MaxxMPG
02-14-2011, 11:49 PM
Goodyear Assurance Fuel Max tires are doing what they do best...
Saving fuel. :)
Back in May 2010, a friend of mine bought a 2001 Chrysler Voyager minivan off Craigslist. It's a shortie with dual sliders and it has the 2.4L four cylinder and 3 speed automatic transmission. It was the last year for the 3 speed, and so that was the one we wanted. He didn't have much money to spend (only the tax refund) and needed a minivan for the kids, so this was the best option for the money. The prior owner used synthetic oil throughout the life of the van, and so it still is running synthetic. All maintenance is up to date and it runs like a top. To date it has been completely trouble free.
He bought it knowing it needed tires, and I told him that the FuelMax tires were the way to go for saving fuel - to the point of paying for themselves over the life of the tire. So he got a set, and we pumped em up to 44psi. The van rode great and it would glide for quite a while.
So the hardware is in place for some good numbers!
Leading up to the purchase last May, I would drive him down to check out the van and decide if it was worth buying, and then back to complete the transaction. Along the way, I would demonstrate what we would know as beginner and intermediate techniques. He was fascinated by the aFCD on the dash and I showed him a recent fuel receipt showing the numbers from the last tank. He said it was unbelievable, and I told him to start believing, because anyone can do this in any car. Soon after taking delivery of the van, he had the new tires installed.
Once he had the Fuel Max tires on the van, I started really hammering home the basics. Accelerate to 35 (40 zone), and back off the pedal and let it glide. And glide it would. Let me tell you - I wish there was a faster way to say "take your foot off the pedal!" - both gas and brake. I don't know why people have this compulsion to push either pedal - or even both!
Within a month of buying the van, he was laid off. Money got really tight. The van started coming in very handy, but there wasn't much cash to fuel up. He started seriously applying what I taught him. And he started noticing that he was able to go four or five days without adding gas instead of only two or three. But since he wasn't really tracking gallons or miles, there was no target for him to meet-n-beat.
On 2/1/11, he was over here and I had him stop for gas. A big storm was coming and he was under 1/4 tank, and facing a 30 mile trip home in flurries and freezing rain. I swiped my credit card and filled the tank to first click. Took 15.755 gallons. That was good to know in that the 20 gallon tank seems to have a few extra gallons in reserve. I reset the trip odometer and sent him on his way.
Earlier today, he wrote this to me in an email -
The gasoline is still in there and Im approching 400 miles-definitely will get 20 maybe 22 mpg all local.
Now tonight, with the gage just under 1/4, he stopped by and I told him I needed to go to the post office to mail my e-File tax signature forms, and so he can drive me. Knowing the gas gage was low, my plan was to get him out in the van again so we could stop and I could fill the tank and get the #gallons. And so we did.
Now, for this van (2.4L, 3AT), the EPA estimates are as follows:
18/22, 19 combined on the 08 EPA
20/24, 22 combined on the 85-07 EPA (window sticker)
So I figured his "20 maybe 22" for mostly suburban stop-n-go would already be hitting the EPA if not slightly exceeding it.
So we get to the gas station and fill 'er up with regular E10 sludge and get some numbers.
Trip Odometer - 405.1 miles
Gas pump reads - 16.284 gallons
Tank MPG - 24.88 MPG :D
You have to imagine this - We pump the gas, and we are sitting in the van. Engine off. I am looking at the numbers - "16 gallons over 400 miles is 25. This is about 16 and 1/4, and at 25MPG, 1/4 gallon takes you 6.3 miles, and you're at 405.1, so you're just a tick under 25." And he's saying, "No way! That's impossible" I told him the numbers don't lie - same pump, same direction, first click. Gage read over F when the key was set to "on".
He sounded like a kid on Christmas morning. He was really trying his best to use everything I taught him and he really wanted to tell me how well he did because he figured if I bought him a tank of gas, he knew I would want him to stretch it as far as he could. But he was thinking, "400 miles, 20 gallon tank, is 20mpg, but it doesn't show empty so maybe I got 22." I think he's been hanging around me too long, he's thinking of how to stretch MPG every time he turns the key. Within the past week, he checked the tire pressure and was upset to see it at only 36. I told him that was because it was 15 degrees when you checked it, and 80 degrees when we added the air last year. As we all know, lower temperature means lower pressure. What impressed me most is that someone who is definitely not a car guy is out there in the arctic blast checking his tire pressure, and working fervently (and getting pretty good) at light timing - to get a few extra miles on a tank.
So I told him that he beat the hell out of the EPA in the dead of winter, with temperatures between 10F and 35F, including a few days with Wind Advisories, and a snow storm within the two weeks since last fill . And he drives about 80% around town - not much available in open-road options. I told him that - in terms of fuel economy - local driving isn't a death sentence, but it is a fight to the death. And you can do it if you really want to.
I am really proud of him. His 80/20 city/highway mix beat the highway pre-08 EPA. Compare to the '08 EPA's 19mpg combined and he's at 131%.
When he first got the van, I told him that if he made the commitment to change his driving, he should expect no less than 20 city, 25 average, and over 30 on the highway. He had that "yeah, right" look on his face. I don't think he was doubting me but rather doubting himself and his skills. Well, tonight, I reminded him of that conversation and I told him that an open road trip in the low 30s, in fair weather, now seems pretty achievable, doesn't it?
After being depressed while thinking he was pushing his limits and getting 20 or 22, thinking his best attempt wasn't good enough, he was ready for battle by the time he got the real numbers. With renewed encouragement, he's ready to do battle on the next tank and beat the current numbers.
Epilogue - While we were discussing the numbers, I was watching the light at the corner. We reset the trip odometer by keying on while ICE off. I told him to start the engine and drive - just off idle - and only when I tell him to. He asked why and I said, "Just wait and you will find out". So I tell him when and he started the engine and drove off, goosing the accelerator to get the van to walking speed and then off the pedal. Rolled out of the station and into the right lane. "No pedals", I said as the van entered the lane. There was nobody behind us for half a mile. So he rolls along and as we get close to the three cars stopped ahead, the light changes to green. I said again, "No pedals", and he rolled up to the car ahead just as it started to move. I then told him that I was watching the light as we chatted and that I figured the right time to start the engine so we could get out on the road as the light changed. I said that is one of many tricks you use to avoid idling. We turn the corner and get to the next traffic light that has a sensor. I tell him roll up and slow to almost stopped (but don't stop) when I tell you and then off the brake. We do this as I point out the sensor in the road. Then we roll forward at idle creep and the light goes green. Again, he laughs in amazement. I tell him, "Traffic lights only trash your fuel economy if you have to stop for them. Part of the strategy is learning how to minimize that effect".
So as of tonight, he has another full tank and is ready to push the limits of his newfound skills.
Saving fuel. :)
Back in May 2010, a friend of mine bought a 2001 Chrysler Voyager minivan off Craigslist. It's a shortie with dual sliders and it has the 2.4L four cylinder and 3 speed automatic transmission. It was the last year for the 3 speed, and so that was the one we wanted. He didn't have much money to spend (only the tax refund) and needed a minivan for the kids, so this was the best option for the money. The prior owner used synthetic oil throughout the life of the van, and so it still is running synthetic. All maintenance is up to date and it runs like a top. To date it has been completely trouble free.
He bought it knowing it needed tires, and I told him that the FuelMax tires were the way to go for saving fuel - to the point of paying for themselves over the life of the tire. So he got a set, and we pumped em up to 44psi. The van rode great and it would glide for quite a while.
So the hardware is in place for some good numbers!
Leading up to the purchase last May, I would drive him down to check out the van and decide if it was worth buying, and then back to complete the transaction. Along the way, I would demonstrate what we would know as beginner and intermediate techniques. He was fascinated by the aFCD on the dash and I showed him a recent fuel receipt showing the numbers from the last tank. He said it was unbelievable, and I told him to start believing, because anyone can do this in any car. Soon after taking delivery of the van, he had the new tires installed.
Once he had the Fuel Max tires on the van, I started really hammering home the basics. Accelerate to 35 (40 zone), and back off the pedal and let it glide. And glide it would. Let me tell you - I wish there was a faster way to say "take your foot off the pedal!" - both gas and brake. I don't know why people have this compulsion to push either pedal - or even both!
Within a month of buying the van, he was laid off. Money got really tight. The van started coming in very handy, but there wasn't much cash to fuel up. He started seriously applying what I taught him. And he started noticing that he was able to go four or five days without adding gas instead of only two or three. But since he wasn't really tracking gallons or miles, there was no target for him to meet-n-beat.
On 2/1/11, he was over here and I had him stop for gas. A big storm was coming and he was under 1/4 tank, and facing a 30 mile trip home in flurries and freezing rain. I swiped my credit card and filled the tank to first click. Took 15.755 gallons. That was good to know in that the 20 gallon tank seems to have a few extra gallons in reserve. I reset the trip odometer and sent him on his way.
Earlier today, he wrote this to me in an email -
The gasoline is still in there and Im approching 400 miles-definitely will get 20 maybe 22 mpg all local.
Now tonight, with the gage just under 1/4, he stopped by and I told him I needed to go to the post office to mail my e-File tax signature forms, and so he can drive me. Knowing the gas gage was low, my plan was to get him out in the van again so we could stop and I could fill the tank and get the #gallons. And so we did.
Now, for this van (2.4L, 3AT), the EPA estimates are as follows:
18/22, 19 combined on the 08 EPA
20/24, 22 combined on the 85-07 EPA (window sticker)
So I figured his "20 maybe 22" for mostly suburban stop-n-go would already be hitting the EPA if not slightly exceeding it.
So we get to the gas station and fill 'er up with regular E10 sludge and get some numbers.
Trip Odometer - 405.1 miles
Gas pump reads - 16.284 gallons
Tank MPG - 24.88 MPG :D
You have to imagine this - We pump the gas, and we are sitting in the van. Engine off. I am looking at the numbers - "16 gallons over 400 miles is 25. This is about 16 and 1/4, and at 25MPG, 1/4 gallon takes you 6.3 miles, and you're at 405.1, so you're just a tick under 25." And he's saying, "No way! That's impossible" I told him the numbers don't lie - same pump, same direction, first click. Gage read over F when the key was set to "on".
He sounded like a kid on Christmas morning. He was really trying his best to use everything I taught him and he really wanted to tell me how well he did because he figured if I bought him a tank of gas, he knew I would want him to stretch it as far as he could. But he was thinking, "400 miles, 20 gallon tank, is 20mpg, but it doesn't show empty so maybe I got 22." I think he's been hanging around me too long, he's thinking of how to stretch MPG every time he turns the key. Within the past week, he checked the tire pressure and was upset to see it at only 36. I told him that was because it was 15 degrees when you checked it, and 80 degrees when we added the air last year. As we all know, lower temperature means lower pressure. What impressed me most is that someone who is definitely not a car guy is out there in the arctic blast checking his tire pressure, and working fervently (and getting pretty good) at light timing - to get a few extra miles on a tank.
So I told him that he beat the hell out of the EPA in the dead of winter, with temperatures between 10F and 35F, including a few days with Wind Advisories, and a snow storm within the two weeks since last fill . And he drives about 80% around town - not much available in open-road options. I told him that - in terms of fuel economy - local driving isn't a death sentence, but it is a fight to the death. And you can do it if you really want to.
I am really proud of him. His 80/20 city/highway mix beat the highway pre-08 EPA. Compare to the '08 EPA's 19mpg combined and he's at 131%.
When he first got the van, I told him that if he made the commitment to change his driving, he should expect no less than 20 city, 25 average, and over 30 on the highway. He had that "yeah, right" look on his face. I don't think he was doubting me but rather doubting himself and his skills. Well, tonight, I reminded him of that conversation and I told him that an open road trip in the low 30s, in fair weather, now seems pretty achievable, doesn't it?
After being depressed while thinking he was pushing his limits and getting 20 or 22, thinking his best attempt wasn't good enough, he was ready for battle by the time he got the real numbers. With renewed encouragement, he's ready to do battle on the next tank and beat the current numbers.
Epilogue - While we were discussing the numbers, I was watching the light at the corner. We reset the trip odometer by keying on while ICE off. I told him to start the engine and drive - just off idle - and only when I tell him to. He asked why and I said, "Just wait and you will find out". So I tell him when and he started the engine and drove off, goosing the accelerator to get the van to walking speed and then off the pedal. Rolled out of the station and into the right lane. "No pedals", I said as the van entered the lane. There was nobody behind us for half a mile. So he rolls along and as we get close to the three cars stopped ahead, the light changes to green. I said again, "No pedals", and he rolled up to the car ahead just as it started to move. I then told him that I was watching the light as we chatted and that I figured the right time to start the engine so we could get out on the road as the light changed. I said that is one of many tricks you use to avoid idling. We turn the corner and get to the next traffic light that has a sensor. I tell him roll up and slow to almost stopped (but don't stop) when I tell you and then off the brake. We do this as I point out the sensor in the road. Then we roll forward at idle creep and the light goes green. Again, he laughs in amazement. I tell him, "Traffic lights only trash your fuel economy if you have to stop for them. Part of the strategy is learning how to minimize that effect".
So as of tonight, he has another full tank and is ready to push the limits of his newfound skills.
