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The original Hummer (H1) will end production in June.

MSNBC Story (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/12758767/from/RS.1/)

How much longer till they ax the H2?

Good Riddance!

and they just figured this out now?....

I was not gloating in my 1st post, but.....

YES!!!

One gas guzzler down, no jobs lost over it. Sounds like a win-win!

CNN Article (http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/05/12/hummer.ap/index.html) with more content.

summbody's dancin' in the streets tonight, right DF?

What I'd like to have done to the H1's still on the road is to give the owner's a choice: sell them to the Pentagon for use in Iraq or "volunteer" to serve there in their H1. A lot of chicken hawks would be uncovered....

yeah, but the civvie H1s are too diffeerent. gas vs diesel, no key for ignition, suspension...

The issue of rollover first made national news in 1980 when CBS's 60 Minutes aired a report on the Jeep CJ, the model for many early SUVs. The report showed footage of an Insurance Institute of Highway Safety test in which the vehicle rolled over while executing a "J" turn (a sweeping right turn followed by a straight-on path) and during sudden evasive maneuvers, such as a quick turn to avoid an object in its path. Despite the rollover risk, Americans flocked to the Jeep. Other automakers, their sales slumping, took notice. :rolleyes:

Apparently the urge to be macho and powerful has been around from time immemorial, and the compulsion blocks safety concerns and any other sensibility. {sigh}

I presume the Humvee was built in part to address the rollover hazard.

Here is the rest of the article Frontline article on Rollovers (http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/rollover/unsafe/cron.html)

If I recall the 60 Minutes article was rigged to make the SUV's roll over and they got a black eye from that report.

If I recall the 60 Minutes article was rigged to make the SUV's roll over and they got a black eye from that report.

Sad that they would resort to doing that. :(

I'm of the conviction that the evidence SUV's are vunerable to rollovers is great enough that it's easy to report on it honestly.

You can get any car to roll over if you try hard enough. sure they may be more susceptable, but a few quick manuevers shouldn't roll one.

I presume the Humvee was built in part to address the rollover hazard.
Indeed it should have a low rollover risk, although a lot of it has to do with suspension design. The Humvee and H1 use a fully independant suspension with very good dynamic geometry. It's not really subject to the same kinds of problems as the old Corvair and VW Beetle swingarm suspension, nor does it have the same issues as live axle suspension like the Jeep and Bronco II.

Also, it's VERY wide for its height. The H1 is 86.5" wide and 79" high, so it has a height percentage of 91%. A 1988 Jeep Wrangler is just 66" wide, but listed as 70-72" tall. For the 72" version, that would be 109% as high as it is wide. Now there's no way to look up the height of the center of gravity for these vehicles, but you can be pretty certain that consumer vehicles have a higher CG and propensity to rollover than purpose built military designs.

Sometime ago, I did the "J turn" that is supposed to provoke a rollover. I've mentioned this in a previous post and have to admit to being very lucky the Insight and myself were unharmed by my stupidity. I did a sudden left turn assuming the SUV/Truck one-armed lean I loath. Panicked and did a right attempting to stabilize, but the Insight spun out and left the freeway backwards at 60mph and ended up in the access lane. :eek: Felt very lucky to be alive after that foolishness. I'd think there was a 90% chance I should have impacted something. Yes, I believe God was watching out for me.

In all seriousness, the "one armed lean" must account for a significant number of accidents. Being in a low vehicle, it spun out. I can see an inattentive large SUV/Truck driver overreact, then doing the "J turn" and fliping. In other words, poor driving accounts for some of these rollovers.

I still say that even those types of manuvers in an suv are likely to produce the same result as you experienced in your insight even with the higher center of gravity.

I don't even remember the last time I've seen an H1. They're getting axed because they're not selling, not the other way around. The H1 died a while ago, GM just admits it now.

A neighbor of mine around the block has an H1............It never leaves the driveway.

I noticed another neighbor replaced there H2 with a new H3, I guess the fuel prices were
getting to them but still not enough to relinquish there status symbols.

I go to the vending machine to decide which diet drink: Dr. Pepper or Coke?

I see this (http://www.drpepper.com/drive2/Registration/Web/Login.aspx).

Guess my pick? ;)