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Good run into work this am. Scangauge reported a current of 51.3 mpg. A today reading of 50.3 mpg. That brought the tank up to 44.9 mpg. This should put me well over 500 miles on the tank by friday afternoon.

Was approx. 60F when I left the house this am with no wind. 40 miles later arriving at work it was still 60F with a slight breeze out of the south. South wind would mean a tailwind on this segment of the daily drive.

I was able to get the MPG into the high 30's within 5 miles of the house. The Civic did a wonderful job this morning. I saw current reading on the scangauge of 53 MPG durning certin FAS this morning.

Summer is going to be intresting to say the least. :D

Way to go! 44.9mpg for the tank would put you right up there with your average Prius/HCH driver :D And if you wouldn't mind, please send some of that warm weather up my way to get rid of this white stuff that's been falling all morning.

i want some highway miles ;(

Psy;

Very Nice Indeed. :D

55mpg on the way home today. :) I WIN! I WIN!

Only 42 mpg coming home. 15 to 20 mph head wind saw to that.

i want some highway miles ;(

Meh. Highway miles aren't that great. You trade stoplights and turns for aero drag, which is why I only do marginally better. What you really want is an engine that never gets cold.

Meh. Highway miles aren't that great. You trade stoplights and turns for aero drag, which is why I only do marginally better. What you really want is an engine that never gets cold.
I'm starting to wonder how long it will take before manufacturers apply a thermal barrier coating to the outside of engine blocks to keep them warm for longer. As long as the radiator works well enough, you should be able to cool it entirely via coolant and not rely on air-cooling of the block itself, which is actually a measurable percentage of total cooling of modern all-aluminum motors.

Did 50.8 mpg this morning in the Civic. Tanks down to 44.5 by the scangauge now cause of wensdays wind. Also at 515 miles for the tank with 4 bars left on the fuel gauge. Have some running around to do today. See how close to 600 miles on the tank I can get. This is with a full tank top off.

You are doing great. You are doing better than I am in my hybrid.

Starting to feel sad and lonely with my FEH now. No one to discuss with a fellow FEH owner how to improve MPG. I have a daily choice to get 45mpg or 68mpg on my trips these days. Getting 55mpg tanks is not normal and should not be increasing day after day. This double fake shift in "L" is getting scary now. The way I see the future in the FWD FEH is 60mpg tanks. This should be impossible for an SUV. Anyway, I guess I freaked out those on GH with a picture of my Miles To Empty photo's today.

GaryG

Starting to feel sad and lonely with my FEH now. No one to discuss with a fellow FEH owner how to improve MPG. I have a daily choice to get 45mpg or 68mpg on my trips these days. Getting 55mpg tanks is not normal and should not be increasing day after day. This double fake shift in "L" is getting scary now. The way I see the future in the FWD FEH is 60mpg tanks. This should be impossible for an SUV. Anyway, I guess I freaked out those on GH with a picture of my Miles To Empty photo's today.

GaryG
GaryG;

Ifind it hard to believe that the Guys and Gals over at GH would be so {Shocked} by your FE? :confused:

NOT !!! :rolleyes:

lol if your suv showed up at my house i'd go places and steal all your secrets.

Then I'd save up for a ford hybrid for myself, high seating position with high mpg = DROOL

your so lucky garyg... if i had what you had man i wouldn't be in school loL

although it would be nice if i can get my hands on a Green VUE, i can't stop how potenious it can be... if a GM is reading this forum you know what to do to the car!

Terry, FEH owners are complaining that they can't get 400 miles to a tank as Ford advertises. Only one other person I know of is getting, or can get over a 40mpg tank. Unless you own a FEH, you wouldn't be shocked at these numbers on the Miles To Empty gauge. Most owners don't think the gauge goes that high by looking at their own gauge. When I topped off my tank these last two times, I was getting 52 and 54.9mpg. The MTE gauge always reads far below where your at for some reason. After a few more tanks, the MTE will adjust up from what I've seen in the past.

People are responding to my post on GH now. The responses I read now and in the past discount my techniques as causing damage, dangerous and so forth. I see Phil responded back in my defense about gliding in "N".

BTW Phil, there are no secrets I will hold to get the kind of mileage I'm getting. Nothing more than I would like to see is for every driver to improve FE. I will explain how I do it here, but I'm constantly finding ways to improve FE with EV mode.

It appears I'm now hitting FE that may exceed the Honda's and Toyota's average drivers FE. This has got me unwanted comments from a few in disbelief. This forum members seem to be much better in that regard.

GaryG

Yes, I have been criticized for the things that I do. Either it will damage the car or that it is not possible to get the FE that I do. All of the "impossible" naysayers became very quiet after the Prius marathon. I have done all kinds of crazy stuf with the Prius and it has performed flawlessly for 63k miles. I'm sure that there will be those who say that I am lying when I hit 70 MPG on mt 34/38 rated Del Sol. Usually those who naysay or criticize are also those who can't even get EPA combined FE.

Maybe we should have called the site MPGhaven or something. Because I think that is exactly what it will become. And that is NOT a bad thing.

Any mention of any "advanced" techniques on most other boards will inevitably have some one blasting back with words like "unsafe" "will damage the car" etc.

Any mention of any "advanced" techniques on most other boards will inevitably have some one blasting back with words like "unsafe" "will damage the car" etc.

I've heard those same comments about some of the things I've done, especially when I do things to lean out the mixture.

Terry, FEH owners are complaining that they can't get 400 miles to a tank as Ford advertises. Only one other person I know of is getting, or can get over a 40mpg tank. Unless you own a FEH, you wouldn't be shocked at these numbers on the Miles To Empty gauge. Most owners don't think the gauge goes that high by looking at their own gauge. When I topped off my tank these last two times, I was getting 52 and 54.9mpg. The MTE gauge always reads far below where your at for some reason. After a few more tanks, the MTE will adjust up from what I've seen in the past.

People are responding to my post on GH now. The responses I read now and in the past discount my techniques as causing damage, dangerous and so forth. I see Phil responded back in my defense about gliding in "N".

BTW Phil, there are no secrets I will hold to get the kind of mileage I'm getting. Nothing more than I would like to see is for every driver to improve FE. I will explain how I do it here, but I'm constantly finding ways to improve FE with EV mode.

It appears I'm now hitting FE that may exceed the Honda's and Toyota's average drivers FE. This has got me unwanted comments from a few in disbelief. This forum members seem to be much better in that regard.

GaryG
Hey, GaryG that was really meant as kinda a "Sarcastic/Joking remark about GH members. :) Believe this I can see them having remarks about your FE and how you get it. Nothing New there. I say as long as you or for that matter anyone is "Comfortable" with what they are doing to get their FE up there, have at it. What works for one may not be the approach others will want to use. No one is Wrong, just some are more comfortable than others and at the same time will put out {Alot-More-Effort} to get that extra FE. Hurray for them. I say Live and let Live, Personally. :D

Last comment, Honest, FE takes constant effort, reduced speed, and if one does not want to do either, then it would seem to me it would be (Obvious) that their FE will be less than those that are willing to put out that Extra Something that it takes to get that "Great FE". :D

yeah those non believers haha.... well there's 8 billion people in the world if you can't convinence one, who cares and try the next guy maybe he'll care instead.

I think its time to stop wasting our efforts for those who doesn't give a flying greenhouse gas about saving fuel. We showed them the proof, the techniques and any additional help if they needed it. What we are seeing here is lack of effort or denial ....

the two things that bottleneck society best.

Hi Gary:

___Although I do not feel the excitement for DTE pics as you do, the 65 + mpg segments are what trips my trigger. You have to post some of the full tanks here real soon. I always felt 72 - 75 mpg was where an FEH would top out and each time I have predicted a FE top out for a hybrid of any sort, someone proves me drastically wrong! I think it’s your turn to do the same ;)

___Good Luck and congrats!

___Wayne

Hi Wayne

Your very close to the max with 72mpg as I got it to 68mpg for ten miles. I'm going to give it a shot, but I'm going to have to dig real deep into that bag of tricks and fine tune my concentration to do any better. Had to run the A/C for the wife today and I need to do something to bring up my tank average anyway. I'll try to take some pictures to send you.

As far as the miles to empty gauge, it is a FEH owners way to compare FE to each other. At 745 mile to empty divided by 15 gallon, I showed a 49.6mpg is possible on the next tank. Those that have a FEH know that I had to do much better than that for a while to get that 745 MTE reading. Most FEH owners are crying because they can't get even a 400 MTE reading. No one besides GPSman has reported over a 600 MTE reading to my knowledge. Many FEH hypermilers report a reading around 550 MTE. When I was at 41mpg (before the "Low Gear Advantage), a reading of 576 was has high as I got. This is a stubborn gauge that only a picture could verify to another FEH owner a look at true FE.

GaryG

YEAH YEAH, GUYS i've have offically became part of the 50 mpg group! I Just broke my 50 mpg segment today! I haven't been this excited since.... lol **** the vbgarage has a character limit so i'll post my stats here!

Current commute:

To school from home: (100% city)

5.5 Miles total distance (8.9 km)
2677 RPM max
47 MPH top speed (75 Km/h)
22 MPH Average speed (35 Km/h)
45.2 MPG (5.2L/100km)
.1 Gallons consumed (.5L)
88 Degrees C max temp.
.2 hours (12 minute trip)

To home from school: (100% city)

5.4 Miles total distance (8.6 km)
3179 RPM max
44 MPH top speed (71 Km/h)
24 MPH Average speed (38 Km/h)
43.1 MPG (5.4L/100km)
.1 Gallons consumed (.5L)
.2 hours (12 minute trip)

To work from home: (100% city)

10 degrees C on a cold start.
43.5 mpg (5.4L/100km)
.2 gallons consumed (.7 Litres)
8.9 miles (14.4 Km)
2679 RPM MAX
.3h (18 min drive)
43 mph MAX (70km/h)
25 mph Avg (40 km/h)

From Work to Home (100% city)
Cold start, water coolant temp at 15 degrees C
(I made it almost through all the lights I was suppose to stop at, what a difference and I managed to FAS longer than I should usually, pissed off one or two people but for this number GEE YADS :D)

50.1 MPG (4.6L/100km) < ---- OH YEAH you have no idea how excited I was when I saw this.
.2 Gallons consumed (.7 Liters)
88 degrees C Max
8.9 Miles (14.4 Km)
2865 RPM MAX
.3 hours (18 minutes)
40 mph (64 KM/h MAX)
24 mph (38 KM/h Avg)


To fast food chains:
Personal 3 Km test route:

To friends house: (100% city)
cold start = outside temp 3 degrees C (37.4 F) raining
2507 RPM max
.1h (6 mins)
55 Km/h Max (34.2 MPH)
31 Km/h Average (19.3 MPH)
6.4 L/100km (36.8 mpg)
.3 liters consumed (.08 Gallons)
4.3 Km (2.7 miles)

City to city driving:
From Surrey to Richmond city (both ways = 68.6 km or 42.6 miles)
(60% highway, 40% city)
3120 RPM max
3.4 L consumed (.9 gallons)
103 km max (61 mph)
5.05L/100km (46.6 mpg)
1 hour drive
Variey of up and down hills, didn't change route on the way back. A lot of FAS when possible and many driving with load techniques. Had quite a few (shift shocks) during FAS and when shifting up the hills. Flew what a trip wish I had an auto with some FAS capability. But I blame the shift shocks because I was not familiar with the territory, next time I'll be more prepared.

Way to go!

Hi Phil:

___Finally! And I seem to remember when you first started you were like WTF :D Nice job and congrats indeed. Start posting into the DBase because I have a Congratulations hypermiler’s thread to start this weekend and I want you to be a part of it as you most certainly deserve it!

___All, Gary sent some 70 + mpg pics from his SG equipped FEH last night and I cannot wait to post them here later on today.

___I am absolutely ecstatic to be associated with a group so dedicated to something I deem so important. Thank you to all and please don’t ever give up and please teach what you know to your spouse, neighbor, friends, family, and anyone you feel might need a change in habits … Current tank - 670 miles - 1/3 of a tank left - 52 + mpg’s about to be discovered ;)

___Good Luck

___Wayne

Way to go Phil. :D

Looks like this will be another 600 mile tank. Seems to be hitting the wall right now.

Nice :D. Where does that put the tank MPG-wise? Mid 40s or a little higher?

Nice :D. Where does that put the tank MPG-wise? Mid 40s or a little higher?

The TANK on the SG is showing 44.7 mpg. I expect it to come in by hand calc's at around 42 mpg. Maybe a bit better but not holding my breath.

I started 7 or 8 tanks ago full top off fills. So the hand calc's should be and will be the published numbers. I can see Wayne getting all teary eyed about now. :)

The SG has went wiggy on me in the fact that the last few tanks have been lower by 2 or 3 mpg than the SG has shown. I dont know if this is a result of doing some coasting in 5th gear of throttle or what it is.

psy