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Chuck
05-31-2009, 03:30 PM
http://www.cleanmpg.com/photos/data/2/AmericanFlag.jpg The U.S. Energy Information Administration said on Wednesday that oil prices would likely rise to $110 a barrel by 2015 and $130 a barrel by 2030. (http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1901446,00.html)

http://www.cleanmpg.com/photos/data/501/oil_drilling_rig_sunset.jpgVivienne Walt - TIME (http://www.time.com) - May 29, 2009

I'm not relying on those price forecasts by the US Energy Information Administration --Ed.

Storage tankers across the globe may be brimming with oil that no one is buying because of the global economic downturn, but the traditional laws of supply and demand don't always apply to oil prices. Drivers have faced rising prices at the gas pump in recent months, as investors and oil-producing countries hoard supplies in anticipation of a global economic recovery later this year.

The 12 member countries of the OPEC cartel voted in Vienna on Thursday to maintain output at current levels rather than increase supplies in order to bring some relief to consumers, particularly in the gas-guzzling West. The OPEC oil ministers, whose countries account for about 40% of the world's entire crude-oil supply, also renewed their commitment to stick to their agreed quotas, rather than ship extra oil, as they began doing last April when several members ignored their agreed output limits. OPEC leaders, many of whose economies are heavily dependent on oil exports, have struggled to stabilize prices at a level that suits their own economic needs amid falling demand and rising supplies. Prices had rocketed to a record level of $147 a barrel last July before plummeting to $30 just five months later and beginning a new climb. (See pictures of South Africa's oil-from-coal refinery.) ... http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1901446,00.html

chilimac02
05-31-2009, 04:28 PM
It sounds like the futures contracts are what has jacked up the price as of late. The agency that made those estimates of 115 per barrel in 2015 must not be watching the futures charts. Check out http://futures.tradingcharts.com/marketquotes/index.php3?market=CL to see the current future market for oil.

The market is only forecasting a 15 dollar per barrel rise by 2015. That means that prices are pretty stable. Otherwise those contracts would be a lot hotter (and thus higher priced).

phoebeisis
05-31-2009, 04:30 PM
They are rising because we will pay it.
Markets are manipulated/they aren't free markets.
They-speculators- make money on rising prices, and the sellers obviously make money on rising prices-so do oil companies since most have leases etc.

We are in for another round of price rises.It will go up until maybe our government steps in and prevents it-perhaps by restricting demand, or by threatening the producers.Start a Manhattan project wind turbine program to get cars on domestic electricity-even if it has to be coal produced.
It wouldn't be impossible to drop our consumption to 10,000,000/d from the current 20,000,000/d-might take 15 years, but just the threat would drop fuel prices. Get the Chinese to throw in with us in getting off foreign energy.They can't afford expensive oil-not if it tanks our/and everyones elses-ability to buy their products.

It will tank any economic recovery.
On the bright side,I've noticed less interest(buys/prices) in large SUVs-Ebay. They were selling pretty well with $1.50 gas.

Charlie

Earthling
05-31-2009, 06:38 PM
High gasoline prices are the only thing that will make the typical American show any interest in fuel-efficient vehicles. That being the case, let the prices rise...

Harry

roadrunner
05-31-2009, 07:48 PM
I agree with what Harry said!

No one knows what the price of oil will be in the future! It is unknown!

If you think oil prices are going much higher, then purchase some oil stocks, for they will reward you for higher prices. Think about it....it makes sense.

Roadrunner

abcdpeterson
05-31-2009, 07:58 PM
I also agree. let the price rise.

Radio_tec
05-31-2009, 11:11 PM
High gasoline prices are the only thing that will make the typical American show any interest in fuel-efficient vehicles. That being the case, let the prices rise...

Harry

It seems that's the only venacular the public understands. Peak oil and global warming are for the weak.

Expect to hear Drill Here, Drill Now, Pay Less mantras.

WriConsult
06-01-2009, 12:19 AM
When the wind dropped out of the sails of the economy last year, demand plummeted and the price cratered. Now suppliers have adjusted, more "expensive" supplies have dropped from the market, and excess inventory has been sold. The price was temporarily way below the equilibrium level even for a weak economy and is now recovering. Even with the economy in shambles $30-40/bbl was unsustainable for more than a few months.

Given the strong signs of stabilization in the economic downturn (if not signs of recovery, quite yet) I'd expect the price to rise substantially from where it is today by the end of the year if things don't turn downward again.

Earthling
06-01-2009, 07:43 AM
If you think oil prices are going much higher, then purchase some oil stocks, for they will reward you for higher prices. Think about it....it makes sense.



I bought some XTO and ME, oil stocks, and both are doing nicely, thank you. I also bought some natural gas stock as a hedge against higher heating costs.

My stock in a Chinese coal company is also doing very well, too.

Harry



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