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tarabell
08-16-2006, 12:38 PM
Tax breaks and fresh ads bring jump in sales. (http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2006/08/13/MTGMQKH2PC1.DTL)

Jerry Garrett - San Francisco Chronicle - August 13, 2006

http://www.cleanmpg.com/photos/data/501/FEH_Incentives.jpg

Arguably, one of the best things the Ford Escape Hybrid has going for it is the name recognition that comes from belonging to the popular Escape gang.

That may also be its big drawback.

Since the car-based utility wagon made its debut as a 2001 model, it has been one of Ford's few recent success stories. But as the design has aged, demand has softened. The hybrid arrived as a 2005 model in a dated body.

Further, while gasoline-powered Escapes start below $20,000, the all-wheel-drive hybrid version is some 40 percent more expensive -- $27,820 and up.

But here's the kicker: The less expensive conventional Escape gets mileage comparable to the hybrid's. With a manual transmission, a four-cylinder front-drive gasoline Escape is rated 29 mpg on the highway, equal to the all-wheel drive hybrid. (The front-drive hybrid is rated 31 mpg.)

Ford had incorrectly predicted that its first hybrid would sell as easily as Toyota's wildly popular Prius, and largely without advertising. By last winter, some dealers reported that Escape Hybrids sat on their lots so long that the batteries died.

In February, Ford changed its hands-off marketing approach and gave the hybrid a full-blown ad campaign, including coveted Super Bowl spots and a green spokesman, Kermit the Frog. Buyer incentives of $1,000 were offered on 2006 models. (For 2007, the incentives were dropped, but the base price was lowered by $1,000.)

In addition, Ford has sought to educate its dealers about tax breaks available for hybrid buyers. The Escape Hybrid qualifies for either a $1,950 (all-wheel drive) or $2,600 (front drive) federal tax credit and some state and local incentives as well.

The result, said Jim Cain, a Ford spokesman, was "a doubling of sales in some markets." The backlog of unsold models has disappeared and "we are now selling as many as we make," he said.

I tested a 2006 model, and to be honest, I wasn't expecting much. In previous testing, I'd found the Toyota Highlander Hybrid and Lexus RX400h disappointing, since my observed mileage proved to be much lower than the advertised claims. I expected little better from the Ford.

Nor was the Escape immediately endearing; even before I turned the key, odd noises emerged here and there as motors and circuits engaged and disengaged. Once I started driving, though, it began to impress.

The 133-horsepower gasoline engine combines with an electric motor that generates the equivalent of 93 horsepower; the resulting output is not quite as powerful as the conventional Escape's optional 200-horse V-6, but it feels as though it is. From a stop, the hybrid can reach 60 mph in 9.6 seconds, compared with 8.9 seconds for the V-6.

The most pleasant and unexpected surprise was my mileage. I didn't baby the Escape or try to coax high mileage from it, yet I had no trouble achieving -- even exceeding -- the EPA estimates.

Another advantage is this: While premium fuel is recommended for the Toyota and Lexus, the Escape Hybrid does fine on regular unleaded. Ford says this is the first hybrid with alternative-fuel capability, having been approved to run on E85 ethanol.

Later this year, the 2008 Escape will make its debut on the auto show circuit with updated styling. Hybrid versions will also receive a welcome upgrade with second-generation motors and battery packs. These improvements should help the Escape Hybrid accelerate its transition from forgotten to famous.

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2006 Ford
Escape Hybrid

Type: Compact sport utility wagon with a hybrid gas-electric power train.

Cost: Base price $26,215. As tested, $32,120 with $1,605 all-wheel drive, $1,995 navigation and upgraded sound system, $180 AC power outlet, $585 power sunroof, $695 appearance package, $595 safety package, $595 leather group.

Engine: A 2.3-liter four-cylinder gasoline engine plus a 70-kilowatt electric motor; continuously variable transmission.

Mileage: Rated 36 mpg in town, 31 on the highway (33/29 with all-wheel drive).

TonyPSchaefer
08-16-2006, 01:04 PM
I'm still not convinced. I enjoy snippits like "sales have doubled in some markets." Like when Ford added the Mercury Mariner hybrid and "doubled" their hybrid lines. Woo Hoo!

xcel
08-16-2006, 03:08 PM
Hi Tony:

___I have to say it is not just Ford that had initial problems with hybrid sales … The RXh and HiHy’s are not jumping off the lots as expected either.

___It was not two or three weeks ago and Toyota again mentioned a shortage of hybrid components yet the Prius II sales were down 5.9% YTD vs. 05. What we need to see is a nominal 20 - 40 day supply on the lots like the non-hybrid Camry, Corolla, and Civic. The Corolla’s supply is real tight right now so maybe I should not have included that one … From what I saw last month, it appears there is a $1,000 internal manufacture to dealer incentive for the Prius II’s and an $800 (maybe it was an $850) incentive for the HCH-II but with 0 on the lots, you pay MSRP and MSRP + for them even still. It is not so much the hybrid premium because the tax credit for those that can use it knock that back somewhat but it is the $’s above invoice for the non-hybrids that takes the cake. Take a look at Dennis’ $18,155 brand new 06 Prius II he picked up two weeks ago. When you can pick up a brand new 07 Camry LE or 06 Honda Accord LX for < $18K yet cannot find a Prius II, TCH, or HCH-II on the lots, there is something amiss here.

___I do not know where this is all headed but I have to believe Toyota and Honda are making more $’s from the sale of a non-hybrid Camry/Corolla/Civic’s then the hybrids or you would not see this extremely tight supply being maintained for the 7th year in a row. Ford’s FWD FEH (36/31) is in trouble having to compete with the ~ $1,500 less expensive Saturn VUE Greenline (27/32), far less expensive - non-hybrid Vue w/ a stick (23/29), Escape w/ a stick (24/29), RAV4 w/ Auto (24/30) or extremely powerful RAV V6 at (22/29). The FWD FEH’s $2,600 tax credit does fix the problem given today’s comparable competition :(

___I am not saying the Ford FEH is not far superior for any number of reasons to all of the above including the HiHy and RXh (no one will ever see south of 70 mpg sustained in anything but the FWD FEH) but when it comes to the out the door pricing, the FWD FEH $26,000 (tax credit to come later) w/ just the side and side curtains compared to any of the others can be a very tough hurdle to overcome while the sales paperwork is being prepped …

___Good Luck

___Wayne

Pravus Prime
08-16-2006, 04:18 PM
Another advantage is this: While premium fuel is recommended for the Toyota and Lexus, the Escape Hybrid does fine on regular unleaded. Ford says this is the first hybrid with alternative-fuel capability, having been approved to run on E85 ethanol.




There it is again. Is it in the Press Packet and everyone is misreading it, or do they know something we don't?

xcel
08-16-2006, 05:52 PM
Hi Rich:

___We know, we know ... A Look at an Overlooked Hybrid. (http://www.cleanmpg.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1599) :(

___Good Luck

___Wayne

Pravus Prime
08-16-2006, 06:27 PM
Oops, I didn't realize it was the same guy; I thought it was someone new.

philmcneal
08-16-2006, 10:56 PM
Oops, I didn't realize it was the same guy; I thought it was someone new.


add me to that list, its amazing what one picture can do to the entire article.

Tim K
08-17-2006, 08:16 AM
Ford’s FWD FEH (36/31) is in trouble having to compete with the ~ $1,500 less expensive Saturn VUE Greenline (27/32).....


___Good Luck

___Wayne


Wayne, if Ford is having trouble competing with a non-existing vehicle (anyone actually SEEN one of these Vue Hybrids yet?) then there are some SERIOUS problems.

xcel
08-17-2006, 08:38 AM
Hi Tim K.:

___You have to be concerned with all vehicles both on the ground and those that will be on the ground in < a month or less … The VUE Greenline was launched but I have no idea if it’s at my local Saturn dealer or not yet? Ford’s marketing and Hybrid division people know more about the VUE Greenline as well as all the 29 and 30 mpg highway rated competitors then we may ever because it is their business to know. You do not sit on a 6 year old platform with a 3 year old hybrid drivetrain and not worry about your competitors as it is the fastest way for the company not to exist anymore … Ford will have to step up very soon because their past business practices of letting a nameplate go well beyond its useful life while the competition continues to improve/change/redesign is not working anymore. That is unless the fire sales arrive again (my 2003 Ford Ranger XLT I4 w/ a stick - $9,695 brand new off the lot as an example) and I do not think Ford could afford that kind of hit on a brand new FEH at lets say $17K w/ the side and side curtain options … They would sell hundreds of thousands to keep the lines rolling but they probably would be losing at least $5K per copy and they just cannot do that anymore …

___Good Luck

___Wayne

Pravus Prime
08-17-2006, 03:38 PM
Hi Tim K.:

Ford’s marketing and Hybrid division people know more about the VUE Greenline as well as all the 29 and 30 mpg highway rated competitors then we may ever because it is their business to know. You do not sit on a 6 year old platform with a 3 year old hybrid drivetrain and not worry about your competitors as it is the fastest way for the company not to exist anymore

___Good Luck

___Wayne


Unfortuately, they do have to worry, since most people are morons.

The VUE is just as old as the Escape frame, and the hybrid technology is far more dated, and less beneficial. I have no doubt that there will be nearly zero VUE hypermilers, while it's easy for most FEH owners to get more than 5 MPGs more than the EPA proclaims. The lack of decent technology on the VUE is amazing, but that lower price tag is all most people will see. Then they'll look at the EPA and decide close enough.

xcel
08-17-2006, 04:44 PM
Hi Rich:

___The VUE Greenline is even older imho. Look at the VUE’s 4-speed auto as another example of saving pennies to throw away $’s … (Ford’s 4-speed auto’s are just as dumb :() GM is way to tight with the amenities and propulsion HW but that stronger ICE did bring them the 32 mpg highway rating they needed to knock the FEH’s full hybrid drivetrain back a notch or two. Why GM did not install that 2.4 into the regular Vue Redline is another politically dumb move but so are many of the domestic’s decisions over the past 20 years?

___Believe me, I feel for Ford in very bad way. If they would not have purchased/used that low quality Visteon NAVI head unit (that is who made it for them, right?) and instead would have spent the $’s for the Alpine unit as Honda does, I think it would have attracted that many more upscale purchasers for maybe $100 more OEM cost. The head wind they will be fighting from here on out are those 29/30 mpg highway ads even though you and I both know, < 2% of the consumers purchasing the VUE Green or Redline, non-Hybrid Escape, and/or RAV4 I4 will ever touch 30 let alone maintain it. The FEH has too much going for it in the real world FE department but those 29 and 30 numbers going up against the FWD FEH’s 31 are going to be tough to overcome from a marketing standpoint no matter what Ford does from here on out.

___Ford’s saving grace? The PHEV’s they are working on with just about everybody. Hopefully the competition breathing down there neck will force them to actually make a real world PHEV 20/30 that can run at 55 + mph in EV. The patents are there and ready to be installed. If the price is right, it will make the PHEV-FEH the most fuel efficient automobile for an average commute distance in terms of fuel costs (electricity and gasoline) on the planet overnight. How does traveling 30 miles from work and back for < $0.75 sound? Even an Insight driven to its limits can barely touch those numbers and you aren’t going to have to drive the FEH - PHEV anywhere near as gently/forcibly as you would an Insight to do the same … Plus hold 5 and a load full of gear for the < 30 mile - shorter commutes.

___This is the break through Ford needs along with the much needed and upgraded NAVI/LCD head unit to bring in the $29,000 - $33,000 purchasers back to the showrooms again. If they wait until the Prius and HiHy go PHEV, they will be sitting in the same sinking ship they are today to the detriment of us all :(

___Good Luck

___Wayne



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