View Full Version : Week of 12/4/2006 - 12/10/2006
brick 12-04-2006, 06:45 AM You know it isn't your fault when numbers keep going up but never get any higher. The trip average kept climbing this morning (35F temps but no frost) only to get knocked down by one obstacle or another. The real killer was picking up all kinds of kinetic energy on the way to the bottom of a "bowl" only to get stopped dead by traffic and forced to crawl out of it. But the Accord still handled the cold like a champ, giving me a 35.5mpg segment in the end. 35.0 tank averages are what I'm shooting for.
Anybody else dread christmas shopping?
Chuck 12-04-2006, 07:34 AM 26F and 68mpg - winter weather is here indeed!
tbaleno 12-04-2006, 10:19 AM It was 11F this morning. And that means remote start. So I took a 5mpg hit just out of the gate. I ended up around 42mpg for the trip in to work.
Chuck 12-04-2006, 11:18 AM It was 11F this morning. And that means remote start. So I took a 5mpg hit just out of the gate. I ended up around 42mpg for the trip in to work.
No autostop this morning?
psyshack 12-04-2006, 12:32 PM Morning drive
Drove the Ranger today. 9F to 20F depending on were I was at on the comute. Really wild temps. These wild temp swings also appeared in the intake air temp. Many detours due to the poor drivers on refrozen hwys. I ave. 27 mpg in the Ranger. Not bad IMO for the morning drive. Will be fun to see what the evening will hold with warmer temps and some thawing of the roads.
Evening drive
The drive home was some what better. Got jammed up in a lot of traffic around the wifes place of work. ( I hate city's ) Temps were at 38F, no wind. about a 50 mile drive like this am. Resulted in 28.2 MPG for the Ranger.
More problems have surfaced with the truck.
psy
tbaleno 12-04-2006, 04:10 PM Delta: I had a few autostop moments. But the cold dropped the battery down to about 10.7V when I was FASing so I eliminated a majority of the FASing to keep the battery charged.
rhwinger 12-05-2006, 05:09 AM 36 degrees this morning, 44 degress yesterday - 62 mpg both times?
Seemed like just last week tried to do my best Wayne impression. FE friendly temps and had to take the kids to school. The engine was already warmed up when we left. Hit the trip reset heading out. Out on the secondary road, I saw 144 mpg - woah! 138 mpg / .3 mi at the next light, so I whipped out the camera phone.
http://www.cleanmpg.com/photos/data/504/thumbs/In_transit.JPG
Drove as carefully as possible to the school - ended with 98.x mpg / 2.5 mi.
http://www.cleanmpg.com/photos/data/504/thumbs/Destination.JPG
It was incredibly exciting to see the 144 mpg, if even only for a fleeting moment!
brick 12-05-2006, 06:53 AM I don't know how cold it was, but my hands were freezing cold by the time the engine was up to temp and the heater was ready to be used. And that was at least 3 or 4 miles. After that I was comfortable but it was a struggle to get any kind of a boost from coasting. Final number was still 34.x without many tricks.
Chuck 12-05-2006, 07:38 AM 72mpg at 30F
psyshack 12-05-2006, 08:28 AM Driving the Civic today.
Morning grind
27f when I left the house. 31f when I arrived at the office. One hour and twenty mins. to drive freaking 42 miles. City's Suck!!!!! Intake air temp ranged from 70f to 83f depending on speed. Ave. for the drive in looks like 43.8 MPG.1f
Evening grind
51f when I left the office. 48f when I arrived home. 15 mins to go less than a mile to get on the freeway. UGH Intake air temp got as high as 107f. Got a 43.8 for the drive home. This should have been a easy 46 mpg run. All the nuts out during the holiday season is awful. I also had some woman behind me and in front of me focusing more on there ****ED cell phones than driving. And then another lady had her GM junk Corsica die. She felt it was necessary to block two lanes. She could only go straight when it died. Why would she then strattle two lanes and not allow myself and three other guys to push her car out of the ****ED road. I ended up having to jump a Curb to get around her.
psy
tbaleno 12-05-2006, 08:44 AM 9F when I left the house. 34mpg. 1 hour to drive 17 miles. I feel your pain.
diamondlarry 12-05-2006, 04:49 PM The temp was 20ish this morning when I started out. The first leg of the trip was 36.6 and the trip to my work was 50.6. By this afternoon the temp had climbed to an almost tropical 26:rolleyes: and my trip back to pick up the wife was 51.0. Got stuck behind a school bus on the way home and ended up with 42.6. Had to run some errands after work and managed a 48.* on the trip there of 15.5 miles. On the return trip I had to make another detour and ended up with 54.1 after 12.8 miles. I then headed home and managed 74.0 on the 5.3 mile trip.:woot:
brick 12-06-2006, 06:22 AM Fuel needle....sinking so fast...19F...frost...snow...send help.
Chuck 12-06-2006, 08:05 AM 72mpg at 35F
Hi All:
___I am thinking about going out again for a Christmas present run into the city. Have to do it within an hour or two otherwise traffic builds into a nightmare … The last Christmas outings w/ the wife at rush hour netted a lousy 29 and 33 mpg segment(s) over almost 50 miles which ruined this tank which is sitting at a paltry 43 :(
___Good Luck
___Wayne
TonyPSchaefer 12-06-2006, 12:24 PM Wayne,
If I trusted the other drivers, I'd loan you Priapus for the trip.
With the cold temps and snow, I'm struggling to get UP into the mid-forties.
Good luck in the city.
Hi Tony:
___About all I can add to that is you have the right car for this time of year given the shopping rush you and I have endured anywhere around Gurnee Mill’s and the rest of Chicago’s northern suburbs right now :( It took over 4 light changes to move 2 blocks to crawl over the Interstate on Half Day the other night. At 11.8 V on the 12V, I have to start the Accord back up and there in lyes the killer ... Just wicked out there for the Accord. Absolutely wicked.
___All the while your Prius is laughing at me :D
___Good Luck
___Wayne
Hi All:
___41 miles out at 43.7 mpg and 41 miles back at 44.9mpg. Not bad for 32 - 33 degree temps. Only one heavy traffic tie up on the Interstate/expressway other then driving ~ 5 miles into the city itself :(
___Good Luck
___Wayne
krousdb 12-06-2006, 06:59 PM It dipped down to 29F for my Tuesday morning drive but I was able to maintiain my normal 64MPG drive to work. I am down about 8 MPG from about 2 months ago when I was enjoying 65F temps on the way to work. About 5 MPG is due to the cooler temps and 2-3 from the removal of the belly pan. I removed it as soon as I put the VX up for sale.
The drive home was over 65MPG at 50ish temps but I drive 5 MPH faster than the morning run. Next Monday I will start driving the Prius again. I expect to lose about 5 MPG. By Wednesday, a very lucky person will be driving off with the VX.
Mileage keeps slipping with the colder weather, but I think I'll still be able to qualify as "Hypermiler" when I pass the 5000 mile mark in a couple of weeks. I'm using the snow tires now, and I've decided I won't FAS unless the pavement is dry and there isn't much traffic around, so it's probably going to get even worse. We're due for our first snowstorm here in NH any day now... What kind of mileage hit can I expect from a good blizzard?
On another note, I added up all the potential slowdowns on my morning commute this morning and this is what I've got: Seven stop signs, one yield sign, one traffic light, and two crossing guards. I figure this is pretty good for 16 miles. How does this compare to other commutes?
tbaleno 12-06-2006, 11:16 PM in my civic hybrid I got about 13 mpg in a fairly big storm (14" of snow or so). So blizzards will nail you pretty hard.
My commute is also 16 miles. 4 Stop signs, 42 stoplights, 2 crossing gards.
philmcneal 12-07-2006, 06:20 AM recovering from the winter! managed to pull my tank average from the low 40's to the high 40's mpg thanks to the warmer weather (9C) . As well since the roads are fine again, time to bring up that tire pressure! Ah what a difference it makes when it comes to coasting, I'm getting those 92 MPG (2.5 LPK) 5 minute segments again (how the prius FE is updated) so sooner or later I'll be able to recover my hypermiler status from the nasty Winter I just experienced.
Although what boos me though and I think this is going to screw up my tank data a lot is that since the weather is warmer... my tank capacity expanded (prius bladder) so boo a lot of gas to show very little distance is going to suck!
8.5 miles and 30 + stoplights to battle on a Monday to Friday basis going to work, those are the best times to improve my tank average since I've been driving on the same route for quite a long time so I got a 90% success rate while timing for the green light. Unfortunately on the weekends where cold trips and unfamiliar roads royally screw me over.
Need to switch over to thinner fluids! I got the stuff but not the motivation.... well I'm just lacking tools. I wonder how much labor would cost hmm...
brick 12-07-2006, 06:32 AM Did a lot better this morning! Nearly touched 36mpg since it's nice and warm. (By warm I mean above freezing.)
TonyPSchaefer 12-07-2006, 08:09 AM When I got in Priapus this morning, he showed 10ºF.
When I arrived at work one hour later: 6ºF.
Started with 44.5 tank average on the MFD, watched it drop to 43.9 within ten minutes but got it back up to 44.6 at arrival. He's so hesitant to stealth in these temps.
Chuck 12-07-2006, 08:54 AM I got 82mpg in 35F weather....and a spare on one of the front tires. :o
The bad tire took a tack last night, Firestone fixed it (or so I thought), but it was flat this morning. They look at it again to see if the tire needs replacing. Fortunately I have road hazard coverage. :)
Pravus Prime 12-07-2006, 10:03 PM Was almost in a wreck this week.
At I-696 and I-75, on 696 heading E, in an area that's pretty well known as having a lot of accidents. I was moving along, CC at 65 MPH, in the middle right lane (5 lanes) When a Jeep who wanted to get onto 75 jumped from the middle lane, to the right lane, to the rightmost lane. However, the rightmost lane was congested with traffic, and he didn't really make it over, leaving his end hanging out into the right middle lane.
I had to slam on the brakes, and the car behind me almost hit me, as I almost hit the Jeep.
Fortunately, there was no wreck. But it wasn't for a lack of trying on the Jeep's behalf.
Chuck 12-08-2006, 08:42 AM 70mpg at 20F.
it could have been 85mpg at 85F.
The second light from work sometimes does not turn green for five minutes at times. :confused: Coolant went from 190F to 160F. :(
psyshack 12-08-2006, 10:25 AM Yesterday was a interesting day.
We drove the Ranger in. When I turned it over to the wife when I got to my office. The gas gauge was still above Full with 27 mpg on the SG. When she returned to pick me up it was on 3/4 of a tank. Her Tulsa city driving had brought it down to like 12 mpg. I have no idea how she does it at times. NONE! I take over for some Tulsa driving to go pick up some of our new furniture. I get it back up to 20 mpg. We then load the truck down with 2ea. night stands on the tool box. A chesser, Head Board, Foot Board, Rails, a Kitchen Table and Base. All in box's. I strap it all down on off we go. The truck is loaded down and Ive interduced more drag. :)
I managed 24 mpg for the trip home loaded.
Today we are going back to pick up the High Boy, 2ea. Table chairs and exchange the table base for the right one. :(
The new furniture is mine and the wifes Christmas present to our self's.
This is the bedroom suite. http://www.furniturerow.com/group_detail/brand/bedroom_expressions/id/50/
The table and chairs. http://www.furniturerow.com/group_detail/brand/oak_express/id/243/
Will post my efforts later on todays trip. With the wifes rump firmly planted in the passengers seat. :)
rhwinger 12-08-2006, 03:11 PM Well, I wasn't trying to haul furniture in my Civic, but I might as well been dragging a concrete block.
Started out okay with 26 degrees and a 60 mpg segment going to work, but it was a big mess in homeward bound traffic today with 36 degree temps. At one point I was looking at 42 mpg - just couldn't believe it. Manged to get out of one big traffic jam right into another smaller one. Finished up with 47 mpg - a new low. I think the last time I saw this was either the day I bought the car, or when my wife returned the car from one of her trips. Ugh.
Hi All:
___Temps from 3 – 25 degrees F. The high 30’s/low 40’s came in the 3 - 12 degree stuff :( 39.8 in, 41.3 back, 39.1 in and 46.1 back (25 degrees and a nice tail wind this morning, yahoo!!!). Tank is sitting at 42.4 which is a low since last winter’s nightmares …
___Good Luck
___Wayne
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