abcdpeterson
01-22-2009, 03:06 PM
Can this be true?
Shelby SuperCars (SSC) released the details today (http://www.autoblog.com/2009/01/22/shelby-supercars-reveals-new-plans-for-ultimate-aero-ev-that-inc/)
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2009/01/ultimage_aero_580.jpg
PRESS RELEASE:
SSC Announces Green Technologies Revealing Revolutionary Battery and Electric Powertrain Technology
West Richland, WA January 21, 2009: Shelby SuperCars (SSC) released the details today of the revolutionary electric vehicle technology to be unveiled in the second quarter of this year. SSC will reveal its innovative all-electric powertrain in the current Ultimate Aero, the Guinness Certified "Fastest Production Car in the World," to create the Ultimate Aero EV and will reinforce the company as a benchmark in the auto industry. But unlike other auto manufacturers, SSC's new technology will set a new standard in the electric car industry - one of 10 minute recharges, super horsepower and ranges of up to 200 miles per charge.
looking on Google I found a number of links to the same info.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=SSC%27s+Nanotechnology+Rechargeable+Lithium+Battery&aq=f&oq=
I just can't see pushing that much power out a 110V outlet that fast.
Taliesin
01-22-2009, 03:13 PM
I just can't see pushing that much power out a 110V outlet that fast.
Looks like some other people did the math and couldn't see that happening either.
JusBringIt
01-22-2009, 09:54 PM
The voltage does not determine the charging rate. 110 v can provide a lot of amperes, however, the outlets may need to be specialized. It is possible to handle the amp draw/load.
drimportracing
01-31-2009, 03:04 AM
SSC's Nanotechnology Rechargeable Lithium Battery pack is rechargeable in only 10 minutes on a standard 110 outlet and has a 150-200 mile range on a single charge.
It does say standard 110 outlet. Woo Hoo! I've got one of those! All I need is the car. ;)
Hi Allen:
___Now that is a SuperCar I can support :D
___Good Luck
___Wayne
donee
01-31-2009, 07:48 AM
Hi All,
To recharge that fast takes allot of power. Houshold power does not have that power capacity. But its common at industrial buildings ( at least that is what an ex Comonwealth Edison manager told me when I asked him about this a year ago). There is nothing preventing the installation of industrial sized transformers at re-energizing stations that could provide quick recharge. A few of the battery companies have been claiming quick recharge for a while now.
flatty
01-31-2009, 08:30 AM
...it's just very expensive to do...
WriConsult
01-31-2009, 09:45 PM
A "standard" 110V outlet (I'm being generous and assuming 20A) can only deliver about 0.4 kWh in 10 minutes. That's a fraction of even what the little standard Prius pack can hold. Even a little NEV golf cart will only make it a couple miles on 0.4kWh. To charge a "real" EV (especially a high performance one) sufficiently to provide a 200 mile range in 10 minutes would almost require plugging it into a substation. Even the 200A/240V service entrance to my house would probably require most of an hour to do the job.
This is barely even physics. It's just simple arithmetic. The numbers don't add up.
As with a lot of EV companies in the past and all the perpetual motion and energy from water schemes, this just seems like another attempt by a poseur company to extract money from investors who don't grasp basic scientific concepts. Nothing new to see here folks.
Shiba3420
02-01-2009, 10:00 AM
Well, most homes have about 10/30 circuits. Run 10/30 extention cables to each circuit and you might be able to do it, but think of the tripping hazzard ;)
I'd say a home power system is capable of doing this, but you litterally need a single circuit that has nearly the full capacity of the house, and that's no standard 110v outlet. One estimate said about 15 minutes run time with 10 minute charge off of 20amp 110v. At 60mph, that gets you 15 miles. Lets call it 1 mile per minute of charge at 20amp 110v. So you need 200 minutes. At 220v 20amp, you need 100 minutes, you need 10 times that...220v at 200amp. Yep, that sounds reasonable within a house although nothing standard. That virtually means you would need to run that massive cable that goes into your circuit box directly to the car. I suspect most people would get a seperate service box just for the car. For a smart grid, that would be a good thing. Easier to control that charge. Hopefully there would also be a way to tell the car when you would be leaving again so it could charge at an appropriate rate and time.
I suspect this is another case of people misreading something early on. There was something probably about charnging the car in 10 minutes and something about being able to charge using standard 110v outlet. Someone combined the two ideas and, poof, instantly stupid comment that does more to hurt public opinion about the concept than just about anything else could. Frankly I think being able to go a mile for evey minute I'm plugged in would be very adaquate. For local stuff, I'd never need to charge more than 30 minutes. For the office commute, 60/90 minutes. However, for a cross country run, 200 miles is a pretty short range. Having to stop every 3 hours or less would be annoying, but then again I do like to preach personal responsibility, so if thats what it takes to go green, then I'll have to strongly consider it...on the other hand a sports car isn't really a good cross country vehicle for this family.
JusBringIt
02-01-2009, 03:48 PM
The car is able to go up to HALF charge in 10 minutes is what the actual advertising reads. Not full charge.