psyshack
07-03-2007, 09:23 PM
My youngest daughter and her husband just purchased a 04 Camry, I4, 5MT LE. It has steel wheels and covers. Black with Tan inside. It has 77k miles on it with some hail damage and scratched up to beat hell. They paid 12,500 for it at the local Chevy dealer.
I begged them not to buy it. I asked them to go get a Yaris with air bags or go for a Fit. Even a LX Civic or a deal on a new LX Accord. But they didnt. they got boned on the interest rate. I told her if she bought what dad wanted her to get we would co-sign the loan. But she wanted this car.
It drives out real well. No squeaks or rattles. Every thing works in it. I put the SG in it. Set to hybrid, 2.4l the rest default and ripped 45 mpg out of it on a 20 mile run.
I went to the dealer this evening and got her free oil changes for 2 years. I wouldn't have paid over $10k for the car. I kinda messed his head up with KBB. Told him straight up. Sir you screwed my youngest daughter. I did a bit of checking thru another person and found out indeed it was a female owned car. And that she did indeed trade it in on a Impala SS. All the scratches on the car point to female ownership. Drivers door handle and pocket are flat black from all the finger nial and jewelry. It has stupid scratchs on the top of the car and on the trunk lid from stuff being put on the car and draggedoff the car. Couple that with the hail damage
Back to driving the car. The drivers seat sucks!!!! Accord has much better seat. Even with the full power tilt and whirl it will do. Its a awful seat. The Accords seat is so much better it isnt funny. Of all the whiz bang it does have I dont know if it has ABS. And I tried 3 times to make it chatter the brake pedal. I didnt look under the hood. But I would bet,,, no ABS. Yota should be taken to the shed and punished by some of there stupid packaging they do. I did do some cornering in the car. It isnt a Accord in this area. Its a Buick LeSaber. Kind of a shame really. It rides like a Buick, no road noise and corners like a Buick. Afew corners I hit in the Accord. The Yota was wanting to complain at levels Ive not seen since my 92 Olds Delta 88.
Let me say I drove the car like a step child for the first 20 mile loop... Laid the coal to it. Then put the SG in it. It smoked the Accord FE wise. I give all of this to the 5 MT. 1200 to 2000 rpm shifts are effortless. Given the conditions. The 2.4L engine has the grunt to pull them off. You folks have no idea what Exel goes thru to push his 5AT Accord to the levels he lives buy. A MT makes all the diff. The car coast's out inbetween the Accord and the Civic. Its a good coaster!
Pro's
Great engine. A very straight up in your face lug loving animal. 5MT tranny,,, Shifts sooooo much better than my Civic or Ranger it isnt funny. NO syncro clash coming off fas. Butter sums it up. The clutch is also a work of art. Great combo. Ride if you want a Buick or Caddy is in there. Road noise I think is as good or better than a high end Acura. And better than any mid-size American sedan Ive driven in the last 10 years.
Con's
It corners like GM/Ford junk. Brakes are iffy. Seats are awful. Dash is light years behind Accord. << this is no joke. The Accords dash lay out, function and feel of controls are so much better. Yota should be worried about there failure here. It does do a dash better than a Chevy or Ford in its class. And I can see why folks buy this car over Accord. They are use to Junk.... The car is like driving what The big three refuse or cant build.
Its not a Accord by any stretch. A Accord is a drivers car. Camry is a car.
psy
I begged them not to buy it. I asked them to go get a Yaris with air bags or go for a Fit. Even a LX Civic or a deal on a new LX Accord. But they didnt. they got boned on the interest rate. I told her if she bought what dad wanted her to get we would co-sign the loan. But she wanted this car.
It drives out real well. No squeaks or rattles. Every thing works in it. I put the SG in it. Set to hybrid, 2.4l the rest default and ripped 45 mpg out of it on a 20 mile run.
I went to the dealer this evening and got her free oil changes for 2 years. I wouldn't have paid over $10k for the car. I kinda messed his head up with KBB. Told him straight up. Sir you screwed my youngest daughter. I did a bit of checking thru another person and found out indeed it was a female owned car. And that she did indeed trade it in on a Impala SS. All the scratches on the car point to female ownership. Drivers door handle and pocket are flat black from all the finger nial and jewelry. It has stupid scratchs on the top of the car and on the trunk lid from stuff being put on the car and draggedoff the car. Couple that with the hail damage
Back to driving the car. The drivers seat sucks!!!! Accord has much better seat. Even with the full power tilt and whirl it will do. Its a awful seat. The Accords seat is so much better it isnt funny. Of all the whiz bang it does have I dont know if it has ABS. And I tried 3 times to make it chatter the brake pedal. I didnt look under the hood. But I would bet,,, no ABS. Yota should be taken to the shed and punished by some of there stupid packaging they do. I did do some cornering in the car. It isnt a Accord in this area. Its a Buick LeSaber. Kind of a shame really. It rides like a Buick, no road noise and corners like a Buick. Afew corners I hit in the Accord. The Yota was wanting to complain at levels Ive not seen since my 92 Olds Delta 88.
Let me say I drove the car like a step child for the first 20 mile loop... Laid the coal to it. Then put the SG in it. It smoked the Accord FE wise. I give all of this to the 5 MT. 1200 to 2000 rpm shifts are effortless. Given the conditions. The 2.4L engine has the grunt to pull them off. You folks have no idea what Exel goes thru to push his 5AT Accord to the levels he lives buy. A MT makes all the diff. The car coast's out inbetween the Accord and the Civic. Its a good coaster!
Pro's
Great engine. A very straight up in your face lug loving animal. 5MT tranny,,, Shifts sooooo much better than my Civic or Ranger it isnt funny. NO syncro clash coming off fas. Butter sums it up. The clutch is also a work of art. Great combo. Ride if you want a Buick or Caddy is in there. Road noise I think is as good or better than a high end Acura. And better than any mid-size American sedan Ive driven in the last 10 years.
Con's
It corners like GM/Ford junk. Brakes are iffy. Seats are awful. Dash is light years behind Accord. << this is no joke. The Accords dash lay out, function and feel of controls are so much better. Yota should be worried about there failure here. It does do a dash better than a Chevy or Ford in its class. And I can see why folks buy this car over Accord. They are use to Junk.... The car is like driving what The big three refuse or cant build.
Its not a Accord by any stretch. A Accord is a drivers car. Camry is a car.
psy