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tigerhonaker
05-21-2006, 07:55 PM
Honda sold only (320 Units) of the Insight in the first four months of this year.

Honda Kills the Insight

New hybrid vehicle to be developed, priced below current Civic Hybrid

By JAMES B. TREECE AND LINDSAY CHAPPELL | AUTOMOTIVE NEWS

AutoWeek | Published 05/17/06, 3:50 pm et


American Honda Motor Co. Inc. plans to kill the Insight hybrid this year.

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The small, two-seat Insight, introduced in the United States in 1999, sold only 320 units in the first four months of this year. That compares with sales of 30,357 for the competing Toyota Prius, a family sedan embraced by environmentalists.

"Production will stop in September of this year and be discontinued," Honda Executive Vice President Richard Colliver revealed Wednesday, May 17, in a teleconference from Torrance, Calif.

Colliver said Honda is developing a new hybrid that will be smaller than the current Civic. But the new model will not appear until 2009.

The vehicle will be "suitable for family use" and will be priced below the current Civic Hybrid, says Honda CEO Takeo Fukui.

Fukui outlined plans for the new hybrid model as well as for the sale of diesel-powered cars in North America and Japan during a press conference on Wednesday.

He also said Honda plans new vehicle plants in the United States and Japan, a new engine plant in Canada, and a speed-up in its expansion in India.

Fukui said the new hybrid model will be built at Honda's Suzuka, Japan, plant. Honda aims for worldwide sales of about 200,000, including 100,000 in North America.

400,000 hybrids/year

Honda expects to reach those sales volumes "within about two years after sales start," Fukui says. Together with Honda's other hybrid-powered nameplates, the carmaker's hybrid sales then will total almost 300,000 worldwide, he says.

The new hybrid will be sold only as a Honda, says Koichi Kondo, Honda's senior managing director and COO for North American operations. There will not be an Acura version.

Even though half of the new hybrid's sales will be in North America, Honda did not consider building it there, Kondo says. "But we may have to in the future," he adds.

Honda also is developing a cleaner, next-generation version of its 4-cylinder diesel engine. That engine has been sold in Europe since 2004. The new engine will be on the market within the next three years.

Fukui says the engine will be sold in the United States and Japan as well as Europe.

The new diesel aims to meet stringent pending regulations in Europe and Canada that effectively require NOx emissions equivalent to those of a gasoline engine.

Dual diesels

Honda also is developing a clean V-6 diesel engine. That will be an all-new engine not based on the current 4-cylinder diesel.

The new diesels are not planned specifically for either the Honda or Acura brand, and could go in either brand's vehicles, Kondo says.

Fukui repeated his view that hybrid powertrains are most appropriate for small cars, and clean diesels for medium- and large-size cars.

The hybrid models and the diesel-powered cars are part of Honda's goal of reducing the carbon dioxide emissions of its fleet.

In 2000 on a global basis, Honda cars and trucks averaged 179.5 grams of CO2 exhaust emissions per kilometer traveled, or about 11.6 ounces per mile. Despite increased sales of larger-sized vehicles such as SUVs and minivans, Honda reduced its average CO2 emissions by 5 percent during the five-year period up to 2005.

Honda now targets a further reduction of 5 percent or more. It thus aims to achieve a total reduction of 10 percent by 2010 compared to the 2000 level.

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SVOboy
05-21-2006, 08:01 PM
Will this new hybrid be the hybrid fit that is often talked about as recieving the insight's old guts?

xcel
05-21-2006, 08:15 PM
Hi SVOBoy:

___That used to be the rumor but that one has been recently killed by Honda exec’s all over the world. This new Hybrid will supposedly be an entirely separate platform although smaller then the Civic (Fit sure fit’s, doesn’t it ;)). I think Honda wants there own Halo car similar to the Prius in which it does not really compete against the Fit or Civic just as the Prius does not really compete with the Corolla or Camry.

___I would suspect a sleeker looking Fit (lowered and less top heavy Asian Honda - City maybe?) w/ a lower Cd, ~ the same weight as the Fit including the 1.3 and IMA right out of the HCH, ACE structure with fronts, sides, and side curtains standard, and even taller ratios given the smaller and lighter car. I would suspect they could achieve an easy EPA rated 55/55 rating in the thing if they can keep the weight down?

___Good Luck

___Wayne

Chuck
05-22-2006, 11:23 AM
I wish there was an easy way to get the production figures on the CRX HF that was built 1984-1992. I bet more than 14,000 were built. Of course that would be easier since a CRX HF started at about $11,000 as opposed to $20,000 for the Insight. There were no concerns about a hybrid powerplant and the SUV craze was not yet in full swing.

brick
05-22-2006, 12:45 PM
The funny thing about the HF is that I see more of those than I see Insights, one every week or two at least. They may be ancient by comparison but apparently durable as well!

Chuck
05-22-2006, 01:15 PM
Honda probably figured the Insight would sell better because it's essentially an aluminum bodied CRX HF with a hybrid power plant.

I regret not taking better care of my 1988 CRX HF - in good condition it could get 60mpg.



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