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xcel
01-25-2009, 01:31 PM
Merrill Lynch’s Thain fall from grace shows that Wall Street's excessive habits even after Bailout funding is imminent is taking time to shake. (http://abcnews.go.com/Business/WireStory?id=6719143&page=1)

http://www.cleanmpg.com/photos/data/501/Merrill_s_John_Thain.jpgMadlen Read - AP – Jan. 23, 2009

The companies going under so here is a few $Billion in Bonus’ before it does :mad: -- Ed.

John Thain should have known the rules.

After all, when he became CEO of the New York Stock Exchange in 2004, he replaced Richard Grasso — a man who embodied the excesses of the times and was forced out for taking a massive annual pay package of $187.5 million. Thain at the time accepted a much smaller $4 million.

But now, the Wall Street wunderkind is gaining similar notoriety. As head of Merrill Lynch, he sped up bonuses to several executives before Bank of America Corp. bought the investment bank on Jan 1. He also spent $1.2 million decorating his Manhattan office, according to media reports, as Merrill hemorrhaged money — a decision that's invoking particular rage among Americans, including President Barack Obama. Thain left his post at Bank of America on Thursday after unexpectedly big losses at Merrill Lynch; the bonuses were a likely contributing factor in his departure…

Many bank CEOs and other executives gave up their bonuses late last year as the government started limiting compensation as part of its Troubled Assets Relief Program. Thain was among them, as were four other Merrill executives — but only after Thain initially sought out a $10 million bonus, The Wall Street Journal reported.

Merrill Lynch paid Thain more than $83 million in 2007 — making him the highest paid CEO on Wall Street that year. The firm then lost more than $37 billion over the course of 15 months, and was saved from collapse in a government-brokered buyout by Charlotte, N.C.-based Bank of America Corp... http://abcnews.go.com/Business/WireStory?id=6719143&page=1

laurieaw
01-25-2009, 02:32 PM
i can think of so many places where that kind of money could be put to a GOOD use......think unemployed people.......

fuzzy
01-25-2009, 11:38 PM
... As head of Merrill Lynch, he sped up bonuses to several executives before Bank of America Corp. bought the investment bank on Jan 1. He also spent $1.2 million decorating his Manhattan office, according to media reports, as Merrill hemorrhaged money — a decision that's invoking particular rage among Americans, including President Barack Obama. Thain left his post at Bank of America on Thursday after unexpectedly big losses at Merrill Lynch; the bonuses were a likely contributing factor in his departure…

My impression from other reports is that his new boss, the CEO of BoA, flew to NYC to have a talk about these bonuses, totaling somewhere around $3-4 Billion. Less than 15 minutes later, Thain was one of those unemployed people.

xcel
01-26-2009, 01:07 AM
Hi Dean:

___And not a single $ of ours was stopped :(

___Good Luck

___Wayne

mparrish
01-26-2009, 10:59 AM
It's important to remember that mega-rich Wall Street titans do not pay their fair share of taxes like you & me.

While we slave away earning salaries and paying our FICA & Income taxes, their annual earnings are subject to small or eliminated dividend & cap gains taxes................which the previous administration worked hard to minimize or end.

As a result, the top 0.01% pay barely anything in federal taxes as a percentage of income. The top 0.1% pay slightly more, but not nearly as much as the top 1% overall. Simply taxing wealth as income would end this free ride.

fuzzy
01-27-2009, 12:07 AM
... ___And not a single $ of ours was stopped :(

I don't think BoA has any power to revoke the bonuses. Can Congress reverse the aid package for this piece, possibly letting BoA throw back ML for fraud or misrepresentation (both for bonuses and for understating the size of ML's loss just before for merger)?

At this point, how many economists and taxpayers believe ML was worth saving?

I also don't see the point of "retention bonuses" when the market has an oversupply of similar talent. Of course, the term is really a euphemism.

jimepting
01-27-2009, 03:14 AM
It doesn't stop at Wall St. Michele Obama hired the same interrior decorator that Thain hired. What was wrong with the old Bush furniture? Broken chair legs, collapsed cushions, stained upholstery? I haven't heard the specifics.

Lawyers are exhibiting much the same behavior by creating an entire liability industry.

Doctors seem to demand compensation which allows them to support multi-million dollar homes, and twin Mercedes in the drive way.

Small business owners are ripping off the tax system big time through "business" allowances.

Greed and gaming the system have become a national preoccupation. Why stop at Wall Street.

In the meantime, those who acted responsibily are being financially slaughtered.

BlackUp
01-27-2009, 10:42 AM
It's important to remember that mega-rich Wall Street titans do not pay their fair share of taxes like you & me.

While we slave away earning salaries and paying our FICA & Income taxes, their annual earnings are subject to small or eliminated dividend & cap gains taxes................which the previous administration worked hard to minimize or end.

As a result, the top 0.01% pay barely anything in federal taxes as a percentage of income. The top 0.1% pay slightly more, but not nearly as much as the top 1% overall. Simply taxing wealth as income would end this free ride.

Can you provide any references for this? I have had the feeling that this was the case, but have never had any solid sources.
Thanks.

GreenVTEC
01-27-2009, 11:30 AM
These people are some pretty smart cookies.

They know no matter how much money they splurge we'll forget about it in a week. It's not like most of us can live without banks.



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