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xcel
03-16-2009, 03:31 PM
http://www.cleanmpg.com/photos/data/2/European_Union_Flag.jpg While buyers have a growing appetite for green cars, higher prices are still forcing us to buy less eco-efficient models. (guardian.co.uk/environment/ethicallivingblog/2009/mar/16/environment-green-car-prices-too-expensive)

http://www.cleanmpg.com/photos/data/501/2010_Honda_Insight-II2.jpgAdam Vaughan – Guardian (guardian.co.uk) – Mar. 16, 2009

2010 Honda Insight-II – Less than $20K to start and 41 mpgUS combined on the 08 EPA.

Green (the out of pocket variety) is maybe one reason the Insight-II will do better than some expect? -- Ed.

When it comes to changing our driving habits, money talks. Last year it took high oil prices to reduce the amount we drive, and now a survey today suggests we're buying greener cars because of the recession. Nearly half (42%) of drivers said their next car will have lower CO2 emissions than their current one, according to the poll by Auto Trader. Over half (51%) said they'd consider buying a greener car, 61% wanted higher taxes for gas-guzzlers and 40% of the 2,000 respondents are contemplating buying a hybrid.

The key "finding" for me, however, is that price is still the deciding factor when people research a new car: 85% cited it as the most important factor. That chimes with my own recent experience of buying a car.

I wanted the greenest I could afford, but that turned out to be a diesel Ford Focus that spits out 127g/CO2 every kilometer compared to the 104g/CO2 km the Prius emits. Although there's a healthy second-hand market for the Prius, to get one with a fairly low mileage - say, 20,000 miles from three years of driving - will cost you at least £7,500. And that's probably just a little too much for most people buying a family car.

Cheaper green cars are coming, such as the hybrid Honda Insight for £15,490, available from 1 April. But the lag for today's efficient models, such as VW's Bluemotion range and Ford's ECOnetic marque, means they won't be affordable on the used car market for several years… http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/ethicallivingblog/2009/mar/16/environment-green-car-prices-too-expensive

GardenWeasel
03-16-2009, 09:16 PM
I suppose I'm jumping the gun - but I cruised by the local Honda dealer yesterday just to see if any had arrived yet..

jhu
03-17-2009, 03:36 AM
The best way to go 'green' on a car purchase is to buy a used fuel-efficient vehicle. The next best way is to just buy a used vehicle. Buying a used vehicle (any vehicle, even a not-so-fuel-efficient one) alone puts one less vehicle on the road thereby negating the energy cost of producing that vehicle.

Kacey Green
03-19-2009, 01:30 PM
I suppose I'm jumping the gun - but I cruised by the local Honda dealer yesterday just to see if any had arrived yet..

You don't trust me to let you know when the arrive? ;)

GardenWeasel
03-19-2009, 05:48 PM
You don't trust me to let you know when the arrive? ;)

:woot: Are they here yet? :p

Kacey Green
03-19-2009, 08:38 PM
Ordering manager says they're still on the ocean

basjoos
03-19-2009, 10:16 PM
Green doesn't necessarily have to mean more expensive, although that is the way the car manufacturers have been portraying it. If a manufacturer wanted to make an inexpensive green car, they could just follow the path I've followed in improving mileage via aerodynamic drag reduction combined with the tall gearing to take advantage of it. No expensive hybridization is needed to get excellent highway mileage and decent mileage around town. It's almost like, having invested a lot of money in hybrid tech, the manufacturers don't want to admit the existence of or make available for sale an alternative, much less expensive, type of green vehicle that gets just as good highway mileage, but slightly worse city mileage than the hybrid basket they have put most of their green eggs into.



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