg Wayne Gerdes - CleanMPG (www.cleanmpg.com) - April 10, 2008

MB C-Class with upcoming all-new 2.1L European Super Diesel.

Mercedes-Benz design engineers have achieved the impossible with their new four-cylinder diesel. The most powerful variant extracts 204 hp and 369 Lb-ft. from a displacement of just 2.1L.

Even Lower fuel consumption despite greater output

This fuel consumption figures for the C-Class, in which the diesel ICE will be making its debut consumes just 43.5 mpgUS on the NEDC (New European Driving Cycle). The 170 HP variant returns an even lower fuel consumption 46 mpgUS on the same. We are talking COMBINED!

Besides reduced CO2 output due to increases fuel economy, the design has succeeded in reducing untreated engine emissions. Even without an active denoxification process (Urea injection into an SCR is not part of this engines emissions package), the new four-cylinder diesel exceeds the upcoming EU5 emissions standard.

Real world performance

The C-Class equipped with the upcoming 2.1L diesel achieves near sport car performance, w/ a 0 – 60 time in under 7.7 seconds and just 9.4 seconds to pick up from 37 to 75 mph.

C-Class 2.1L Diesel options at a glance

Model|250 CDI|220 CDI|200 CDI
Cylinders|4|4|4
Valves/Cylinder|4|4|4
Displacement (cc)|2,143|2,143|2,143
Compressions Ratio|16.2:1|16.2:1|16.2:1
Max Output (HP)|204|170|136
Max Torque (Lb-Ft.)|369|295|243

Latest technologies to achieve fuel economy and performance targets

The new engine’s power and torque output, fuel economy plus lowered exhaust emissions are the result of a the inclusion of a number of new technologies which cannot currently be found in any other standard-production passenger car diesel engine.
Two-stage turbo-charging ensures high power output and optimum torque delivery.

Fourth-generation common-rail technology with a rail pressure of 29,400 psi, plus a new piezoelectric injector concept featuring direct injector needle control.

The maximum ignition pressure is 2900 psi contributing to the high output.

Both the oil-spray nozzles and the water pump are electrically driven and activated in accordance with requirements to save energy.

The camshaft drive is positioned at the rear in order to enhance running refinement and satisfy the exacting pedestrian protection requirements.

Two water jackets guarantee maximum cooling.

The forged crankshaft with its eight counterweights are supported by five bearings for vibration control.

To compensate for the free vibration moments which are inherent to all I4 engines, there are two Lanchester balancer shafts at the bottom of the engine block running in low-friction roller bearings.

A two-mass flywheel, featuring a primary flywheel mass fixed to the crankshaft that is connected to the secondary flywheel mass on the transmission by means of springs, isolates the crankshaft's vibration from the drivetrain, thereby contributing to the engine's excellent smoothness.

Elixer
04-10-2008, 10:18 PM
:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:
43mpg with a 0-60 in less than 8 seconds on a diesel?! This car puts American cars to shame.

bill717
04-10-2008, 10:31 PM
I was really excited about this article too until I finished reading the end of the first line, only in Europe :mad:. If these were sold here I would seriously consider buying a mercedes. With the current gas engine mercedes lineup, not only is the mileage not great but you have to use premium gasoline.

Right Lane Cruiser
04-10-2008, 10:31 PM
This does sound like quite the performer! I second Elixer's response. :D

bomber991
04-11-2008, 10:02 AM
With diesel national average at $4.06 and regular at $3.36, that makes regular gas (3.36/4.06) cost 82.8% of diesel. So a regular gas car only need 38mpg combined.

Except this is a Mercedes, so a regular gas car for them would probably use premium. $3.70 national average for that. 91.1% of the price of diesel. Only needs 41.9mpg on regular gas.

So can you expect people to pay a premium on the engine, and then another 8.9% premium on the price of the fuel? Well it does make money sense to go with the diesel doesn't it?

nash
04-11-2008, 10:19 AM
I'm wondering how the NEDC (New European Driving Cycle) numbers compare with the 2007 EPA (or the new 2008 EPA) MPG numbers?

I can't help but compare it to the TCH - the 2007 is rated 38/40MPG and fuel costs are comparable to a 46MPG diesel, and the TCH has a 0-60 time of 7.7 seconds (http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/oneyear/112_0610_2007_toyota_camry_hybrid/).

bomber991
04-11-2008, 11:25 AM
I'm wondering how the NEDC (New European Driving Cycle) numbers compare with the 2007 EPA (or the new 2008 EPA) MPG numbers?

I can't help but compare it to the TCH - the 2007 is rated 38/40MPG and fuel costs are comparable to a 46MPG diesel, and the TCH has a 0-60 time of 7.7 seconds (http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/oneyear/112_0610_2007_toyota_camry_hybrid/).

Me too, anyone know of a site like fueleconomy.gov but for the NEDC numbers?

bestmapman
04-11-2008, 10:11 PM
It will be interesting to see what happens when all these new diesels hit the US.

Bike123
04-11-2008, 11:10 PM
I'm not sure I would want a diesel right now. Not because of problems with diesel technology, or even the price of diesel, but possible upcoming shortages. This article http://www.energybulletin.net/42610.html explains why our diesel prices are so high and why it will be harder to decrease demand for diesel than for gasoline.

xcel
04-15-2008, 11:23 PM
Hi Nash:

___When ever I try and do a comparison, I use the old 1985 - 07 EPA (EPA-I) to compare to the NEDC. The Prius receives a 54.7 mpgUS combined on the NEDC and 55 mpgUS on the EPA-I. HCH-II receives 51.1 mpgUS on the NEDC and 50 mpgUS on the EPA-I.

___The upcoming C-Class’ 2.1L with a 46 mpgUS rating on the NEDC would be almost 20% greater than the TCH’s 39 mpgUS per the EPA-I.

___Good Luck

___Wayne



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