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I'm kind of bored right now and I need you guys to tell me things that annoy you about the site or things you want to see. I want to do some more stuff on the site but I want to know what you guys think the priorities should be.

It may be something I promissed to do a while ago, or it may be something new. Let me know.

I would really like to see the FE graph that you demonstrated in another thread. It's definitely a "want" as opposed to a "need," but is the only thing the database lacks IMO. (Unless you implemented it and I'm too slow to find it.)

The only thing that I don't like, and maybe is more important, has to do with the GreenLeaf theme. I love the aesthetics, but I tend to stick with the Default style because otherwise it's a bit tougher to see at a glance which forums have new messages. The needle works but it could be improved if there were greater contrast to catch the eye. Maybe a color change or something? Or as simple as a bolder outline?

Something that Wayne asked for over at Greenhybrid was a way to record best segment in the Mileage Database, it may have to be a separate database, also it would be nice to look at MPG for the last 90 days rather than only lifetime. For Prius MPG over the last 3 months, nobody comes close to Carl H over at Greenhybrid (My Precious Prius). Going back to May 16 until Oct 5 (almost 5 months) he has driven 4996 miles used 61.85 gal of gas or an 80.8 MPG avg! Only Insight drivers have done better as far as I know. When you only look at lifetime MPG (his is very good at 60.6 MPG) you miss his incredible performance this summer and fall, also us cold weather drivers from the North take a hit in the winter and can't manage to keep the high MPG year round of those in warmer climates.

Dennis

How about making it so the definition of "new posts" persists
across sessions, i.e. fixing the problem that if I read a few
"new" things and then come back in later with a new bbsession
cookie, the things I didn't read yet don't simply vanish?
.
_H*

I'm annoyed by the text and banner that hog the top of the page such than when I open a thread I can't even see the first post in the thread until I scroll down a full page.

Do we really need 2 banners at the top? Can we move one to the bottom?

How about making it so the definition of "new posts" persists
across sessions, i.e. fixing the problem that if I read a few
"new" things and then come back in later with a new bbsession
cookie, the things I didn't read yet don't simply vanish?
.
_H*

Sorry, but that would mean hacking into the code itself. The major problem with that is every time we upgrade I would have to rewrite the code.

What I do is just use recent posts. and look down the list for what I haven't read. It is annoying, but it isn't something easily fixable and that would be persistent among upgrades. If I ever get a brainstorm on how to fix this in a simple way that wouldn't be too bad to port across upgrades I will defiantly do it. I think there are a lot of people that don't like this either.

I'm annoyed by the text and banner that hog the top of the page such than when I open a thread I can't even see the first post in the thread until I scroll down a full page.

Do we really need 2 banners at the top? Can we move one to the bottom?

I will see if something can be done to clean it up.

Sorry, but that would mean hacking into the code itself. The major problem with that is every time we upgrade I would have to rewrite the code.

What I do is just use recent posts. and look down the list for what I haven't read. It is annoying, but it isn't something easily fixable and that would be persistent among upgrades. If I ever get a brainstorm on how to fix this in a simple way that wouldn't be too bad to port across upgrades I will defiantly do it. I think there are a lot of people that don't like this either.

I do this too but, since I work with alluminum all day long, I think Alzheimers kicks in and I forget what I have or have not read.:p An easy fix would be welcome.
Another request might be a link to new posts/today's posts at the bottom of the page in addition to the one at the top. This is a minor thing so only if it can be done easily.

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Originally Posted by efusco
I'm annoyed by the text and banner that hog the top of the page such than when I open a thread I can't even see the first post in the thread until I scroll down a full page.
Do we really need 2 banners at the top? Can we move one to the bottom?

And
I will see if something can be done to clean it up.

For instance: When I go to post on a thread the ad banner is with me again at the top af that page. I don't need to see it on that page, as I have gone there for one purpose only.

Could we possibly see adds only on the home page?, as we all have to go there anyway to login. Once we have seen them there, we could go about reading threads without having to see them on each page.

Not complaining, just responding.

Randall

Good idea. I'll check into it. The only reason for ads on pages when viewing threads are for guests that come here using a link from another site.

Another thing I could do is maybe only show ads to guests on the thread viewing pages.

Okay. Things I have done. 1) header is only on forum home page for Registered users. 2) I think I found a way to make it so it doesn't automaticaly mark messages read (at least for 10 days or so).

I will probably remove the ads on all pages except the main forum page for Registered users, but I haven't gotten around to that yet.

Let me know if any of these changes have unwanted consequences.

Okay. Things I have done. 2) I think I found a way to make it so it doesn't automaticaly mark messages read (at least for 10 days or so).



Let me know if any of these changes have unwanted consequences.

Cool! I was hoping my 'puter hadn't messed up.:p I checked awhile ago and found threads that I was pretty sure I had read showing as un-read. Thank goodnes this didn't happen early in the morning or I would have been confused all day.:confused: You're doing an awesome job Tom! Keep up the great work.

I don't understand why the new-posts code would even be an
issue. Every other PHP-based bboard system I use does the right
thing, marking stuff I've genuinely read as "old" and keeping
those states across any and all visits. Since almost all these
bboard systems stem from a common codebase, how did this one
go so irrevocably wrong, and what are its producers/maintainers
doing to fix it? If it's at that deep a source level, and is
perceived as a real problem [your call..] then it should go right
back into the laps of the people who screwed the pooch in the
first place.
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_H*

Yeah. Well. We will see if it is fixed. I think I had a setting wrong that I never knew existed. This software has literaly hundred of configurable options.

Let me know if it is working for you now

Ah, I think you've nailed it. When I saw "the threads below have
not been updated since your last visit but still contain unread
posts." I thought "hmm, this is promising" ... so I tried exiting
and coming back in with a new session-ID, and the board now seems
to be a> remembering what I'd read in the previous session, and
b> showing me stuff I haven't yet where it used to simply return
empty search results if I tried the same thing before.
.
Thank you!! What was the setting, so we can all learn from it
and tell other bboard operators where to look?
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_H*

under general options. It is item Thread/Forum Read Marking Type. I had it set to inactivity cookie based. I needed to set it to Database (no automatic forum marking).

Hi Tom:

___Now that you have found that magic switch to make Hobbit happy, you can easily make everyone else happy with a lot less work imho :D

___Keep up the great work on the secret project is all ;)

___Good Luck

___Wayne

Something that Wayne asked for over at Greenhybrid was a way to record best segment in the Mileage Database, it may have to be a separate database, also it would be nice to look at MPG for the last 90 days rather than only lifetime. For Prius MPG over the last 3 months, nobody comes close to Carl H over at Greenhybrid (My Precious Prius). Going back to May 16 until Oct 5 (almost 5 months) he has driven 4996 miles used 61.85 gal of gas or an 80.8 MPG avg! Only Insight drivers have done better as far as I know. When you only look at lifetime MPG (his is very good at 60.6 MPG) you miss his incredible performance this summer and fall, also us cold weather drivers from the North take a hit in the winter and can't manage to keep the high MPG year round of those in warmer climates.

Dennis

Hi Tom,

I assume because you ignored this it is too much work to play with the database or you like it as is, my thinking was you could show both lifetime mpg and mpg over last 90 days or the last 10 tanks (whatever you think is best) and then users could sort data by one or the other, the segment idea is less important though I think it would be interesting for segments of 30 miles or more.

Dennis



Dennis

No one said I ignored it. I just haven't responded to it ;) too different things. I'm constantly jumping between projects and just because you don't see something you want doesn't mean it is being ignored. However, the best way to get me to do stuff is to nag me about it. the more nagging I get about a particular thing the more priority I put on it. Look at how many times hobbit had to complain about the new post problem.

So just keep bring up things if they havent been done. This will make sure they stay on the top of the list.

Tom, please don't consider this a nag:p but, I would like to put my vote in for 90 day and segment options. I hadn't thought of it before, but those sound like they could be useful tools. No hurry. Oh, the read/unread posts work flawlessly now. Thanks.

Cool. Well, if I don't consider it a nag then it won't go up on the list fo things to do ;)

But I guess I will count it anyway. Any more votes for this feature?

Thanks for the response Tom. You had posted responses to others, so I wasn't sure what you (or others) thought of the idea.

Dennis

No problem. Sorry I missed responding to you. I think you will like what I'm thing of doing ;)

Tom

I think the 90 day thing is nice.

But I dont know about segment. I could go out and do a unreal Wayne type, not real world segment for me and post a great number. I guess I dont see the value in a segment database.

Hi Psy:

___The unreal stuff belongs to those that have unlimited country roads to play on. I only get to play on those maybe 3% of the Accords 63K miles :( You are right though, pushing out a 90 + mpg segment in your Civic would not be much trouble for a 20 - 40 mile segment or so. Every day? You may as well PHEV-20 a used Prius II or build an EV and be done with gasoline altogether if you are going to play that game day in and out.

___Note to self. Next house - up on a slight hill with country roads from drive all the way to work. And within 10 miles … Next car? Used Lean-burn capable CRX w/ a FAS switch. Leanburn is only used for the occasional highway romps … Never mind, give me the country road within 10 miles of work and the Ranger P/U will be doing Insight numbers year round ;)

___Good Luck

___Wayne

Wayne, You would have loads of fun around here where I live. I have those unlimited country roads you mentioned and I have my injector kill/FAS switch.:D Also, the trip from my house to my wife's work and from there to my work is ~15 miles. Maybe you need to bring your Ranger or Accord and show me what's really possible.:)

Sounds like a throwdown!

Sounds like a throwdown!

Actually, I'm trying to get some hands on training on familiar roads that I would use every day.:p ;)

Hi Larry:

___The Ranger is good for between 60 and 75 when pushed on those type of roads and conditions (SG-II equipped Ranger has shown me south of 72 mpg's over 15 miles earlier this fall) and I think you already know as much as I do given your daily grind and your most recent Saturn’s tank data. Kicking @$$ and taking no prisoners is how I would describe your Hypermiling capabilities today ;)

___Good Luck

___Wayne

Segments......schmegments......

We should start with year 'round data.
I made this statement on another forum, and I still say a hypermiler status should not only include requirements based on exceding the EPA numbers, but doing it for a 12 month period.

A segment is good for nothing but pictures, as you haven't got me back to where I started.
Same with the year around. If I don't post my winter mileage, then you see only my summer segment.

Randall

Hi Randall:

___I would not suggest anyone post just segments as they mean nothing either but it is nice to see them every once in a while ;) Year round cumulative is the only way to measure and display.

___Good Luck

___Wayne

So something like this?

http://www.cleanmpg.com/garage/images/his1.png

Those types of sigs have been added to the regular sigs. The next time you add a tank they will be created. Just add his in front of the carid.png for instance my additonal sigs are his1.png, his1L.png, his1UK.png

It was kind of hacked together so you might want to double check the numbers manually.

From Tom, back on page 2........

I will probably remove the ads on all pages except the main forum page for Registered users, but I haven't gotten around to that yet.

Just a reminder.........

Don't forget the Gallery pic upload page, as I was just there, and the banner causes you to have to scroll down to get to the process button. Would be much smooooother if I didn't have to scroll down.:D

Randall

Randall,
12 month is fine with me, certainly better than lifetime. Those from the north are at a bit of a disadvantage though as far as posting great 12 month data, which is why I suggested 90 days, could be anything, but lifetime makes it hard for those who have just learned how to hypermile to get numbers up if they have been just driving for a couple of years. Segments are interesting (to me at least and once upon a time Wayne asked for this at Green hybrid, but has changed his mind I guess) if they are round trip and more than 50 miles, just to see what someone can do, but I agree that full tanks over many months are much more interesting.

Tom,
I like the sig banner but would suggest 12 mo, 6 mo, 3 mo and lifetime.

Dennis

So then what about the image I posted earlier? It is done and functional. I just don't display it anywhere. But if you have added a tank after I posted there is an image created on the server for you to use as you see fit.

Sorry I didn't realize it was flexible. I like the banner, maybe 4 mo could be changed to 12 month to address the year round thing that Randall mentioned. I think he was talking about 12 month data rather than lifetime, but I may have misinterpreted. What is clear is that he thinks segments are meaningless, I don't agree if we specify round trip segments of 50 miles or more.

Dennis

Looks like it could use a little clean up. Maybe I should make the percent of combined epa smaller.

Sig looks good Tom. Thanks. You prefer 6 over 12 months I assume?

Dennis

It was a tough call. The feeling I got was people wanted a more recent history vs a longer history.

I just added to the mileage database. why does my car still have 0%

http://www.cleanmpg.com/garage/images/227.png

Hi Kickflipjr:

___It just takes a few minutes for the update is all. You are looking like an expert now ;)

___Good Luck

___Wayne

Well That is just the last few months (when I have been going to school and back). My lifetime MPG is around 33mpg. The longer drive and improving my driving has helped.