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Time for new tries for my '08 Fit Sport.
What do you guys think of this tire? $394 to my door. I can mount them and balance them


http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Yokohama&tireModel=AVID+ENVigor+(H%26V)&partnum=955VR5ENV&vehicleSearch=false&fromCompare1=yes

At a rating 560 AA I'd bet it lasts and rolls better then the OEM Dunlap's????


With this size 195/55 15 the Ultra low rolling Hi Mileage tries are not made.
I want to stay with the OEM size and rating.

Time for new tries for my '08 Fit Sport.
What do you guys think of this tire? $394 to my door. I can mount them and balance them


http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Yokohama&tireModel=AVID+ENVigor+(H%26V)&partnum=955VR5ENV&vehicleSearch=false&fromCompare1=yes

At a rating 560 AA I'd bet it lasts and rolls better then the OEM Dunlap's????


With this size 195/55 15 the Ultra low rolling Hi Mileage tries are not made.
I want to stay with the OEM size and rating.

Tread ware does not equal better fuel efficiency.
Fuel Efficiency is more based on tread design and material that makes up the tire.

Those tires you posted will probably make your fuel efficiency go down.

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Continental&tireModel=ContiProContact&partnum=955VR5CPCXL&vehicleSearch=true&fromCompare1=yes&autoMake=Honda&autoYear=2008&autoModel=Fit%20Sport&autoModClar=&tab=Survey

I found LRR tires for your size.

Most are not happy with the FE drop. The other qualities are good. H

Have a look at Michelin energy savers. Not sure about the price, but should be about the same as the Yokohama tires?

They're really bloody expensive. For 185/65/R15 they run 122/tire at tire rack without shipping. However, Sam's Club carries them so you might be able to find them locally (or at least have Sam's order them warehouse to store for free). I, however, dig them ;).

Tread ware does not equal better fuel efficiency.
I found LRR tires for your size.
That's great but for that to be any value to me, why not post what you found as in a link or OEM name tire model.
195/55 R15 V rated

OK Everyone that took a steam poo on my tire find. Make your input credible with a link to what's better and if you have the facts Why is the tire you have better for FE and ware my two goals.
thanks:D

This lists why the Energy Savers are about as good as it gets for mileage. http://www.cleanmpg.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24904

Sad to say... Tirerack doesn't have Mich Fuel savers or Goodyear Fuel Max tires

So with all that... does anyone really have a better tire I could buy? Remember the Dunlap P31 was not a FE tire. It is a Performance tire as it sharp corners and speed.

Need some truth and facts guys....as in buy this or that but it has to be the same size and speed rating.

Don't have to be mail order either. Any brand is A-OK with me. Also Price is not a concern if it's a proven tire for this task.....

Thanks

This lists why the Energy Savers are about as good as it gets for mileage. http://www.cleanmpg.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24904

Thanks That's a good read.

Your stock tire size is 195/55R15, which has an outside diameter of 23.4", according to the calculator here:

http://www.onlineconversion.com/tire_size_conversion.htm

If you went to 185/60R15 the O.D would be 23.7", which is very close, would make your gearing slightly taller, and opens up your options somewhat. Bridgestone Insignia SE200 are available in that size.

For Michelin Energy Saver A/S you'd need to go to 185/65R15, which pushing your O.D. further, to 24.5". This is likely further than you want to go.

How about going to a regular Fit tire size? This page has the 2008 Fit Specifications:

http://www.canadiandriver.com/2007/12/06/buyers-guide-2008-honda-fit.htm/2

The regular Fit tire is 175/65R14. The O.D. on that tire is 23". The Bridgestone Insignia SE200 is available in that size. The Michelin Energy Saver A/S is not. Feeding in a base 2008 Fit on Costco (USA I assume) I get these:

http://tires2.costco.com/SearchResults.aspx?SearchID=49e6af0a-80f6-4ba7-93c0-9ce0ef5611cf

The Michelin MX4 is one of Costco's offerings, and might have middling Rolling Resistance.

Anyway, sticking to your stock 15" rims, I'd say the Bridgestone Insignia SE200 in 185/60R15 is best bet, assuming it's compatible with your rim width. It will make your gearing a bit taller though, and throw the odometer off a bit.

Bottom line: part-and-parcel of "sport" is bigger, lower profile tires, and they often sacrifice RR for traction and handling.

Tread ware does not equal better fuel efficiency.
Those tires you posted will probably make your fuel efficiency go down.

Can you tell me how you came up with that conclusion? Do you know what's on the Fit now?

Thanks

Probably Dunlap? H

Can you tell me how you came up with that conclusion? Do you know what's on the Fit now?

Thanks

Weird on tire rack they are not listed as Low Rolling Resistance.
Yet they advertise it like this.

Excellent Fuel Efficiency
# ALL-NEW SLICA COMPOUND — Delivers ultra-low rolling resistance for increased fuel efficiency, without sacrifying treadlife, comfort or grip on dry, wet or snow-covered roads.

I put Khumos on my 07 FIT. The reviews called for better mpgs, but I didn't see that. They are nicer than the stock Dunlops however. Quiet tire.

Kumho has a new tire, the Eco Solus, that's designed for low RR.

Kumho has a new tire, the Eco Solus, that's designed for low RR.

The Kumho eco Solus KR22. And on the site mentioned above, it's available in the 185/60-15 size. Although roughly 3/8" narrower and 1/4" taller than stock, the cost, treadwear rating of 800 and LRR design seem to make them a very interesting option for long life and the potential for improved fuel economy. Initial reviews are positive for handling and ride quality as well.

Weird on tire rack they are not listed as Low Rolling Resistance.
Yet they advertise it like this.

Excellent Fuel Efficiency
# ALL-NEW SLICA COMPOUND — Delivers ultra-low rolling resistance for increased fuel efficiency, without sacrifying treadlife, comfort or grip on dry, wet or snow-covered roads.

That's what I saw + unlike some of the others suggested, this one has a 51PSI side wall press rating. A few of us ran the P31's at 60psi and saw a nice bump in FE. Was thinking this tire may work well like that as well.
TR person said they are very new and very popular FIT Sport tire yet I have not seen any Fit owners with it.

Let me look into the Khumos brand.

Guys As mentioned I want to stay with same size and speed rating, for liabilty reasons.

The GY FuelMax on my van are 51 psi.

Read this. About about to get them.
http://www.yokohamatire.com/tires/avid_envigor.pdf

I have/had Yokohama tires on two different vehicles, and old Saturn that's long gone, and my wife's current Chevy. The Chevy tires are a couple of years old - the Yoko V4S. They must have a fairly high RRC because the car doesn't coast as well as my car (same exact car) with the stock ContiSkidMeisters. But the Yoko V4S has great steering response, good traction for braking and cornering in both wet and dry, and they are remaining quiet as they wear. What I don't like about them is that they are wearing very quickly (but evenly), they are horrible in snow (but we use Blizzaks between Halloween and Easter), and they howl on some road surfaces. You can't compare my experience with the V4S because the ENVigor is an entirely different design. What I can say is that Yokohama tires seem to be very well made - they balance easily, they never bubble or split, and they wear evenly at a wide range of pressures.

It seems like you've done your homework, and I say go for the ENVigor since you feel comfortable with the decision. The fact that they are touting the RRC in their brochure means that you have a better than average chance of getting the LRR design along with the great traction and handling.

I'm geting off on a tanget.....

Turns out my Co has a special deal and I can get these OEM Dunlap SP1's for about $76 each. So I called Goodyear (the host for this deal) to check into availability. He says for sure they have to be ordered and as they are not stocked, it could be an issue if a replacement is needed. So he looks into other tires on this plan. He calls back and says Kelly makes that size and the price is $53/ for the Kelly Charge GT. So I look into the GT and it is void of any detail as far as rolling resistance. Look like a cheap tire, but V rated with 51psi side wall
http://www.kellytires.com/cfmx/web/kellytiresel/details.cfm?product=34&cartireid=76434

I think the AVID ENVigor, even though more expensive, is still looking like the right move but the OEM Dunlap's did OK

Any other thoughts?
Anyone have any experience with these Charger GT tires?

Whatever you do, don't get the tires lnmcmahan got. He only replaced a pair, and it dropped his mileage 10%. He didn't say the model, but they were BF Goodrich.

Search for "sad tire story" thread title.

Whatever you do, don't get the tires lnmcmahan got. He only replaced a pair, and it dropped his mileage 10%. He didn't say the model, but they were BF Goodrich.

Search for "sad tire story" thread title.

H-Rated tires will do that due to an extra "cap" ply and therefore more weight. I have BF Goodrich Traction T/A H-Rated tires on the civic & have lost 10-15% compared to my worn ContiProContacts (Grand Touring Tires). Its a tradeoff of MPG for much better wet and dry grip. Depends on what you value. Since my car does track duty on top of Daily Driving, it worked for me.

I know tires can have LRR, Traction, or Treadwear, pick any two. I just haven't been able to find LRR tires with sport-like traction. :(

I pulled the trigger and now I'm the owner of a set of American made Yokohama AVID ENVigor tires. 195/55 R15 V Just under $400 delivered. I truly think it's a better tire then the OEM Dunlap P-31's. It's V rated and claims to be "ultra-low rolling resistance" + with the 51psi side wall I can make them little bricks. The Dunlap was not designed for low rolling resistance as far as I could tell. It was a performance tire. I'll only will see 38,000 on the OEM P-31's and considering how I drive, that is rather poor life. Some got lots of miles on them, but those are long hi-way miles and mine is more mixed.

I plan to mount them when the actual tread indicators show up in 1 or 2k more miles. I have a big shop for the race car so they will rest in there for a few months.

thanks for all the input.

The deal got a little more neat today.

Tire rack $40 rebate for that set of for Yok's
$354.12 for the set to my door.
Can't wait to install them but will run the P-31's till the tread indicator show up. http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/350/yokavidenvigorforfit.jpg

Those tires be sexy.

Never thought I could get so excited over a set of rubbers... ;-)

I hope they work out well for you!

I pulled the trigger and now I'm the owner of a set of American made Yokohama AVID ENVigor tires. 195/55 R15 V Just under $400 delivered. I truly think it's a better tire then the OEM Dunlap P-31's. It's V rated and claims to be "ultra-low rolling resistance" + with the 51psi side wall I can make them little bricks. The Dunlap was not designed for low rolling resistance as far as I could tell. It was a performance tire. I'll only will see 38,000 on the OEM P-31's and considering how I drive, that is rather poor life. Some got lots of miles on them, but those are long hi-way miles and mine is more mixed.

I plan to mount them when the actual tread indicators show up in 1 or 2k more miles. I have a big shop for the race car so they will rest in there for a few months.

thanks for all the input.

Good choice! I put those on my 08Sport. My hwy mpg is up from 46mpg to over 48. I'm thinking I could bust 50mpg if I would spend so much time above 80 and stoping my hard accelerations.

I love how much smoother, quieter and stickier than they are over those Dunlops. I drive hard on mountain roads sometimes and got all kinds of slide and spin on the Dunlops. I get not of that with the Envigor! :Banane09:

PS Being a rare tire size for our car, I'm glad I found that tire. I spent 2months researching tires.