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I've found a few links (below) about the Prius III. Possibly due out as early as Fall of '08?


Some of these articles are mentioning an expected 80 mpg city and even 94 mpg.
Given that 90% of my miles are highway miles I'm hoping hwy FE would be similar.

http://www.soultek.com/clean_energy/hybrid_cars/third_generation_toyota_prius_in_2008.htm

http://www.houstoncars.org/2008-toyota-prius-preview.php

http://www.worldcarfans.com/rsslink.cfm/article/6070119.001/toyota/spy-image-next-gen-toyota-prius

Edmunds.com is still holding to thier source that reports the 2009 will be 1.5L not 1.8L

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/News/articleId=109981

Not only is it getting really good MPG, but they've also stated it will be cheaper than the Prius that they have out now. They even said it might have a lithium battery! High hopes, I know.

And I'm obviously getting one when it comes out.

Can anyone explain what is meant by Japan's standard fuel cycle?

From Edmonds "Honda is currently winning the hybrid image war in Japan with the tiny Insight coupe, which manages 102 mpg in Japan's standard fuel cycle. The Prius is just a whisker behind at 99 mpg (35 km/l). But now comes news that Toyota is determined to hit 40 km/l (113 mpg) with the next Prius. Of course, these are Japanese fuel-economy figures, which will not translate directly to real-world driving conditions in the U.S."

Can anyone explain what is meant by Japan's standard fuel cycle?

From Edmonds "Honda is currently winning the hybrid image war in Japan with the tiny Insight coupe, which manages 102 mpg in Japan's standard fuel cycle. The Prius is just a whisker behind at 99 mpg (35 km/l). But now comes news that Toyota is determined to hit 40 km/l (113 mpg) with the next Prius. Of course, these are Japanese fuel-economy figures, which will not translate directly to real-world driving conditions in the U.S."

Think that's Japan's EPA, but thats pure speculation on my part.

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From Edmonds "Honda is currently winning the hybrid image war in Japan with the tiny Insight coupe."

It amazes me that people who get paid to write are so blinkered that they keep referring to the Insight as "tiny". The SmartCar - now that's tiny.

For some reason vintage cars are constantly on the streets of the town where I live, and when I see them I'm always struck by how much smaller they are than today's cars. Of course an Austin Healey Sprite - especially the Bugeye - is "tiny" but even an MGB or a Sunbeam Tiger looks tiny by today's bloated standards. Comparing the original VW Beetle with the new one, or the old and new Minis, is really revealing. Cars really have bulked up over the past 10-20 years. Which means more weight, which means poorer gas mileage.

I'd say the Insight is really not much smaller than either the New Beetle (I park next to one) or the new Mini, and neither of those is commonly referred to as "tiny" by today's standards.

Hi Sprucetop:

___We have reported on Prius III rumors pretty well around these parts over the past 9 months ;) We will post about new rumors as they arrive as well :D

___Good Luck

___Wayne

Can anyone explain what is meant by Japan's standard fuel cycle?

From Edmonds "Honda is currently winning the hybrid image war in Japan with the tiny Insight coupe, which manages 102 mpg in Japan's standard fuel cycle. The Prius is just a whisker behind at 99 mpg (35 km/l). But now comes news that Toyota is determined to hit 40 km/l (113 mpg) with the next Prius. Of course, these are Japanese fuel-economy figures, which will not translate directly to real-world driving conditions in the U.S."

Hello Cuchulain

Fuel economy in Japan is currently measured using the 10-15 mode test.
The first part which has 10 steps reaches 40km/h and is repeated 3 times. The second part has 15 steps, reaches 70km/h and is done once. The total time for both tests is 660s (11min). The test is done on a roller (i.e. no wind effect), with no A/C and engine is prewarmed. It is a very mild test.

The link shows a graph of speeds and time in seconds. (although in Japanese)
http://www.eccj.or.jp/databook/1998/p96.html

Good Luck
Andrew

:woot:

So here is a Thread on the Prius III. :D

Just want to make sure I don't miss any updates on this New-Ride. ;)

Terry (tiger) :flag:

:D

http://www.cleanmpg.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4522

Hi All:

___I cannot wait :D

___Good Luck

___Wayne

This appeared on an EV site in Japan without any links but anyway....

Japanese P-in hybrid AER may reach 30km 2007/06/19
Toyota, the leading hybrid car maker, will set the all electric range spec of their under developing P-in hybrid car. That is almost the same as EPA short time target.

The site link is
http://www.itsev.com/e/

In the Japanese version, they say it is planned for release in Japan.

Whether it will be in the first release of the PIII is debateable, 18.5 mile AER range is not too bad to start.

Good Luck
Andrew