Archives




View Full Version : Prius Racing


johnf514
08-31-2006, 09:04 AM
http://priuschat.com/index.php?showtopic=16201

Why? :rolleyes:

Sledge
08-31-2006, 09:16 AM
I saw that thread from The Car Lounge. It's sad. Prius racing a Mustang or sportbike? Yeah right. Newsflash: your Prius will not keep up with a V8 pony car or crotch rocket IF THE DRIVER IS ACTUALLY RACING YOU.

Now a GS450h or LS600h is a whole different matter.

Chuck
08-31-2006, 09:24 AM
From 0 to 30mph, the electric motor might give the Prius a chance.

I'm concerned about these Prius drivers turned gearheads - they might put up a site called www.mypriussucks.com (http://www.mypriussucks.com) :p

Sledge
08-31-2006, 09:38 AM
Prius does 0-30 in 3.1s and a Mustang V8 does 0-30 in around 2.5s.

psyshack
08-31-2006, 10:52 AM
lolololololololol

xcel
08-31-2006, 11:16 AM
Hi All:

___I sure hope this does not become a trend :( Not only are the HEV’s just acceptable even with a full pack, drop there packs to ½ and they get darn slow compared to everything real fast …

Car and Driver - Prius II: 0 - 30: 3.4 seconds and 0 - 60: 11.3 seconds

___I remember seeing acceleration numbers at ½ SoC of 14 seconds for the Prius II somewhere as well? They are extremely high FE automobiles but race cars they are not … Unless setup for that and then they aren’t really high FE cars, are they?

http://www.cleanmpg.com/photos/data/2/Prius_II_Speed_Machine.gif
Aero and safety modded Prius II w/ the governors removed - 130.79 mph

___Good Luck

___Wayne

tbaleno
08-31-2006, 11:26 AM
One of the reasons I liked the accord hybrid is that it got close to double the FE of a v8 mustang, and had a decent chance of beating it in a race head to head.

Sure, it isn't a FE monster, but people will always want sports cars. And there has probably been a racing bug since the first car was built. So there needs to be hybrids in that segment of the market to at least try to slow the hemoraging of fuel.

I can see race cars going from mostly fuel to mostly electric because of the elimination of a torque curve. More performance for the money I think.

RH77
08-31-2006, 12:55 PM
I am a rehabilitated lead-footer gone efficiency-minded, and IMHO, the last thing we need is to unfairly mix the two concepts. The fact that the Accord Hybrid is actually the fastest in the lineup is rediculous. It screams, "If we made it with a little less horsepower than the standard 4-cyl, this could really make some decent FE" -- but no, they went for performance over FE. The idea is good for the future, but we're not ready yet to get both the performance numbers and FE numbers where we want them (that is not on a mass-market scale).

Imagine how much fun a Lotus Elise Hybrid would be (and how efficient). It is possible, but there needs to be a paradigm shift to conservation first.

RH77

xcel
08-31-2006, 01:24 PM
Hi RH77:

___Good point … Another item to consider about the AH.

AH w/ NAVI – $28,200 + TTL AT INVOICE after cash to dealer and the $1,350 Tax credit. Max distance and FE in an AH? Maybe a touch over 1,050 miles at a max of maybe 55 mpg.

PZEV based I4 EX-L w/ NAVI – $23,200 + TTL.
Max distance and FE in the PZEV I4? > 1,100 miles and > 58 mpg. (so far ;)).

___For getting from stop light to stop light with a pony car, it does well but its FE basically dumps back down into the low to mid teens when pulling those kinds of stunts. For FE and range, it isn’t close in terms of price to its just as feature rich, more FE capable but less powerful I4 based sibling …

___What is the point of the tax credit to those purchasing an AH? Fortunately or not, the American consumer has shunned the AH like the plague as well they should knowing what we know. Just 3,749 of them were sold from January 2006 thorough July 2006 which is down 59.5% from the 05 MY (initial release year). Total failure imho.

___Good Luck

___Wayne



Copyright 2006 Clean MPG, LLC. All Rights Reserved.