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Hi All:

___I missed that Monday was a new week ;)

___I hit the snooze one to many times and had to push it. Absolutely no traffic in 47 - 54 degree temps, 5 mph side wind w/ a 52 mph average yielded 49.2 into the lot. Forced to work the night shift so she hasn't moved all day/night ...

___Good Luck

___Wayne

Back to the grind. I can't remember the last time I had 3 days off in a row. It was enjoyable.

75.5 MPG this morning at 64F. The EV button once again did its job. On the last stretch of 300-400 yards where historically the ICE runs because of traffic and a red light, she was running silent, and the trip MPG went up by 2.

68F and misting. Light winds:

1) 45.1mpg for 25.5mi (Home to work -- might have been a little higher but had FAS messed up by traffic)

The tank is currently at 41.8mpg for 374mi (376mi ODO) and it claims I've used 8.9g so far. That looks reasonably close as the fuel gauge is at about 3/8ths or so.

We'll see what I can do this afternoon when FASing the heck out of my commute.

76.6mpg (that might have been 83) starting late and catching a wreck scene. :( As I passed the sports car in the accident area, could not resist bellowing "I had to kick BUTT!". :p

carpooler today.
77.7 mpg in to work.
I'm certain without car pooler it would have been in the 90's. Dang.
Well at least it's $2 from her each way for the ride.

Working at a software company that supports public schools, I had to work yesterday. It's the end of the school year, and they're all trying to get the accounting up to date.

Yesterday AM: 69F - 58mpg - 10.8 miles
Yesterday PM: 87F - 57.5mpg - 11 miles
Today AM: 71F - 52.7mpg - 10.6 miles with some drizzle

I don't wanna be here at work today:( wife offered for me to play hookey and ...:D
but well darn it we do have to get paid to get food, mortgage, etc. etc. Cooler this morning, tried a couple new spots for P&G with the Ranger AT, some worked, some didn't, ended up with a tie for best at 25.1mpg for 11.3 miles. Oh, yeah the fill up yesterday yielded a 23.6 for the tank, was mostly my brother driving, so he did a nice job, mostly divided highway.

My tank is down around 57.5 MPG. The wife, dog, and I went to the mountains this weekend. That means highway driving. And A/C. I'll see if I can get it back up to 60 MPG by fill-up.

65.6 MPG this morning.

fooey, back to work. filled up at half a tank since i was going there to get coffee anyhow. i was disappointed to get 57.984 when the display read 61.5. oh well. better than the truck parked in front of me, a dodge something with a sticker on the window reading "red neck woman". she just kept filling and filling.....

yesterday i was on the back roads going to the riding stable, and realized that a lot of the peasants chose that road for their return trip from the lake. even going the speed limit, i got passed a lot.......usually by pick trucks pulling boats.

this morning as i pulled out of the gas station, i saw one of those HUGE traveling houses that people take on vacation, pulling a 4x4 pickup.......and yesterday it was a trucking pulling a fifth wheel trailer pulling a boat. there must be a lot of people in central minnesota who make a lot more money than i do.........sheesh :eek:

I did it! Filled up Saturday night, and for the first time I'm over 60mpg. 62.63 to be exact. Also trying a new route to work this morning. Looks like I may be able to get another 8-10mpg going this way. Drawback is an extra 10 minutes to get to work but only 1.2 extra miles so should be worth it. We will see. (hope my wife wont mind leaving 10 minutes earlier though) As a side note, I was talking to my Mom yesterday morning and she was complaining about the price of gas and the poor mpg her pt cruiser was getting. I told her how much my wife and I like our Prius, soooo............she called me back last night and she had gone out and traded her cruiser for an 07 silver Prius!!!!!! WAY TO GO, MOM! Now I know why I'm so smart (LOL).

Great job, madman!

I ran a couple errands while at lunch today. 65.6 MPG. The exact same as my morning commute. If I can match that on the trip home, it will be a personal best. I will also start thinking there's something wrong with my SG. LOL.

fooey, back to work. filled up at half a tank since i was going there to get coffee anyhow. i was disappointed to get 57.984 when the display read 61.5. oh well. better than the truck parked in front of me, a dodge something with a sticker on the window reading "red neck woman". she just kept filling and filling.....

yesterday i was on the back roads going to the riding stable, and realized that a lot of the peasants chose that road for their return trip from the lake. even going the speed limit, i got passed a lot.......usually by pick trucks pulling boats.

this morning as i pulled out of the gas station, i saw one of those HUGE traveling houses that people take on vacation, pulling a 4x4 pickup.......and yesterday it was a trucking pulling a fifth wheel trailer pulling a boat. there must be a lot of people in central minnesota who make a lot more money than i do.........sheesh :eek:

"Red Neck Woman??" LOL I'm from SC and I know what a red neck woman is. I've yet to see any up here. ;)

I second the money thing. Either that or they are way more convincing at the bank than I could ever be. I don't know how people can live with so much debt...

Say, if you are disappointed with your mileage come drive my car for a bit. I promise to baby your car while it isn't in your hands! Pretty please?? :D

I just remembered something from yesterday! Going up a hill, engine off and coasting, I passed a Ford Extravaganza that was chugging away. That felt good. ;)

Another one: Little white-haired lady in a Cadillac passes me, all impatient-like. :confused:

Hi Madman:

___You received two presents on the same day … Way to go and congrats from the rest of us!

___Laurie, 57 + and your complaining ;)

___Sean, just keep working it!

___SlowHands, you ready for that clinic yet? Dump the AT and go with the 5 speed ;)

___Andrew, you are really starting to push that Civic, aren’t you :D

___76 - 88 degrees F w/ 5 - 10 mph side/headwinds. 61.4 into the drive.

___Good Luck

___Wayne

Wayne, I'd do it tomorrow, but first game for Girl's softball is tomorrow night, and will have my hands full with trying to figure out lineup and drinks and snacks and such. Thursday works for me, just tell me what time(s) are good for you, and I'll make something happen.

Hi SlowHands:

___I start afternoons on Thursday and right into nights with a ton of forces in between so over the next 2 weeks other then tomorrow, I am screwed :(

___Good Luck and enjoy the ball game. Sounds a lot more fun then tooling around the suburbs with this CleanMPG member ;)

___Wayne

Well, Wayne, you said work it... so I did. ;)

Temp at 80F, partly overcast, not much wind to speak of:

1) 50.9mpg for 35.4mi (Work to home)

Now that's more like it! :Banane43:

I saw it peak at just over 53mpg on the way. Much higher would take quite some doing at the current SG offset, and I lucked out on the 252 debacle today. I'm still hoping there is some overcompensation going on here. I leave early all this week so I should be able to pull some decent numbers on the way home through the end of this tank, but the mornings are toast unless I can get the headlight thing licked.

According to the SG I've got 42.5mpg for 409mi (411.9mi ODO) with 4.4g left (out of 14). Still sitting above the 1/4 mark by a bit.

The drive home was horrendous... malfunctioning traffic lights at 83 and 64... backed up traffic on 83 for a long long way. Tried to take KennyRoute1 straight up 83 after that mess to see how that was, not sure because of the crawl before 64, ended up at 22.3mpg for 11.3 miles.

16.6 @ 55.1 Around town on vacation
67.6 @ 56.6 Drive home into headwind
10.7 @ 75.1 Around town at home
14.3 @ 75.4 Drive in Monday

As of this week I'm now reporting SGII numbers instead of FCD numbers. The FCD numbers are still reported on excel since I have to enter them anyway. But the daily DG posts will hopefully just be SG.

Highway driving is still a problem and I need to come up with a good way to break 60 consistently on the hwy. Still working on it.

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Highway driving is still a problem and I need to come up with a good way to break 60 consistently on the hwy. Still working on it.

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Me, TOO!! :p

I had a few good segments that helped me over the 70 mpg mark for the day.
1) 52.7-8.8 miles(home to wife's work)
2) 70.2-9.6(wife's work to my work)
3) 75.5-9.6(my work to wife's work)
4) 82.2-6.3(wife's work to home)
5) 84.6-5.2(home to daughter's school)
6) 110-5.5(daughter's school to home)
7) 90.0-4.9(home to daughter's voice lessons)
8) 77.7-3.0(took voice teacher's husband on demo drive-he want's one now:))
9) 72.6-4.8(voice lessons to home)
10) 56.7-5.0(home to daughter's 8 th grade graduation-she got perfect attendance for all 3 years of middle school:D)
11) 82.3-5.5(graduation to home)
Average for today: 73.3 I had several occasions where the enginge wanted to run for no apparent reason; engine was warmed up, battery was 5-6 bars, no A/C, and no fan but would not go into glide.:confused:

I had several occasions where the enginge wanted to run for no apparent reason; engine was warmed up, battery was 5-6 bars, no A/C, and no fan but would not go into glide.:confused:
Welcome to the world of sometimes-baffling Prius idiosyncracies. The covering on the middle of my steering wheel is slightly pushed in on the right side from where I once banged my fist on it after repeatedly experiencing the same behavior. (Probably lucky the air bag didn't deploy.) As happens occasionally, it was far enough into the trip and the ICE temp was high enough for it to be in S4 operation, but it was clearly S3 behavior. One reason I finally put the EV switch in: I don't need a fractured hand.:p

I had a few good segments that helped me over the 70 mpg mark for the day.
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Average for today: 73.3

Geez, Larry! The fun just doesn't stop coming, does it!

Question for you -- how much EV are you running with these trips? Or is it mostly foot modulated gliding?

Great job on getting interest from the voice teacher's husband -- and congrats to your daughter!

Well this week will be on to remember in the Tony Memoirs. I, Wayne Mitchell, Grossinger Toyota and the Chicago Prius Group got our first hate mail. Not really mail, per se, but apparently someone decided to write a commentary/opinion piece/letter to the editor in the Chicago Sun Times. I haven't seen it yet so I don't know for sure, but supposedly this guy "Jerry Smith" attacked me and Wayne (Mitchell) for suggesting over-inflating tires and blocking the grill as irresponsible and reckless. Grossinger is guilty of being irresponsible for hosting the Chicago Prius Group event in which a group of people suggested such techniques to other drivers and Toyota should not endorse such things.

He not only wrote this and submitted it to the Chicago Sun-Times, he must have also sent a copy to Toyota Corporate because they contacted Grossinger.

So if anyone here has a daily subscription to the Chicago Sun-Times and has not recycled their last week's copies, I'd love to get ahold of this piece so I can formulate a formal rebuttal.

Other than that, I'm about 100 miles from a refill and hope to breach 64MPG on this tank. A personal record.

Hi Tony:

___Where can I reply to this dunce anyway? Let me at him, let me at him!

___Good Luck

___Wayne

Tony,

I hope this malcontent also spends his energy on

Speeders
Distracted drivers
DUI
Road RageI'm sure this guy whoever he is a model driver rather than an aggressive driver that may feel threatened. ;)

My favorite 11.5 mile commute this evening. :D

101 / 11.5 miles / 77F
77.7 / 11.5 miles / 72F

The day's average was 87.8 over 23.0 miles.

The tank crossed a new mark - 78.0 / 635 miles / 1 pip. 635 miles is already a tank record (and the 78 is by a whole lot). :eek: :D

My son texted me his results today in the new HCH. He drove about 90 miles round trip to do interviews for a dvd that he is producing and got 56.2mpg. I had just talked to him about the "tricks" so I was happy that he had absorbed some of it.

I have finally met my goal! I fueled up today after a 540.9-mile tank, of which 230 miles was a round trip to Sacramento, CA. That is not what any of us would call a nice, easy highway trip for there was one section of fire at the State line between Nevada and California that held us up for a while and was only 1-lane due to heavy equipment for fighting the fire, 2 construction zones that shut down to 1 lane for miles at a time, and the usual climb from Reno at 4,500ft. to Donner Pass at 9,300ft. followed by the drop down to sea level. Not only is I-80 in totally crappy shape in this stretch but you have to climb from sea level back up over Donner Pass on the way back.

Anyway, after piling on much more mileage since then I finally got around to filling up on the way home today and it took 10.383 gallons.

Yes, boys and girls, this means I have finally beat 50 MPG with my Yaris! The exact calculation is 52.095 MPG!

:woot:

:driveby:

Congratulations, Brian! That's quite an accomplishment given all the bad road conditions you had to deal with! I can't imagine how you'd do with a mostly flat environment. :eek:

I tried going a little easier on the route in this morning... it got me up to 42.5mpg pretty quickly but I ended up only getting 0.1mpg better than yesterday morning. I think it is time for a route rework, or some fiddling with wires -- or both.

Temp was 64F, no wind:

1) 45.2mpg for 25.5mi (Home to work)

Tank is reading 42.6mpg over 435mi (437.6mi ODO) with estimated 3.8g left. I'm still a couple of needle widths over 1/4 tank so I should be good through tomorrow and probably Friday as well -- unless of course I get some mileage I'm not expecting.

Discovered yesterday that with no one around I can get the car rolling from my slot, cut out the engine, and coast out the lot, down the slight hill, around the corner, and past the building without firing up again. The no one around situation is pretty rare when I normally leave, but it is nice to know!

How do you guys get the SG to fire up without turning on the engine in a non-hybrid? :confused: Mine doesn't seem to want to turn on until I fire up the engine. If I could push it out of the lot I would (when there isn't any traffic, of course)...

80.5 MPG on the a.m. commute, temp at about 60F.

14.2 @ 78.4 @ 88 degF

New PB on the RT (around 77). Really had a near perfect drive home. Got caught on one light but the rest fell right into place. Also had one of Larry's failed glides. I've been questioning if higher RPMs prior to the glide failure might help. One thing I also noticed is if I leave the car in regen for about 2-3 seconds (blue lines) I sometimes eventually get the cut out. Think the trick is to pulse up to 66 kph, if glide fails regen down to 55 kph. If the engine hasn't cut by then, all hope is lost and you might as well NICE-on.

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Well, my SG isn't broken. I did not get 65.6 MPG on my trip home yesterday. I did set a personal best with 66.1 MPG! I ran some errands last night and finished up the day with 65.9 MPG.

67.8 MPG at 64ºF this morning. I was hoping for better, but I hit some unexpected red lights. Oh well.

I've been riding my bikes a lot lately and my wife has been borrowing my car while the mechanics diagnose some problem with her Saturn LW300...we went for a trip on Sunday in it and the ECU would start going crazy whenever the engine was at idle -- reduced power, cylinder misfiring, etc. The only thing that seemed to help was to idle as little as possible: DWL to stay on the gas going downhill :), but also stay on it when stopping :(. My wife found it ironic that she was forced to use hypermiling techniques just to keep her car alive. Unfortunately, she hasn't yet been able to replicate the problem for the mechanics.

I needed some rest this morning, so she stopped by and let me drive to work with her and a fully warmed-up engine, then she took off with the car for the day. Segments of 48/40/52 MPG at 55°F for 15.4 miles.

This tank will have relatively low mileage, but that's life.

86mpg, before I stopped to shop, then ended with 82 at work.

53.9 home last night
55.4 this morning

Congrats Bailout -- I know you've been waiting to hit that mark and you slammed it hard on a tough trip. Welcome to hybrid country ;)

My first morning back at work -- peaked at 71+mpg on the way in and ended up at 69.3 (19 miles). Bleary-eyed but could crack a smile.

14.1 mi @ 74.3 mpg @ 81 degF

Commute in today was fine... forgot my laptop on the drive in, so I was a few pounds lighter :eek: Since adding those 10 # to the tires, the 70's seem to be all but a given. Now my wagon wheels are sitting at 57 (only cuz my tire gauge only reads up to 60).

I've also clipped out the AP article and made a mileage board out of it.

Article to the left and three post-it's to the right. They are posted in three boxes I've drawn on the board:

Today's Commute:
Previous Commute:
Best Commute:

Today the post-it's read 74.3 mpg, 75.4 mpg, 78.6 mpg

That should get their attention!

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OK, I'm ready to start posting here now that I got my new ScanGauge working in time for last night's commute. :Banane06: See my separate thread (http://www.cleanmpg.com/forums/scan-gauge/t-attn-subaru-owners-trouble-with-your-scangauge-heres-the-fix-4815.html) about getting it to work in my '96 Subaru.

Note: most days, my commute involves driving my son 5 miles to daycare, parking the car and biking the remaining 7.5 miles.

Yesterday evening: 35.1 mpg. 350' net elevation loss. 85F, dry, 15mph headwind. Traffic: none. FAS: about 1 mile downhill.
This morning: 25.3 mpg. 350' net elevation gain. 63F, dry, 5mph headwind. Traffic: 2 minutes stop and go. FAS: about .5 miles downhill.


How do you guys get the SG to fire up without turning on the engine in a non-hybrid? :confused: Mine doesn't seem to want to turn on until I fire up the engine. If I could push it out of the lot I would (when there isn't any traffic, of course)...Are you turning the key all the way to the "Run" position? My SGII gomes on when I do this even though I haven't hit the starter yet.

Sean- If you haven't already tried this, go into the set-up of the SG and under fuel type, select the Hybrid selection and see if that helps.

So far, today has been so-so for FE. Temps are in the upper 80's and they started out at ~70F. I have 2 more segments for the day but here are the numbers so far:
1) 57.1-5.8 miles(home to wife's work)
2) 70.1-9.6(wife's work to my work)
3) 33.9-1.1(my work to pick up my mom)
4) 70.4-9.9(my mom's to the wife's work)
5) 66.4-7.6(wife's work to grocery store)
6) 61.3-12.0(grocery store to mom's)
7) 101-5.1(mom's to home)

How do you guys get the SG to fire up without turning on the engine in a non-hybrid? :confused: Mine doesn't seem to want to turn on until I fire up the engine. If I could push it out of the lot I would (when there isn't any traffic, of course)...I think the setting your looking for is "FUEL". Set it to "Hybrid" even in a non-hybrid. I thought I recall that the only thing this does is let SGII power up without the engine one. It will auto-power-off if you have the ignition totally off for 10-15 seconds (ie no AC no ACII).

Just give it a shot for a drive and let me know if it works.

For me today... I think I'm going to go the rest of the week without my SGII. I have a friend who is interested and really the only way to show this stuff to him is with a SGII, so I'm gonna loan it out.

I might end up just get a second SGII one of these days to loan out to friends to try to turn them.

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Are you turning the key all the way to the "Run" position? My SGII gomes on when I do this even though I haven't hit the starter yet.

Yes, I have it in run position but my SGI doesn't turn on the display until I actually start the engine. Maybe I'm not waiting long enough -- I'll try waiting longer tomorrow morning to see what happens.

Dan and Larry, thanks for the hint but I've had it on hybrid from day one...

Larry, you and your so-so numbers!! Come on, shape up!! :p ;)

Guys, I'm making up ground!

Today the temp is at 81F, overcast, 15-20mph wind N -- which happened to be at my back!

Traffic was light enough I was able to do even more FASing on the surface roads leading to the highway today -- saw as high as 44mpg before even hitting the highway! I did lose about 3/10ths mpg when I got to my neighborhood and had to stop for the bus and kids, then the garage door wouldn't open. :mad:

Anyway, here are the numbers:

1) 52.4mpg for 35.4mi (Work to home) :woot:

I saw 54.9mpg during the drive! :Banane44:

SG tells me the tank is at 43.2mpg for 470mi (473.4mi ODO) and that I've got 3.1g left. The fuel gauge is sitting just a tad under 1/4 tank, but that might rise a little as I get back on the road and start moving; the gauge in this car is pretty sensitive to position of the vehicle.

As a side note, I was showing the menu system on the SG to a friend at work who just purchased a SGII (after I told him about it :)) and finally discovered the speed offset adjustment! Now I can tweak those drifting distances!! Looks like I can do that at any time and not mess up my numbers elsewhere?

I actually have to set the speed adjustment to +2% for the SG and the car's odometer to match. The SG and car seem to be right on with some of the segments I have measured on Google Earth. Yes, you can change that at any time but, if it's by very much, you may want to take that into account when you figure the mileage at the end of the tank.

I'll try to bring those FE numbers up to more respectable levels when I pick my daughter up from Youth group later on.:p

I actually have to set the speed adjustment to +2% for the SG and the car's odometer to match. The SG and car seem to be right on with some of the segments I have measured on Google Earth. Yes, you can change that at any time but, if it's by very much, you may want to take that into account when you figure the mileage at the end of the tank.

Great! I'll have to figure up what my adjustment should be -- rough guess with my current numbers from the SG and ODO give 473.4/470 = 1.007 or about 0.7% offset?

My tanks are all calculated with just the ODO and what the pump tells me, so I'm safe on the mileage for that.

I'll try to bring those FE numbers up to more respectable levels when I pick my daughter up from Youth group later on.:p

:D

Hi All:

___I went out with SlowHands on a clinic this morning in his 96 Ranger P/U. He pulled a 27.3 for the Torture cycle. 38.3 for my RT’er. We went out for the clinic and he pulled in at … I forgot. He took his final exam and got jammed after 2 HS Pulses at lights. Full on brakes from 45 + to 0 not once but twice :angry: Totally unlucky and I told him to do it :ccry: He still managed to improve by 5% for the final exam. He already had a great handle on all the basics …

___I went out with a video guy from one of the local Chicago papers for a clinic this afternoon in the Accord. He didn’t want to drive with a HiDef Video camera in one hand I guess :D 82 - 85 degrees with a 15 - 20 mph head wind out and the same only tail wind back. Drove down the Edens (Rt. 41 north of Chicago) to the Kennedy (I90/94 into the City), turned around at Irving Park, back out to the Tri-State (I-294 west of Chicago) and back home through the death turn and all. 54.3 into the drive for a 58’ish actual. 1026 miles out and still 2 ticks of 20 on the gauge …

___Good Luck

___Wayne

Been on vacation this week hanging out with my mother. I did have to get out and drive some today. 12 miles of small town driving was good for 48 mpg. I will call it city driving. :)

psy

I just got back from another PR segment.:) Here are the last 2 segments for my day.
8) 61.4-5.2 miles( failed glide attempts for most of the trip:mad:)
9) 152-5.2(much better!:D)
Average for today:70.8
http://www.cleanmpg.com/photos/data/500/medium/100_0639.JPG

I'm new here, but set two new personal records today. Highest automotive tire pressure --44PSI in my 03 Ranger and highest amount paid at pump --$137.47 for diesel the GMC HD truck I drive from time to time at work (glad I don't have to pay for it.) The Ranger had own ideas about engine off coming home--stalled repeatedly at idle in uphill traffic jam--truck apparently cut off fuel flow when clutch was in /foot off gas(and on brake) and didn't turn it back on in until it was too late to save the idle, though sometimes RPM would go to 0 and then bounce back up to 700 at the last sec. Could it be related to E10 I switched to yesterday? Problem healed itself later in the drive.

I just got back from another PR segment.:) Here are the last 2 segments for my day.
8) 61.4-5.2 miles( failed glide attempts for most of the trip:mad:)
9) 152-5.2(much better!:D)
Average for today:70.8

Holy Carp, Larry! Maybe I should challenge you more often??? :eek:

Wayne... can I borrow some of that mojo?

I had to run to the store because of a busted super pump on the pool (AKA MONEY SINK HOLE), and during evening rush hour I was hosed. Fortunately it wasn't far, but I forgot the dang pump and had to turn around and get it for the first trip (didn't start over the trip). It is amazing the effect just a few miles on the low end has on the tank average. :(

Temp 67F and raining. No appreciable wind:

1) 29.0mpg for 4.3mi (Home to part way up the road to home to Blue Fin)
2) 33.2mpg for 2.3mi (Blue Fin to home)

Lost 3/10th mpg for the tank -- down to 42.9mpg for 477mi (480.1mi ODO) :p

I put in a +1% offset on the speed so we'll see if the mileage difference between the SG and the ODO holds steady now.

--$137.47 for diesel the GMC HD truck I drive from time to time at work (glad I don't have to pay for it.)Man are we glad your here. If we can improve your fuel efficiency just 10% you'll end up saving more gas than all of us combined. Tom keeps a running tab of how much gas the combined efforts or all the members represents. As of this post it's 61088 gallons and counting.

Welcome, and keep us posted..

Well now for my efforts

14.2 mi @ 69.5 mpg @ 77 degF

Poor luck all round... I get to time some lights, but others are timed on cross traffic so it's always a crap-shoot. Got shut out of most every light. It was cool enough that the mile 9 water pump failed my glide again (almost forgot about that last 2 weeks). Plus it was raining just enough that I had to keep the windows up. Thought I had it on fan, but found out at the end of the trip I'd been running the compressor the whole time. Ohh well, means my luck will be good and recharged.

Friend ducked out before I gave him my SGII, so I guess I get to keep it. Since Laurie's article hit I put up a scoreboard of my mileage with the reprint of the article from our local paper. When people ask "How's it going" (typical small talk) I usually replay "62.5 and climbing" where the number is my weeks average mileage.

Feels good being officially nuts as opposed to just marginally odd.

PS.. stay tuned for my data dumps moving to my CleanMPG blog. I'll post them to DG on Sunday.

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Filled up today at 73.8 / 554 miles. We take off tomorrow to College Station to throw my folks a surprise 40th wedding anniversary (awwwww :) ).

The AC hit is starting to take a toll on the ride home. The tint & windshield guard help a lot, but mainly just to allow me to never have to go above the lowest AC level. Today I shut it down from time to time, and couldn't last more than a few minutes. The ice vest has been transferred to the morning ride in, as it helps avoid the fan entirely in 70-75 temps. But 95? Forget about it. It's a water bubble vest 10 minutes in.

Locutus, phenomenal 78. Larry, good god. :) Everybody else nice job and keep up the great work in the press!

Yes, I have it in run position but my SGI doesn't turn on the display until I actually start the engine. Maybe I'm not waiting long enough -- I'll try waiting longer tomorrow morning to see what happens.

Dan and Larry, thanks for the hint but I've had it on hybrid from day one...So I take it hybrid mode works OK on non-hybrid cars, and makes the SGII work better if you FAS? Good, because here's what I got on the way home tonight:

24.4 mpg. 350' net elevation loss. 85F, dry, side wind 12mph. Minimal traffic. At least 1.5 miles of ICE-off gliding.

With all that gliding I should have exceeded last night's 35mpg. But my SGII indicated that my drive was only 3.1 miles! It's actually somewhat over 5 (5.2, I think), so I think the SGII didn't register my FAS distance at all. That would put the actual mileage closer to 41 mpg.

I'll put it in hybrid mode tomorrow and see if it works better while gliding with ICE-off.

___I went out with SlowHands on a clinic this morning in his 96 Ranger P/U. He pulled a 27.3 for the Torture cycle. 38.3 for my RT’er. We went out for the clinic and he pulled in at … I forgot. He took his final exam and got jammed after 2 HS Pulses at lights. Full on brakes from 45 + to 0 not once but twice :angry: Totally unlucky and I told him to do it :ccry: He still managed to improve by 5% for the final exam. He already had a great handle on all the basics …


Part of what also stuffed the clinic and the final exam was that the notorious 'Ford Starter Solenoid Wire Corrosion Syndrome' set in several times and could not key start, we got stuck at one light where Wayne ended up showing the world that a hypermiler will even bodily push a Ranger uphill if necessary :eek: It also meant that for the rest of that run I had to idle the engine at the red lights (the horror!) The wire puked on me on the way to one of the job sites this morning, I was lucky to be at a slight downhill when the light changed and bump started, and used the 'potential parking' later to head to Wayne's. Fixed it twice at his place: sort of I don't fit so good under a Ranger :o I think at one point during the clinic before disaster struck I was up over 36mpg :D On the way back to work, traffic was horrendous and I didn't even want to look at the scangauge back at work. From work to home new PR: 34.2 for 11.2 miles (heh an old doggie learned a couple of new tricks today... Thank YOU Wayne! )

End of the Day: New PR: 30.9mpg for 192 miles! :Banane17:

Larry - Oh Oh Oh Oh Oh OOOOOHHHHH!

81.3 MPG this morning, 64F. Another best for this commute. The EV switch is doing its job.

So I take it hybrid mode works OK on non-hybrid cars, and makes the SGII work better if you FAS?

Yes, it does -- it will count the miles while the engine is off (as long as your key is in the on position). Be warned though... due to the slow bus reset the SG will remember the last instantaneous mpg for up to 5s or so and apply it to the still updating miles. That means that if you are accelerating and cut out the engine for your glide without waiting for it to settle down to an idle first, you'll have an erroneous application of whatever bad mpg you get when accelerating until the bus finishes reseting and you start getting real data again. If you let it idle for just a moment at least you'll get the higher number associated with NICE ON coasting for that timeframe -- then it should kick up to 9999 (as close to infinity as the SG can manage) for the rest of your engine off time.

Nice job, SlowHands! Keep working it and you'll be returning mid-thirties in no time!

I didn't do as well this morning. I left a bit later, got stuck at a few extra lights, and the traffic was a little pushier.

Temperature this morning was somewhat cooler at 55F, overcast and no wind:

1) 44.6mpg for 25.7mi (Home to work)

Can't tell yet if the distance is still slipping because there are no decimals and I don't know if the SG is truncating or rounding (though my trip distance went up by .2mi). Tank is currently back up to 43.1mpg over 502mi (505.6mi ODO) and SG claims I have 2.3g left. I'm a little under 1/4 tank still so I've got a bit to go yet.

Wayne -- you mentioned something about not relying on pump and click stop to get the tank full in this (http://www.cleanmpg.com/forums/fuel-economy/t-higher-speed-non-hybrid-pg-techniques-page3-4764.html) thread -- could you please elaborate? Thanks! :D

I woke up at 4am to the sound of the dog vomiting on the floor. It was not a good way to wake up. Needless to say, I was not fully functional this morning. The Prius felt my pain, but was also not fully functional. Or maybe it was overly functional. The ICE kept running. :confused: For no reason. :mad: It was a tough morning. 67.2 MPG at 64ºF.

Is there a dancing banana that yawns? I need one of those in this post. ;) (The wink means I'm half asleep.)

If you go and hit any buttons on the Scangauge, it'll wake it up. Try that.

54.9 / 11.3 miles home last night.
This morning... 61.1 mpg / 10 miles / 67F!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :eek::woot:

By far a record!

Tank's at 56.5 / 176 miles

Tried a change on the route, partly as an instantaneous alternate to a overstuffed left turn lane that would mean I wouldn't get through on that green light. Lost some mpg today from a couple of 40-0 stops, and was chicken to kill the ICE because of key start paranoia. Later I got stupid / brave / forgot and had a few long glides to red lights, and was able to key start ok. Ended up with 31.0 mpg for 10.2 miles on the way in. Tank is at 31.0 mpg.

PaleM..... wow, very nice!

Hi Sean:

___I think the following three pics represent exactly what I was talking about ;)

http://www.cleanmpg.com/photos/data/500/Prius_II_Marathon_Attempt_-_Fillup_I.jpg
Prius Marathon Attempt

http://www.cleanmpg.com/photos/data/516/Maybe_a_2_5_gallon_vapor_recovery_fill.JPG
Tour De Sol

http://www.cleanmpg.com/photos/data/530/Topped_Off.JPG
Insight Marathon

___The real question most should be asking right now is who in their right mind would take pics of a gasoline fill ;)

___Larry, that was beyond what SuperMan could do :D

___Dan, I am looking at your 1 month numbers and wow, you are running just a touch behind the leaders with some higher speeds to boot!

___WriConsult, yes, hybrid mode is definitely needed for anybody that FAS’. I think I am going to call Ron and have him consider programming all SG-II’s with Hybrid mode as default given those that do not FAS will have accurate readings and those that do will as well. I do not see a reason for GAS and HYBRID modes when HYBRID takes care of both?

___Ken, it was great to meet you and you have indeed picked it up!

___Jim, 81? Can you hold both on the RT because if you can, SOB, I smell a record tank coming in for you! When looking at your logs, it appears that you were shot from a cannon but you are so quiet about it! Talk about stealth :angel:

___Michael, a ho hum 64 with adversity? You did quite well for yourself ;)

___Andrew, now you are firing on all Cylinders. SOB, 61 in an older non lean burn Civic? Jeesshhhh!!!

___Good Luck

___Wayne

I was waiting for those pictures to surface. :)

Hi Psy:

___Who would have thought those 3 would surface as much as they have ;)

___Good Luck

___Wayne

Hi Psy:

___Who would have thought those 3 would surface as much as they have ;)

___Good Luck

___Wayne

I'm... uh.. wow. :eek:

Okay, I'll try that but man, you must be really trickling to get that level with no spill!! I'll have to do two fills this time for transition -- one to the first click to keep with what I've been doing so I can calculate mileage using the old level, then to the overflowing point. It'll be interesting to see how much more will go in when I do that.

Hope I don't sneeze sparks or anything...

Jim, 81? Can you hold both on the RT because if you can, SOB, I smell a record tank coming in for you! When looking at your logs, it appears that you were shot from a cannon but you are so quiet about it! Talk about stealth :angel:
RT is tough. A lot more traffic at 5:30 p.m. than at 6:30 a.m. Using the EV button in the morning seems pretty straightforward, but I'm still experimenting with it while I work through the evening rush hour. I've gotten in the mid-70s the last two evenings.

For various reasons related to driving conditions, this tank didn't start as well as the past two. It was in the mid-60s after about 100 miles. I'm up over 70 now at ~400 miles with 4 pips left. I should keep nudging it up, though I doubt it will be a record. But look out for the next one! My goal will be 75.

This morning I swung by the DMV to pick up my new plates (I'll have photos soon) so I was a little late heading up the mountain. When I reached the first set of hairpin turns on a 6% grade there was a work crew smack in between turns 1 and 2 and I got stopped just before 1. This means I had to climb through this section from a standstill which made my FE suck even worse than usual through this section.

While I was still mentally cussing this event and I was about 1/2 way up the mountain I got stuck behind a row of about 20 vehicles all moving about 30 MPH (the speed limit on the mountain is 50 MPH and it has only one lane in each direction). After a few miles of this we hit one of the few straighter stretches of the road and I was able to see one of those flatbed roofing trucks up front.

I'm not sure why he was going so slow as he only had one pallet of roofing materials on board but I noticed that each time we passed one of the slow vehicle turnouts people would flash him with their brights and honk at him but he just kept going. What a jerk. I ended up with at least another dozen vehicles behind me, 2 of which were semis with 28-foot trailers who looked just as impatient as everyone else.

Throughout this whole time my MPG was just going to hell in a hand basket. I was still able to maintain about 29 MPG (it's pretty much a constant 3-6% grade) but the trick is that it's taking me nearly twice as long to get up the mountain as it should, so I'm stuck at that low MPG that much longer.

Finally, when the convoy reached the summit, I saw his right blinker go on and he pulled off the road and into the parking lot by the public rest rooms (it's only 20 miles over the mountain but lots of people get nervous on this drive so the State keeps bathrooms there for those with weak tummies). As I got closer I started to notice a stream of fluid on the road and it led right to that guy's trailer hitch. When I came round the bend in front of him there was steam pouring out of the grill and sides of the hood, and I smelled burnt hydraulic fluid as well (a lot of less-than-bright big rig drivers shred their clutches on long inclines by failing to use the proper gear, instead fanning or partially engaging the clutch in a higher gear for extended periods).

That's what that jerk gets for ignoring the half dozen signs that say "SLOWER VEHICLES MUST USE TURNOUTS", ignoring the string of more than 30 vehicles behind him, ignoring the brights and horns that were for him, etc., with no regard for others. At least he'll be off the road for a day or two, and the evil part of me hopes he loses a lot of money for a missed job today, or if he's an employee I can hope for a prodigious and humiliating butt chewing over the shredded truck and missed appointment.

I don't know why but today it just isn't working. :(

Temp is 73F, partly cloudy, a bit of tailwind at maybe 5-8mph, traffic less than ideal. Odd stops with no warning. I tried but just could not maintain the 53mpg I saw on the way...

1) 49.8mpg for 35.6mi (Work to home)

The tank is sitting at 43.4mpg over 538mi (541.5mi ODO) with 1.6g remaining according to the SG. The fuel gauge looks to be at about 1/8 so it still looks about right. I'm cautiously optimistic about the miles shown for the tank because the difference is now .1 less than the last trip when compared to the ODO.

On the plus side, another +600mi tank is a lock!! :Banane13:

What did you get on your plates, Brian?

Palemelanesian -- Awesome numbers!!

I think I'm done driving for today. Temps started out at ~66F this morning and i saw a high of 85F. Winds were steady at 10-15 mph with occasional gusts to the mid 20's. One thing I have noticed is that I don't take as big of an FE hit in the Prius as I did the Saturn. Here are the numbers for today:
1) 54.8-5.8 miles(home to wife's work)
2) 75.6-9.6(wife's work to my work)
3) 78.5-9.6(my work to wife's work)
4) 92.1-6.3(wife's work to home)
5) 64.4-5.6(home to get a haircut via my mom's)
6) 36.1-.6(haircut back to mom's)
7) 44.8-1.3(mom's to store)
8) 131-5.3(store to home)
Average for today: 72.4 Tank is at 7 pips at 368.5 miles with the average at 72.4 I think the day's average would have easily been 75 without the short trips.:(
Wayne Mitchell(FireEngineer) has very graciously agreed to come to my house Saturday morning to install my block heater. With that, I hope to see my first leg numbers in the 60's and possible low 70's instead of in the mid to upper 50's as they have been. Thanks Wayne!

Hi Brian:

___Sorry to hear about your drive …

___Sean, you are really picking this up quick!

___Larry, thank Wayne for me as well as I cannot wait to see what you can make her do after an EBH is doing its thing :D

___72 - 74 degrees F and a 10 - 15 mph head/side wind. 53.4 into a parking lot at the I-294/I-55 interchange when I took on a radio interview by CEL. 51.5 to the gas station another 30 miles down the road with medium rain and that nasty headwind. 1098.9 miles at 58.4 was the result w/ the SG-II showing 54.6 on the tank. Almost a 4 mpg negative offset which sure makes the daily numbers tough to report but nice when the tank comes in much better. She broke through to a new lmpg high at 48.6. Winter is fast becoming a distant and fading memory ;)

___Good Luck

___Wayne

Light rain and buttheads aplenty on the way home. Had to kill 2 really good glides... but later made up some of it with a really really long glide that had some up and down gentle hills, I was tempted twice to give a little pulse but the Wayne on my shoulder in my right ear kept saying hold it hold it no HOLD IT... there ya go... hit the flashers for the guy coming up behind you, yeah ridge ride just like that.... all the way down to a 4 minute stoplight with a train... heheh.:D Ended up with a teensey better record of 34.3 mpg for the way home.

I've been filling to the first click at the same pump for most of the tanks, instead of filling to as the photos show, as the Rangers take about another 5 minutes to bleed in the next about 3 gallons, and on the Guzzler its 15 minutes to bleed in the last 19 of 38 gallons. How much accuracy am I sacrificing by only going to the first click off instead of bleeding it completely full? I think I stopped doing the full full fill on the Red Ranger because of some dripping from I think a vent hose at the filler?

Took off a little early to go the barber shop. Got in the car and ... panic! The ScanGauge wouldn't work! I fiddled with the OBD plug going up the road, to no avail. I felt temporarily lost without it. But then I remembered the rule of thumb I had previously proposed for Prii without a tach: Keep MPG between MPH x 0.5 and MPH x 1.2 during ICE-on phases. It seemed to work. Obviously I don't know what the trip MPG was, but the tank MPG ended where it started @ 70.4 MPG.

Anyway, when I came out of the barber shop and fired the car back up it was working fine. And it had the miles from the trip to the barber shop logged on it. So apparently it was a transient display problem. Any SG users ever see that? I don't know that it matters, but I forgot to put the sun shield up today, and by the time I left the office the sun was beating directly down on it.

I finished the day with decent numbers: 79.4 MPG for the day, 34 miles.

Hi Ken:
But later made up some of it with a really really long glide that had some up and down gentle hills, I was tempted twice to give a little pulse but the Wayne on my shoulder in my right ear kept saying hold it hold it no HOLD IT... there ya go... hit the flashers for the guy coming up behind you, yeah ridge ride just like that.... all the way down to a 4 minute stoplight with a train... heheh.:D Ended up with a teensey better record of 34.3 mpg for the way home. ___That Wayne guy is crazy, isn’t he :D

___Nice job on moving up the ladder to new personal bests!

___Jim, GaryG has seen that with his SG-I in the FEH IIRC and it was due to interior heat from the mid-summer Florida sun. Try not to button up your Prius in the summer sun if at all possible. You are cooking the life out of those poor NiMH’s :( At almost 80, you still had a heck of a day even without your SG-II ;)

___Good Luck

___Wayne

Jim, GaryG has seen that with his SG-I in the FEH IIRC and it was due to interior heat from the in mid-summer Florida sun. Try not to button up your Prius in the summer sun if at all possible. You are cooking the life out of those poor NiMH’s :(
That may explain it then.

I don't have a lot of choice. Wherever I button her up she'll be getting drenched in sunlight for most of the day. There really are no trees adjacent to my lot. But there is an old, tall oak tree behind the building across the street from my usual parking space. I never noticed this until the warm weather arrived and I noticed how comfortable the car was at quitting time: That tree is tall enough and in just the right position to shade the car late in the afternoon, starting about an hour before quitting time. It so happened that today I left two hours early.

Well I'm nudging up the numbers again: from my brother's house back to work through unfamiliar territory mostly I managed to squeak a 34.9 for 9.5 miles. The tank is at 31.3 right now :cool: Also got out a magnifying glass so I could read the sidewalls on my tires:o and they are rated for 35psi max, running about 45psi currently. On next tank I think I might nudge them up just a bit and see if there is any more improvement.

Jimbo, I had the 'dead display' last week when I parked in the sun... now I disconnect the ScanGauge and stuff it above the visor if the truck is going to be in sun.

___Sean, you are really picking this up quick!



Good teachers make a world of difference. ;)

Well I'm nudging up the numbers again: from my brother's house back to work through unfamiliar territory mostly I managed to squeak a 34.9 for 9.5 miles. The tank is at 31.3 right now :cool: Also got out a magnifying glass so I could read the sidewalls on my tires:o and they are rated for 35psi max, running about 45psi currently. On next tank I think I might nudge them up just a bit and see if there is any more improvement.

Jimbo, I had the 'dead display' last week when I parked in the sun... now I disconnect the ScanGauge and stuff it above the visor if the truck is going to be in sun.

Look at that, Ken! It is only a matter of time before you start turning in entire tanks with those kinds of numbers -- excellent! :thumbs_up:

Good idea by the way -- I've got GaryG's old SG1 (THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU, GARY!!!) and I've got it set so I should be able to just detach it from the Velcro on the dash and let it hang by the cord onto the floormat (the SG1 doesn't detach from the cable).

14.1 mi @ 81.0 mpg @ 91 degF = 141.5% PoE
:Banane25::Banane25::Banane25:

Personal best on the way back from work today (3% above previous best). I managed to hit absolutely every light green. First time it's ever happened. I'll call this the theoretical best (until I break it) for this route w/o EV or EBH. This was even with dumping about 75 kph at various points. Suppose if you didn't dump any speed and hit every light a high 80s could be possible, but at some points you are gonna have to make the right turns. And, just to be totally honest, I did eat two bars of SoC when I saw that 80 might fall today. Tomorrow is gonna be hard starting on 3 bars instead of 4.

So that was my goal before EBH and EV, so I guess I'm clear for take-off.

I'll have to catch up on the grind thread, been a bit laxed on posting to DG

PS, Wayne, thanks... I just added a tank in the 60's so my 1-month avg went down..:(

Also hit a PB RT of 77.1

Ohh forgot trip in today...

16.1 mi @ 74.1 @ 79 degF

11011011

2 segments tonight to finish off the record tank (see other thread :D).

99.7 / 11.5 miles / 77F
73.0 / 10.1 miles / 72F

The tank finished at 78.3 / 656 miles / 1 solid pip.

Home from the gas station, pegged the MFD at 99.9, though the SG reported less:

85.1 / 1.5 miles / 71F

Dan - congrats on the record segment! :D

OK Larry - what's the profile of that last 5.x mile segment of yours?? Start at the top of a hill, give it a push, and glide the rest of the way? ;) :D Awesome!

Hi Jerad:

___Glide nothing. Larry's telling the wife and kids its out of gas because its not running and they have to get out and push it the rest of the way home :D That Larry's something, isn't he ;)

___Good Luck

___Wayne

Hi All,
I got my first 40.0 RT today.
Home (Ashburnham, MA) to Cambridge (Rt. 2) to Worcester (Masspike) to home. Some FAS, lots of coasting NICEon, some pulse and glide with NICEon or glide in drive with fuel cutoff.
Cumulative segments on SGII:
93.1 mpg first 6.6 miles.
48.2 mpg first 50.7 miles.
40.0 mpg total for 131.4 miles.
You should not be impressed by the 93.1 mpg because a Hummer could probably do the same (downhill all the way probably a 1000' drop).
The 50.7 miles to Cambridge, MA is about a 1300' drop in elevation.

Brian (Bailout): do you have any hints on not losing too many mpg going up long hills?

--Walter

This would be yesterdays mpg.

Today I had to take my mother on to my brothers home in Owasso.

Okmulgee to a Tulsa Cemetery, 54 mpg
Running around in Tulsa, 46 mpg
Tulsa to Owasso, 51 mpg
Owasso to Tulsa, 51 mpg
Running around Tulsa more, 44 mpg
Tulsa to Okmulgee, back roads and old hwy 75, 58 mpg
SG has me at 50 mpg for the days work
Tanks at 51 mpg.

psy

Hi Walter:

___Welcome to CleanMPG!

___The MASS Pike is a bit much in terms of elevation for a true DWL but what I did in the Insight was to DWL to the minimum in a gear just below VTEC engagement and camp in the right lane in a RR until I crested, begin a FAS and let her come back up to speed on the long downhill payback. I do not know how good that will work with your Fit w/ Auto but the Insight pulled over 104 through those rises and descents.

___58 – 63 degrees and no wind for the drive home tonight. 62.5 to the Interstate and 60.7 into the drive.

___Good Luck

___Wayne

I don't have a lot of choice. Wherever I button her up she'll be getting drenched in sunlight for most of the day.

You would be surprised how much of a thermal delta you can keep in your car with the darkest and most thermally efficient window tint that's legal in your State, a sun screen for the windshield and keeping your two front windows cracked just enough to bleed off cabin pressure.

Finally got my car back from my wife last night; she filled it up with a 41.6 MPG tank, then put some more miles on it.

Segments of 40/40/50 MPG for 45 MPG at 60°F this morning; haze and no wind The car won't FAS worth a darn; time to check the tire pressures.

My dad (former GM development engineer) comes in from MI tonight to stay for the next week. I haven't talked much about my hypermiling since last fall, so it'll be an interesting week; his driving style is at the other end of the spectrum.

You would be surprised how much of a thermal delta you can keep in your car with the darkest and most thermally efficient window tint that's legal in your State, a sun screen for the windshield and keeping your two front windows cracked just enough to bleed off cabin pressure.
Jimbo, I had the 'dead display' last week when I parked in the sun... now I disconnect the ScanGauge and stuff it above the visor if the truck is going to be in sun.
Thanks, Brian. That's all done, though I don't always crack the windows. When afternoon thunderstorms are in the forecast I leave them closed. I may not have the opportunity (or presence of mind) to go out and close them if a storm suddenly pops up. Besides, yesterday was an anomaly with me leaving early. Again, that nice tall oak tree across the street helps cool the car considerably before normal quitting time.

SlowHands, between what you and Wayne said, I'm reassured that it's something easily preventable. I shouldn't have to move it, though, if I just remember to put the sun shield up! :)

Of course, all of this will soon be a moot point as far as the SG is concerned. My new Can-view should be arriving in the next day or two. :woot:

A respectable ride in this morning on the short commute from my fiancee's: 72.3 MPG, 64F. It would have been better, but at two different points on one of the rural -- and usually isolated -- segments I had cars show up behind me, limiting my P&G opportunities.

Nice job, Dan!! :Banane57:



___Glide nothing. Larry's telling the wife and kids its out of gas because its not running and they have to get out and push it the rest of the way home :D That Larry's something, isn't he ;)

___Wayne

:eek: LOL!!! :p

My garage door wouldn't open again last night so I pushed the car uphill into the garage -- probably wasn't too safe... ;)

Got right to the end of my trip in this morning and someone was coming the other direction on the last left hand turn I normally coast around. That was enough to kill my 45mpg run...

57F and clear with no wind:

1) 44.9mpg for 25.7mi (Home to work)

The fuel gauge looks to be about 1/16th or so and the SG is telling me there is 1.1g left. That actually sounds a tiny bit low to me but we'll see when I fill up. Average for the tank is at 43.5mpg over 564mi (567.1mi ODO) so the delta is apparently reduced again.

All set for the 600mi crossover back to the gas station! :cool:

Driving home yesterday, trying to do the P&G thing (45 - 40 mph in a 55) and trying to maintain the 69 mpg segment. It's a fairly lightly travelled road, so other drivers just shift over and pass. But then, one particular car passes me as I'm on the downhill side of a pulse - it's a Honda Insight? ;-)

Thanks,

Bob

81.3mpg at 75F this morning - par for my Insight.

63.7 MPG this morning. I hit at least 5 surprise red lights.

63.7 MPG this morning. I hit almost every red light possible. It was like VDOT added extra lights for me today. Hopefully they'll be removed for my trip home.

EDIT: Hey there's my post that was lost when my browser got confused...

Final result for yesterday:
Morning: 61.1 / 10.0 miles
Afternoon: 57.1 / 12.1
Round Trip: 58.8 / 22.1 miles!

This morning: 55.7 / 11.2 mi.

Tank's at 56.4 / 200 miles, and that's with a -5% offset.


___Andrew, now you are firing on all Cylinders. SOB, 61 in an older non lean burn Civic? Jeesshhhh!!!

Yep. All 4 of those little cylinders. I'm really working that P&G stuff!

Brian (Bailout): do you have any hints on not losing too many mpg going up long hills?

There are few tricks as no matter what you do the laws of physics say you're going to use roughly 3 times the fuel to get up a hill as you do to move on level ground. For the most part there are just 4 things I try to focus on:

1) Stay away from the AC. The last thing your engine needs while it's working its butt off to get up the hill is to have an extra power drain added to it. It's like getting punched in the stomach when you're already breathing hard.

2) Lighten yourself and the vehicle. Every pound that you take up the hill requires that much more fuel.

3) Find the "sweet spot" for your vehicle when it comes to hill climbing. For my Yaris it's 2,600 RPM in any gear, so I use the highest gear that will keep me at my desired speed. On a 6% grade this is 4th gear. Your goal should be to get to the other side of the hill without any unnecessary delay as your MPG will not improve until you're no longer going uphill (which is why I do 2,600 RPM in 4th at 50 MPH rather than 2,600 RPM in 3rd at 40 MPH).

4) Try to get to your target speed before you start the climb, then once you pick your optimal speed stick to it like white on rice. Nothing will screw up what little MPG you'll get on a big climb faster than acceleration.

Well the clinic with Wayne is proving its well worth the time. On the way home late late last night, I set a new best for that trip: 38.2 mpg for 10.5 miles :Banane44: That beats the previous record by FOUR (4) mpg! :woot:
Got up late this morning and had tons o' traffic, and problems with the stupid starter solenoid wire, but still managed to pull in another personal best for the way in: 32.3 mpg for 10.5 miles, beating the previous by 1 mpg. :D
Methinks my first project on Saturday will be to jack up the Ranger and clean the contacts for that silly wire...

Dan - very nice indeed

Tank is at 31.6mpg at 265 miles, (odometer reads 265.3) ScanGauge saying 334 miles to go...

OK Larry - what's the profile of that last 5.x mile segment of yours?? Start at the top of a hill, give it a push, and glide the rest of the way? Awesome!

I'll give you a rundown of the route. There are 2 stop signs on the route. 1 of them you pretty much have to stop at it-there is a dip in the road 50-75 yards away from the corner. I started from my parking spot ~2/3 of a block from a traffic light that I timed so I hit it green. Once I got to the light I was able to glide down a slight grade for 1 block where the speed limit is 20 mph. I carried that glide out untill I was ~18 mph then pulsed back up to 28 and glided back down to 21 then EV'd for ~1/4 mile before making a right turn. I should note that there was 1 mile between the traffic light and the first turn. After the turn I pulsed back to 28. And, because of the combination of hills, I was able to go the rest of that mile with out using any gas by EV ing enough to get to the stop sign. I then pulsed to 28 and DWL for ~.1 miles to make sure I had enough momentum to get over the hill and glided to 21 and pulsed back to 28 and was able to glide to the next stop sign with a little EV. The next stretch was 2 miles long with no stop until I have to make a right turn onto my road. I basically P&G from 28-21. At ~1/4 mile from the right turn, I was at 30 mph to get over a hill that is ~1/8 mile up then 1/8 mile back down with the right turn right at the bottom:(. I turn the corner at 18-21 mph and glide .3 miles to my driveway then EV at abot 5 mph up the drive then back into my garage. I'll have to check Google Earth and see if there was a net drop in elevation.

Brian (Bailout) said:
"1) Stay away from the AC. ...
2) Lighten yourself and the vehicle. ..."
The logical conclusion then is that I must drive naked -- that helps with both 1 and 2.

"3 Find the "sweet spot" for your vehicle when it comes to hill climbing."
I'll have to experiment with this.
"4) Try to get to your target speed before you start the climb, then once you pick your optimal speed stick to it like white on rice." I've been trying to get up to speed by the end of the downhill. I try the 'white on rice' next.
Thanks a lot for the help.

Wayne: 104 mpg on the Western part of the Masspike is impressive. The part I did yesterday was not as hilly as the Berkshires.

Maybe I should get the car towed the last 6 miles home, or is that cheating?

--Walter

The logical conclusion then is that I must drive naked

:eek:

lol

Aww c'mon - I've driven in boxers - it's quite enjoyable! :D

Hi All:

___Trip in started great. A 10 – 15 mph head/side wind with temps from 80 - 86 degrees … 56.7 at the half way point and still climbing. Then it went south in a hurry. I thought my glides started to drop off and I correlated this to possibly a storm front and head winds I was driving into … Until it passed and my glides were shot. I pulled into the lot at 52.8 and saw my left rear had maybe 5#’s in her :( **** this construction around Chicago right now :angry:

___Good Luck

___Wayne

Had to get out today and run out a friends place and then south to Henreyetta. Total miles driven 50. I did all of this driving on the country back roads. MPG for today was 63 mpg.

psy

Alight, KEN!! :Banane35:

Guys, I was a bit disappointed on the way home because I couldn't get it up into the 50's the way I wanted to. I never saw past 50.7mpg -- traffic was quite unpredictable again today. Had to stop several times on 394 (unusual at this time of day) and stopped twice on 252.

Anyway, temp at 72F, wind from the SE at about 15mph or so, overcast:

1) 49.6mpg for 34.4mi (Work to Costco)

SG showed 43.8mpg over 598mi (601.5mi ODO) with 0.4g left. The fuel gauge showed about 3 needle widths above the empty mark. So I start filling....

CLICK

Huh??

(Looks at SG) Should be 13.6g, right?

(Looks at pump) WhaaAA?! :eek:

(Double checks, and one more time for sure) 12.8g!!!

ZOINKS!!!!

:Banane10:

The gallons offset isn't 16% after all -- more like 10.5%!

Which means... (DUT DUD DUH DAH!!!)

PR tank at 46.992mpg!!!

And this after the struggle with driving to the cabin and back with full load and headwinds!

After carefully recording this wonderfully low number for gallons fill, I proceeded to try to stuff until I could see the gas... I managed to put in 14.920g total or 2.12g more than first click -- which means I have about 17g of capacity if my math is correct (remember a couple of tanks ago I put in 14.768g to first click). :D

http://www.cleanmpg.com/photos/uploads/678/Photo_060107_001.jpg
(Gas filled up!!)

I almost forgot to record my trip from Costco back to the house...

2) 35.2mpg for 1.8mi (Costco to home)

Now THAT is a nice end to the week. :Banane47:

NICE WORK SEAN!:Banane44: It feels good to set PR's doesn't it?:) I can imagine now how it will feel for you when you break that 50 mark.:D

I think I set a new PR for a daily mpg today. I got out of work early today because of inventory.:woot: Since I didn't have to be anywhere for several hours, I took my time. I went from work to my bank then took my favorite FE route back home. I think the car wasn't as warm as the last time I set a record but it still did pretty good.
1) 58.9-5.8 miles
2) 74.7-9.6
3) 31.0-1.2
4) 116-7.7
5) 44.1-2.7
6) 103-7.7
7) 85.9-10.7
8) 119-5.3
9) 76.2-9.1
10) 77.7-9.2
Average for today: 78.4 New record!:woot: Tank is at 73.6 after 437.7 miles with 6 of 10 pips still showing.

Is it just me or does the forum seem painfully slow today?:confused:

NICE WORK SEAN!:Banane44: It feels good to set PR's doesn't it?:) I can imagine now how it will feel for you when you break that 50 mark.:D


ABSOLUTELY!! :Banane25:

And congrats to you, too!!

Yes, it does seem a bit slow...

Say... I can't seem to post my photo of the gas fill into my message above... How do I do that? I wanted to upload it but couldn't figure out how so I just threw it on my webserver but it isn't showing here?

Looks like my Coroplast front belly pan folded and fell down; I'll need to support it better or take it off.

Big backup at the Pike and another from an accident on the state highway, but I managed 41 MPG in spite of everything on the way home.

ABSOLUTELY!! :Banane25:

And congrats to you, too!!

Yes, it does seem a bit slow...

Say... I can't seem to post my photo of the gas fill into my message above... How do I do that? I wanted to upload it but couldn't figure out how so I just threw it on my webserver but it isn't showing here?

I'm not sure what you've tried yet but, here's how I post pictures: I go to the gallery and click on "upload pictures." Then, click on "browse" and select the photo. Once the photo is processed, I click on the photo then scroll down to the choice to copy the image to clipboard. This will be the one with the and tags at the ends of the url. Then, go to the thread and hit reply and right click the mouse and select paste and you're ready to submit the thread. Hopefully that helps. I wouldn't mind seeing that pic.:)

MPG Miles
Monday
54.7 = 24.8
48.0 = 24.7
Tuesday
51.1 = 24.7
63.6 = 10.0
54.7 = 25.1
Wednesday
58.8 = 24.6
58.8 = 25.3
Thursday
49.0 = 24.6
58.8 = 26.5
Friday
53.5 = 24.7
53.5 = 2.7

A good week and certainly a good thank probably monday.

Pierre

Sean - Outstanding! :D 46.992 mpg oh yeah big toothy grins all around.
Larry - Good Grief! I can't begin to guess what you will be doing when its broken in... I just might have to get a Larry clinic someday ;)
On the way home, had trouble with the starter again, requiring sitting at a couple lights with the engine running, but still did a 34.2 mpg. On the way home from softball pitching lessons with my daughter she was so overheated I had to break down and run the AC for a while (well yeah I was a bit warm and drippy too :eek: ) and got stuck at a 3 minute light argh 18.2 for 4.2 miles... but now on way back into work, managed a new PR for this leg: 32.9 mpg :D sheesh - every time out right now I'm pushing a new PR - how far can I go? dunno but it will be fun to find out!

This was just not my week. After yesterday's commuting fiasco I again got stuck behind a slow person on Mount Rose this morning, but at least he was doing 40 instead of 30 like yesterday's fellow.

Then I got stuck driving a few folks to lunch as their meeting ran late and they didn't have time to walk. I had planned on walking, as always, so I didn't even have my EBH plugged in. Then to add insult to injury the traffic at the one intersection we had to go through was horrid, packed with a bunch of tourists ("Look, Martha, a pine cone!"), and we had to traverse it in the worst direction. It was all uphill there so I was looking forward to a nice FAS/DFCO segment on the way back but the tourists foiled me again ("I'm going to turn left, no, right, no, left... wait, let me just stop right here in the only lane and figure it out.").

I was hoping to make up for all of this on the way home but first I was almost hit by a GMC Yukon - with just a lone driver in it - that insisted on passing me on the uphill side right before the saddle at the summit despite me doing the speed limit and heavy oncoming traffic. He found himself in a tight spot and decided to run me off the road rather than drop back in behind me. Where's a cop when you need one? I swear I'm going to put an air horn in my Yaris because the stock one can't be heard over a 10-knot wind.

Further along I got stuck behind a flat-bed semi that was going painfully slow, so slow that even in a 3rd gear DFCO I had to use the friction brakes on almost every corner. He finally pulled off into a turnout once there were 6 or 7 of us behind him, but he did so very slowly and smack at the beginning of a section I usually FAS over due to it being a slight uphill after a long downhill. I had to use fuel through that section instead as I was only doing 15 MPH by the time he was clear.

Speaking of wind, once I got on the Reno side of the mountain I ran into winds up to 60 MPH and I'll be ****ed if it wasn't a head wind right where I needed it to be the exact opposite. There's another FAS section of a long, slight downhill followed by a sharp uphill, followed by another slight downhill. If I can start that section at 65 MPH or better I can FAS all the way over all of that - over a mile - and hold 55 MPH (the speed limit) before I go right into a 5th gear bump start and DFCO as the grade increases. This afternoon the headwind had me all the way down to just 35 MPH by the time I crested the rise, which meant traveling on the shoulder with my hazards on while I coasted along, taking almost 2 miles to accelerate via gravity back up to 55 MPH.

I stopped by the automated recycling car wash on the way home to knock the new layer of yellow Pine pollen off of my car and the attendant moved me forward in the rails not once but twice, making me start the engine twice where I usually don't run it at all.

These last 2 days have been one of those times where you feel like the world is deliberately trying to make you burn fuel.

I'm not sure what you've tried yet but, here's how I post pictures: I go to the gallery and click on "upload pictures." Then, click on "browse" and select the photo. Once the photo is processed, I click on the photo then scroll down to the choice to copy the image to clipboard. This will be the one with the and tags at the ends of the url. Then, go to the thread and hit reply and right click the mouse and select paste and you're ready to submit the thread. Hopefully that helps. I wouldn't mind seeing that pic.:)

That did it, Larry! Have a look at the post again for the pic here (http://www.cleanmpg.com/forums/the-daily-grind/t-week-of-may-28-june-3-2007-us-ave-320-page10-4789.html#post30690).

Thanks, Ken! I'm pretty excited because I KNOW I can do better without a trip to the cabin to pull the average down. :D You aren't doing too bad yourself!!

Larry, you are ama-za-zing!! I second Ken's comments. :flag:

Wow. You have been having a rough week, Brian. I sure hope it clears up for you soon.

SGII says my overall average yesterday was 31.8, for a full 25(ish) mileroundtrip all the way to work and back (no biking). Climbing 700' over the West Hills each way (and descending with major glide!)

Today it says 32.4 for the day. That's for over 100 miles of driving, including a quick trip just out of town with a visiting relative for some mountain biking after work.

SGII says my overall average yesterday was 31.8, for a full 25(ish) mileroundtrip all the way to work and back (no biking). Climbing 700' over the West Hills each way (and descending with major glide!)

Today it says 32.4 for the day. That's for over 100 miles of driving, including a quick trip just out of town with a visiting relative for some mountain biking after work.

Nice driving! Your mileage is coming up nicely, ScanGauge sure is a neat tool.
On way home tonight, managed to get close to the record, 38.0 mpg for 10.5 mi. Tank at 31.6 mpg again after a dip to 31.3 earlier this afternoon.

Hi Brian:

___Sometimes you bite the bear and other times, he bites you … I think I know where the teeth marks lye this time around :(

___Ken, 38 in the Ranger already? You will be blowing past me in a matter of days :D

___57 - 66 degree temps and 0 - 10 mph tail/side wind. I pressed up the slowly leaking tire to 60 and headed out. 63.6 to the Interstate and 58.8 into the drive. I have to get up in a few hours to get that same rear tire repaired again (same tire that was repaired 3 weeks ago and apparently the plug/patch did not hold :() for the Prius I trade on early Sunday …

___Good Luck

___Wayne

I filled the HCHII yesterday when the fuel light came on. (per my son) He had a GREAT first tank. 510 miles, 10.279gallons=49.61 mpg. FCD showed 48.0 mpg.
What made it even better (FOR HIM) he was paid 48.6 cents per mile for about 200 of those miles for the contract job he is doing!!!

I told him that he now has a point set to raise.

Had to go get my hair cut...

Temp at 71F, overcast, no wind:

1) 44.2mpg for 13.2mi (Home to parking lot -- too early for haircut)
2) 23.8mpg for 0.2mi (Parking lot to haircut -- not bad for 0.2mi!!)
3) 52.5mpg for 12.4mi (Haircut to home -- PR!)

I saw a high of 54.7mpg on the way back -- that was less than 10 miles into it. The SG is now reporting high relative to the ODO and I increased the tank size to 16g from 14 to reflect the new stuffing procedure ;). Tank is claimed to be at 46.4mpg over 27.7mi (27.5 ODO) with 15.4g left. Might have to twiddle the speed offset half way through the tank to get it to even out (between 0 and +1% offset -- too bad there are no decimals to play with!)

Hi Sean:

___Considering how far you have come in just 2 months, I am sure I can speak for most here but we are all excited to see how far you have come in such a short time. The next few mpg’s are the toughest but also the most rewarding so don’t give up ;)

___Woke up early to get the right rear tire fixed “AGAIN” :angry: Second nail in the same tire in three weeks but it sure was nice to feel those glides let loose again ;) Over 90K miles with no issues and then 2 ails in the same tire within a month :rolleyes: 67 - 83 degrees, 10 – 20 mph head/side winds w/ some rain. 54.0 half way into the commute and then the head winds picked up. 52.8 into the lot. Winds always drop off for the night commutes home so there is no payback but there is nobody around to molest you either. I am not sure which is best :D

___Good Luck

___Wayne

Wayne Mitchell(FireEngineer) got my EBH installed this morning and I'm getting ready in a little bit to go and try it out. My son and I are heading to Radio Shack in a couple of hours and and the car is getting all toasty at the moment.:) Thanks a bunch Wayne! After the install, we had to go on a test run, just to make sure everything was tight....uh, yeah...that's it.:D I took Wayne on one of my best FE runs and I managed 57.0 for the 5.2 mile trip starting up with a cold engine. On the way home, things were MUCH better. I only got 125 for the return trip though; didn't want to give away all my secrets.:D Just kidding. Anyway, the trip average for today is 91.:eek: I'm kind of thinking that I won't be able to hold onto that for the trip to the Shack.:(

I'm kind of thinking that I won't be able to hold onto that for the trip to the Shack.:(

Depending how long you've pre-heated you might be surprised. Took the mini-van to Larry's so I could fill it with cheaper Indiana gas. Pulled up to his place at 32.6MPG. Took a little more southern route home and hit 33.0MPG at the gas fill-up. And the Prius comes out of the body shop Monday.

Wayne

I ended up with 75.9 for the 9.0 mile trip over to Radio Shack. Then there was that .1 mile trip through the parking lot to my favorite source of IBC root beer. That was only 15.8:( Then engine had cooled just enough that I couldn't EV. On the way home there was a significant amount of rain but I got 78.1 for the trip home and ended up with 74.3 for the day.

I was at 160*F within 3/4 of a mile after an ~2 hour warm-up. I'm lovin' the EBH already. Once again, THANKS WAYNE!

Heya Larry,

I'm curious as to why you would drive 0.1 miles rather than just walking across the parking lot?

I forgot to mention that the significant amount of rain started just before the trip home did.:( Also, the IBC root beer I got was in 12 16-once 2-packs.
Edit: I forgot; the store was actually on my way out to go home.

I'm lovin' the EBH already.
I felt the same way after he did mine. Save some of that love for Wayne! ;)

Ran some errands this morning; trip was 76.2 MPG. Got home and found the new Can-view waiting on me. :Banane06:

Got it installed and took it out to play some on the country roads. I reset the trip MPG once, so I don't know have the figure for the whole trip. But the post-reset MPG was 87. (For you precise people -- you know who you are :) -- it doesn't do decimals on MPG.)

And the entire day nudged my tank MPG at 510 miles from 70.6 MPG to 71.4.

I felt the same way after he did mine. Save some of that love for Wayne! ;)
Ran some errands this morning; trip was 76.2 MPG. Got home and found the new Can-view waiting on me. :Banane06:

Got it installed and took it out to play some on the country roads. I reset the trip MPG once, so I don't know have the figure for the whole trip. But the post-reset MPG was 87. (For you precise people -- you know who you are :) -- it doesn't do decimals on MPG.)

And the entire day nudged my tank MPG at 510 miles from 70.6 MPG to 71.4.

I definately will do that. There aren't many people who will do house calls these days-in any profession. I tried to offer him something, especially since he had to drive his van, and he wouldn't take it. I could even get him to take a drink(water, soda, etc.) for the road-especially after the 10 mile ride in mid 80'sF heat with the windows up- and he declined. First rate guy and very knowledgeable. I told him I'd buy him lunch at Oak Creek since Wayne(xcel) offered to buy mine.;):D

How much is the Can-view? What are it's advantages over Scanguage1 & 2? Is it really easy to install? No decimals in MPG? I don't know, might be the deal breaker.;):D

Hi Sean:

___Considering how far you have come in just 2 months, I am sure I can speak for most here but we are all excited to see how far you have come in such a short time. The next few mpg’s are the toughest but also the most rewarding so don’t give up ;)



:o

Aw... shucks.

Ok, you've hit 50. You know that you now have to go for 60 right?:D

Hi All:

___5 - 10 mph tail wind and on again off again light rain about ½ the way home. 64 – 69 degree temps and 58.9 into the drive. Hit the Interstate at 66.4 too :(

___Good Luck

___Wayne

How much is the Can-view? What are it's advantages over Scanguage1 & 2? Is it really easy to install? No decimals in MPG? I don't know, might be the deal breaker.;):D
The advantage is the availability of Prius-specific CAN data: MG RPMs, current and voltage into and out of the HV battery, HV battery temp, etc. It's considerably more expensive than the SG, and with the 2006-2007 Prius requires an external monitor. See this (http://www.hybridinterfaces.ca/products.html) for pricing details.

For my 2005, it integrates into the MFD. Installation was pretty straightforward. Most of the work is to disassemble several pieces of the dash just to get to the backside of the MFD. I had done that previously to install my integrated XM radio unit, so even for this "mechanically challenged" individual, it was pretty straightforward. Obviously the installation on the later models is different, and I can't tell you exactly what's involved. You should be able to get details on the CV site and numerous PriusChat threads.

If you're considering one, you should do it quickly. Norm has announced he will stop selling them after current inventory of component parts is depleted. (Instead he will be focusing his attention on models for Prius PHEV conversions.) I would normally be hesitant to buy a soon-to-be-discontinued product at this price, but he promises continued support for units sold, and accolades abound for his customer care among long-time CV users on PC.

EDIT: The integration into the MFD and the quality of the display are added advantages. I found I had to wear my reading glasses while driving to clearly see the SG display. I won't have to do that with CV. The options for display content are considerably better than SG. The CV site has more.

Tain on the way home last night, but heh still managed to push a new PR again - 39 mpg - 40 is so close I can almost smell it...

I have to get up in a few hours to get that same rear tire repaired again (same tire that was repaired 3 weeks ago and apparently the plug/patch did not hold ) for the Prius I trade on early Sunday ...
What was that again?

I know I don't contribute much to the "grind" threads and
this is going to be waaaay at the back of another generic
week's worth of everyone else's accomplishments, but one
reason is that over the winter/early-spring and with all
the highway I was doing in that time, I've been turning fairly
mediocre tanks -- low to mid fifties, and only now in the
warmer weather starting to get back toward sixties territory.
I don't take per-trip segments, I just log the particulars
at fillups and do the FCD vs. pump calculations. So it
doesn't seem worth commenting about tanks on par with what
almost everyone else in a Prius would be getting too.
.
But having just started a new tank and so far managing to almost
completely avoid any interstate travel, coupled with a refill
of transaxle fluid and a bottle of Techron at the tank-up,
I arrived home last night just touching 75 mpg average at
160 miles. It's kind of amusing using the GPS to calculate
when to start long decel glides on unfamiliar countryside
backroads, as I was doing last night. I could probably hold
close to this if I was able to continue driving the same type
of terrain for the rest of the tank and be religious about the
block heater, but next week's trip to NJ will probably blow
that out of the water.
.
_H*

Hi All:

___Went to the MaHG and MiHG meetup for the Brewers game but had to work so could only stay for an hour or so. 5 - 10 mph tail/side yielded 57.2 into the Culver's. She was holding onto a record tank out at 56.9 out over 450 miles but sometimes we have to make sacrifices :angel:

___Tarabell, I traded vehicles with Cheryl Appel of the MaHG for a week or two and had a little opportunity to get to know this 2002 Prius-I w/ NAVI a little better ;)

___I don’t know what others have said or achieved in the past but this thing is pretty hot for a 1st/2nd gen hybrid. I was impressed driving through a 10 - 20 mph head/side wind in temps from 71 - 82 degrees F and 10% of the drive in rain. 95% highway from the Meet back home yielded 69.2 per the MFD after 50 miles. Pressed up the RE92’s and headed into work. Another 95% highway drive yielded 75.2 over 94 miles into the parking lot. Warp Stealth is a bit touchy but tonight I get to discover a bit about her P&G capability and I cannot wait :) It is supposed to rain over the next few days but I will do my best to push her through that non-sense and see what she can do? I still have to clean the displays and dash, cal the SG-II, swap out the tranny fluid and change from whatever is currently in the crankcase to some Mobil1 0W-20 and a SuperTech.

___If I didn't know any better, I would say her highway capability (EPA highway 45) is even better then the Prius II (EPA highway 51) although I have very little experience in the Prius-II at highways speeds ...

___Good Luck

___Wayne

Ken, you are really pushing the envelope! :Banane38:

Ok, you've hit 50. You know that you now have to go for 60 right?:D

Um... that seems really far away today. :(

Today just wasn't the best for me.

61F, overcast, very humid, pushy traffic:

1) 46.1mpg for 20.3mi (Home to Church)

They tore up the road to the Church and I got both feet completely covered in high clay content mud. I'm talking can't even see the shape of my shoes covered. I missed half of Mass trying to get myself cleaned up enough that I could go up to the Choir loft. :(

2) 44.1mpg for 21.5mi (Church to home)

Ugh. The trip back is always difficult because it is pretty much entirely uphill, but I seemed to just lose one tailgater only to gain another. :mad: Safety first. :p

All this brought my tank average back down to 45.6mpg over 69.6mi (69.7mi ODO) -- I had set the speed offset back to 0% so I'm under the ODO again.

I had a news crew from the local channel 2 NBC affiliate in the car with me today, and we tooled around for about 6 miles in a pure urban setting, except for 1 mile on the highway. With the extra passengers, equipment, a 15-knot wind and hitting **** near every long light red I managed 53.8 MPG.

I don't have a way to get a recorded show off of my DVR but the sales manager from my Toyota dealership said he'd record it and make a DVD for me.

Did some coast down testing today in the Rangealturd, Civic and Accord.
You can see that test here post #9. http://www.cleanmpg.com/forums/fuel-economy/t-ideas-on-pushing-the-civics-mpg-farther-4713.html

I did have the SG in the cars/truck during the testing.

Aprox. 32 miles each run:
Rangealturd: 32 mpg
Civic: 51.8 mpg
Accord: 38.6 mpg

Guess you can tell which one I drive and like the most. :rolleyes:

psy

Trip to Milwaukee today for the MaHG/MHG gathering. Did pretty well, but also set a high bar to get over for a consecutive record tank...

69.5 / 83.0 miles / 64-72F to the Culver's where we all met up (1/3 interstate, 2/3 secondary highways / cty rds)
94.1 / 5.7 miles / 72F / intermittent downpours to Miller Park
66.8 / 89.1 miles / 63-72F / more heavy rain for some of the time back to Madison
57.7 / 5.3 miles / 63F / downpour back to my house

The tank is at 68.2 / 184 miles / 9 pips.

filled up at 56.7. i hate when the gauge reads so much higher....it was at 60.9. oh well, beats a poke in the eye with a sharp stick.

Note: For previous weeks, look here, and for later weeks, look here.

Legs 1,2,12,13 brought me down. The rest were all fairly respectable. 1 & 2 were highway / weekend miles. Legs 12 & 13 were weekend miles as well.

Key (http://www.cleanmpg.com/forums/z/Dan/blog/?cmd=viewentry&entryid=13)#|Notes|Start trip|Start mpg|Start SoC|End trip|End mpg|End SoC|Avg mpg|Trip mi|°F|50W car|Er± mpg
01|Misc Mon 5/28|80.0|59.1|5|96.6|58.2|5|54.22|16.6|77.0|?|0.5
02|Drive home Mon|96.6|58.2|5|164.2|57.2|3|55.83|67.6|73.0|1.5|0.2
03|RT Errands Mon|164.2|57.2|3|174.9|58.0|4|73.85|10.7|73.0|0.0|2.4
04|Drive in Tue|174.9|58.0|4|189.2|59.1|4|76.95|14.3|77.0|2.5|2.0
05|Drive home Tue|189.2|59.1|4|203.4|60.1|4|77.59|14.2|88.0|1.0|2.2
06|Drive in Wed|203.4|60.1|4|217.7|60.9|4|75.12|14.3|81.0|3.0|2.1
07|Drive home Wed|217.7|60.9|4|231.9|61.3|4|68.16|14.2|77.0|2.0|1.9
08|Drive in Thurs|231.9|61.3|4|248.3|62.0|5|73.94|16.4|77.0|4.0|2.0
09|Drive home Thurs|248.3|62.0|5|262.4|62.8|3|81.27|14.1|91.0|?|2.9
10|Drive in Friday|262.4|62.8|3|276.7|63.3|5|74.13|14.3|79.0|2.0|2.5
11|Drive home Friday (to pool)|276.7|63.3|5|291.5|63.7|5|72.23|14.8|88.0|2.0|2.4
12|Pool to home Friday|291.5|63.7|5|292.8|63.7|4|63.70|1.3|86.0|0.0|24.3
13|Trip to store|292.8|63.7|4|296.4|63.7|4|63.70|3.6|86.0|0.0|8.3

Weeks stats|||||||||
Current city|51.20%| | | | | | |Goal EPA_mpg for current city/hwy split|55.24 mpg
Current hwy|48.80%| | | | | | |Current_mpg for current city/hwy split|65.59 mpg
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Difference (PoE)|118.73%||||||||Key (http://www.cleanmpg.com/forums/z/Dan/blog/?cmd=viewentry&entryid=13)

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