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Anybody had a shot at one of the Ecoboost engines? I believe the Flex gets the same EPA rating for 3.5L Ecoboost vs. regular 3.5L, but I'm wondering what differences to expect in the real world (and with a bit of HM).

Still hoping for a minivan with a direct injected turbo 4 to be available by the time we really need more seats (than wife's Honda CRV), but the flex looks like an interesting option today.

The EPA #'s for the boosted Flex are not going to impress anyone here. The focus is not FE for Ford. The goal with the Flex is offer superior acceleration with fuel economy on par to rival 7-seaters.

There isn't much that could go in the Flex that would vastly increase FE. They'd need either a hybrid or a all diesel. Even an ecoboosted 4 pot is going to suffer like the RDX because of heafty weight.

The EPA #'s for the boosted Flex are not going to impress anyone here. The focus is not FE for Ford. The goal with the Flex is offer superior acceleration with fuel economy on par to rival 7-seaters.

There isn't much that could go in the Flex that would vastly increase FE. They'd need either a hybrid or a all diesel. Even an ecoboosted 4 pot is going to suffer like the RDX because of heafty weight.

Ford even said, the V-6 ecoboost isnt about fuel economy, its about power. And getting slightly better FE than a V-8 of similar size. Which it does. And the fact that they can manage 24 or 25mpg on the highway with a 4000+ pound box on wheels is crazy enough.

Anyways Ford is basically saying the turbocharged 4 banger is where the crazy good fuel economy is. They are shooting for 40mpg hwy minimum for the fiesta/focus with an ecoboosted 4 banger.

The same trick with the HAH didn't sell well, big engine with slightly better FE than a smaller engine but more power than a bigger big engine. Hopefully their marketing and pricing are better in line with the market.

Hi All:

___The new Taurus SHO with the twin-turbo’s and ECOboosted 3.5L allows 365 HP/350 Lb-Ft. with an 18/27 – 21 mpg combined rating. The conventional non-ECOboosted 3.5L Taurus outputs 263 HP/249 Lb-Ft. and an 18/28 – 22 mpg combined rating.

___Poor results for both compared to the Fusion Hybrid at 39 combined :rolleyes:

___Ford has not said it will place the ECOboosted 1.6L into the Fiesta yet but it has been reported as being the case. They had better as the Lincoln C with the ECOboosted 1.6L was touted at 41 mpg highway and oh how the conventionally powered Fiesta would kick @$$ if it were labeled with that high a highway number!

___Good Luck

___Wayne

Big aside here, but the newest Equinox-187" long and 3700 lb, 6 speed AT- 5 passengers -it is more or less a midsized crossover-gets 22/32 mpg with the 4 cylinder. It is roughly the size of the older generation Highlander which was old EPAed about 20/27 with the 4 cyl. I don't think Chevy will try to squeeze a 3 row in it, but who knows.

I don't know how GM managed such magic .Heck the earlier Aveos (155" 2500 lbs) with ATS didn't do much better than that! I'm pretty sure the Cobalt AT doesn't get much better than EPA 22 MPG city. It handily beats the Mazda 5 even with AT VS MT.

It must be pretty clean aero wise, and maybe there is some magic in that 4 cyl-though I haven't seen Chevy making any big claims for that motor.

This is the second "pretty good" Chevy vehicle.The Malibu is also nice with decent FE. The pickups are decent vehicles, but that market doesn't have growth potential and they killed the light duty Diesel that might have produced pretty good Hy FE.

Charlie

I see a couple of Hybrid Escape Atkinson Cycle engines for sale on Ebay. A 2008 2.3L and a 2009 2.5L

The 2.5 looks mint.. :)