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xcel
07-25-2009, 02:10 PM
http://www.cleanmpg.com/photos/data/2/AmericanFlag.jpg More Performance and Features but not a hint of improved FE :( (cleanmpg.com/forums/showthread.php?p=223855)

http://www.cleanmpg.com/photos/data/501/2009_Harley_Davidson_883L.jpgWayne Gerdes - CleanMPG (cleanmpg.com) - July 25, 2009

2010 XL883L – Harley Davidson’s most fuel efficient at just 45 mpgUS

Milwaukee, WI. -- Harley-Davidson intros it 2010 lineup with nine new motorcycle models, the most expansive new-product introduction in the history of the Motorcycle Company. Across six model platforms, Harley-Davidson offers more power, luxury, and style, and more value according to the companies most recent press release.

"This ambitious new motorcycle launch reaches to our riders with the incredible passion that Harley-Davidson has inspired for more than a century," said Bill Davidson, Harley-Davidson Vice President of Core Customer Marketing. "We are thrilled to offer our customers nine new models and a full selection of products for 2010 that lets their enthusiasm for enjoying great motorcycles continues at full throttle."

The 2010 Harley-Davidson line
The Electra Glide(R) Ultra Limited model delivers the performance upgrade of a Twin Cam 103(TM) engine, and features standard equipment items previously offered only as accessories on regular-production Harley-Davidson Touring models.


The new Road Glide Custom includes a slammed suspension, 18-inch front wheel and a new 2-into-1 exhaust system.


The Wide Glide returns as an all-new Dyna model with black laced wheels, a chopped rear fender, black "wire" sissy bar, 2-1-2 Tommy Gun exhaust and an optional flame paint scheme. Priced starting at $14,499, the Wide Glide is also a great new value.


The new Street Glide Trike brings stripped-down, hot-rod styling to the three-wheel category, and joins the Tri Glide Ultra Classic in an all new Trike family for 2010.


Dressed in satin chrome and denim black, the new Fat Boy Lo presents a darker and lower interpretation of the motorcycle.


The 2010 Street is updated with a larger front wheel, slimmed-down exhaust, and a new tail light assembly.
No motorcycle on the road today matches the modern street attitude of the three exciting models in the Harley-Davidson VRSC(TM) family: V-Rod(R), Night Rod(R) Special and V-Rod Muscle(R). The explosive performance of the liquid cooled Revolution(R) V-Twin engine keeps VRSC at the top of the power cruiser food chain in 2010.

The American motorcycle legend that is Harley-Davidson Sportster(R) features six models for 2010, including the $7,999 Iron 883(TM) introduced mid-year 2009 and four others priced less than $10,000.

Harley-Davidson Custom Vehicle Operations(TM) (CVO(TM)), masters of shimmering chrome and bold paint, offers four new limited-production models for 2010. The CVO Softail(R) Convertible is a versatile urban touring motorcycle, while the CVO Street Glide is a high-performance hot-rod bagger. The CVO Ultra Classic(R) Electra Glide(R) and CVO Fat Bob(R) models are refreshed for 2010 with new paint schemes and styling details. All CVO models are powered by a Twin Cam 110(TM) engine, the largest displacement V-Twin offered by Harley-Davidson.

For a company on the edge and sales down ~ 30% from a year ago, what seems to be missing is something really new :confused:

GardenWeasel
07-25-2009, 02:42 PM
Good article! But Harley's kinda make me laugh! :p

xcel
07-25-2009, 02:57 PM
Hi GW:

___I think near the end of the year I am going to see about taking out an 883L Sportster for a day or two. I will look way out of place with the HiViz Aerostich Darien gear and Arai XD-3 but what the heck, even a Harley has to do some damage to the EPA, right? The rest of the lineup’s FE is also ran but I wish the XR1200 Sportster had the smaller 54 cu. in. engine from the 883 as it is the only bike that looks like a bike and not some Hells Angels wannabe party crasher or all chromed out metal road hog.

___Good Luck

___Wayne

GardenWeasel
07-25-2009, 03:05 PM
Hi,
I'd love to rent one for a day or a month - but I wouldn't want my friends to see me riding it! Maybe the Harley persona could be changed...

GW

worthywads
07-25-2009, 04:51 PM
It has..... to the corporate VPs that trailer there bikes to Sturgis.

GardenWeasel
07-25-2009, 05:03 PM
It has..... to the corporate VPs that trailer there bikes to Sturgis.

LOL! I just had an image of my HCH with Harley in tow!

jcp123
07-25-2009, 05:39 PM
Only 45mpg on an 883? That's a lie. I got that on my 1200 while it was still breaking in without trying any fuel saving techniques, I get damn near 50mpg on my commute with it now.

xcel
07-25-2009, 05:47 PM
Hi JCP123:

___The way bikes are rated is sort of screwy as they use raw unadjusted FE numbers from the FTP75 (City Test) to come up with FE ratings. The 883 is rated (per HD) at 60 mpg highway (FHWTP) although nobody rates their bikes with the highway rating due to the EPA only requiring emissions tests from the FTP75.

___I figure the 883 is worth in the low 60's but unless someone has tested one while following the speed limits and DWL with FAS' at stops and such, we may never know?

___Good Luck

___Wayne

jcp123
07-25-2009, 07:08 PM
Hi JCP123:

___The way bikes are rated is sort of screwy as they use raw unadjusted FE numbers from the FTP75 (City Test) to come up with FE ratings. The 883 is rated (per HD) at 60 mpg highway (FHWTP) although nobody rates their bikes with the highway rating due to the EPA only requiring emissions tests from the FTP75.

___I figure the 883 is worth in the low 60's but unless someone has tested one while following the speed limits and DWL with FAS' at stops and such, we may never know?

___Good Luck

___Wayne

Yeah, I recall telling someone that the test regime for bikes was a bit screwy, I've heard the test scheme was pretty well different for the two. 45mpg is so far off base though that it's a little ridiculous, IMHO.

Earthling
07-25-2009, 10:04 PM
Only 45mpg on an 883? That's a lie. I got that on my 1200 while it was still breaking in without trying any fuel saving techniques, I get damn near 50mpg on my commute with it now.

Did you see an improvement with break-in?

I think most Harleys are good for close to 50 mpg if they aren't ridden too hard.

thanks,

Harry

lxmike
07-26-2009, 01:50 PM
My brother hs a 1200 sportster and says he is getting lil over 40 and that riding around town and he lets it sit and warm up before he rides off. I'd imaigine a 883 shuld be 50+ easily.

psyshack
07-26-2009, 07:39 PM
You don't buy a Harley for mpg or any real motorcycle for mpg.

I do like the new Wide Glide and the XR1200 Flat Track Repli-Racer. I would not be looking for mpg on either bike. :)

jcp123
07-27-2009, 10:52 PM
Did you see an improvement with break-in?

I think most Harleys are good for close to 50 mpg if they aren't ridden too hard.

thanks,

Harry


Part of it is break-in. When I bought it last summer, it woulnd't even break 50mpg no matter what, it stuck to 45mpg. This year, on the way to DC I averaged over 53mpg, with several tanks over 55 and one nearly 58, though it tanked to 47ish on the way home when I put my cousin's windshield on it.

Maxx
07-28-2009, 08:48 AM
The Iron 883 is a nice looking little bike...
I haven't calc'd my FE in a while, and now that the bike ('08 Dyna) is broken in with 6,000 miles, I should have a look at what a light weight bike with the 96ci motor can do. From the start it was good for 40 without trying. I'll bet it's about 46 now.

jcp123
07-28-2009, 12:27 PM
Yah, I love the Iron. Mad at it though because that's what I had hoped to buy when I got the Nightster so I could do a 1200 conversion down the road - I was disapointed to learn the Nightster was only a 1200cc. It took some cajoling to get a Nightster, and then a few months later they come out with the Iron!



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