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Chuck
01-15-2009, 08:12 PM
Too early to confirm, but a bird strike is suspected in the NYC crash of US Airways Flight 1549 today. (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28679145/)

http://www.cleanmpg.com/photos/data/501/090115-hudson-rescue-hmed-4p_hmedium.jpgBill Dedman - MSNBC - Jan 15, 2009

Bell the Jetliners? -- Ed.

Talk about unintended consequences. “Bird strikes” — or collisions between birds and aircraft — are increasing for two reasons, according to the federal government’s leading expert on the phenomenon: The environment is cleaner and airplanes are quieter.

While federal authorities have not confirmed initial reports that the US Airways jet that crashed Thursday in New York’s Hudson River hit a flock of birds shortly after taking off from LaGuardia airport, Dr. Richard A. Dolbeer told msnbc.com that such bird-aircraft collisions are on the rise.

"The key thing is that we’ve seen a remarkable increase in populations of many or most large birds — birds such as great blue heron, osprey, bald eagle, snow goose, Canada goose,” said Dolbeer, a retired ornithologist with the Department of Agriculture at the Wildlife Services in Sandusky, Ohio. “These populations are increasing because we’ve done a really good job of wildlife conservation in North America for many species, because we’ve cleaned up the environment, gotten rid of DDT, enacted the the Clean Water Act. All good things, but because of these, we’ve had incredible surges of many species that are hazardous to aviation.... http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28679145/

Earthling
01-15-2009, 09:00 PM
We've got a bald eagle that lives a mile from my house. Western NY is a flyway for geese and you can sometimes hear them honking overhead even after dark.

It's amazing no one died in that airplane ditching today. It could have turned out much, more worse. There aren't too many flat areas to set an airliner down in NYC. That pilot did a nice job.

Harry

SentraSE-R
01-15-2009, 09:13 PM
I stayed at a kibbutz in Israel that also hosted an international gathering of birdwatchers from different European governments. They were cooperating to study stork and hawk behavior, so their air forces would know the safest times to fly.

Chuck
01-16-2009, 07:04 AM
The most celebrated FAS in NYC

Shiba3420
01-16-2009, 07:29 AM
That was so good, you would think this guy crash landed planes all the time. I wonder if he put any Phantoms in the drink before...

I love the way they say everyone survived....everyone but the bird(s).

jsmithy
01-16-2009, 07:59 AM
This guy has to be the best pilot in the world. From what I have seen, studied safety procedures before every flight...the way it should be done.

Chuck
01-16-2009, 08:00 AM
This guy has to be the best pilot in the world. From what I have seen, studied safety procedures on every flight. The way it should be done.US Airways (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/US_Airways) Flight 1549 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/US_Airways_Flight_1549),

Earthling
01-16-2009, 08:52 AM
That was so good, you would think this guy crash landed planes all the time. I wonder if he put any Phantoms in the drink before...



They said he was a glider pilot, and a glider instructor pilot. That didn't hurt. A glider pilot realizes he has only one chance to get it right. The guy decided a deadstick landing at Teterboro was just too chancy and picked the Hudson River, instead.

Harry

Chuck
01-16-2009, 02:22 PM
Engines were designed to withstand songbirds but not Canadian geese

Time story (http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1872175,00.html?xid=rss-topstories-cnnpartner)

vtec-e
01-16-2009, 02:24 PM
They said he was a glider pilot, and a glider instructor pilot. That didn't hurt. A glider pilot realizes he has only one chance to get it right. The guy decided a deadstick landing at Teterboro was just too chancy and picked the Hudson River, instead.

Harry
Agreed 100%. The plane was fully (for that flight anyway) loaded with fuel so a water landing would be much preferred. He must have put it down perfectly level because all i could see missing from the plane was a slat on the left wing. The guy is a legend! I'm sure the passengers are loving life right now.

ollie

Xringer
01-16-2009, 02:47 PM
Next time I fly, I want Capitan Sully on the stick.. :)

Or any ex-military pilot that's also a skilled glider pilot.. ;)

Chuck
01-16-2009, 02:52 PM
Next time I fly, I want Capitan Sully on the stick.. :)

Or any ex-military pilot that's also a skilled glider pilot.. ;)

No, No, No!!!!!

He does a FAS and never comes to a complete stop on his flights!

He's dangerous!



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