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Right Lane Cruiser
11-18-2008, 12:33 PM
The well-to-wheel efficiency of the Tesla electric is 3.56-times better than a Honda CNG running directly on compressed natural gas. (http://www.renewableenergyworld.com/rea/news/reinsider/story?id=54046)

http://www.cleanmpg.com/photos/data/506/GM_EV1_on_the_road.jpgThomas Blakeslee - Renewable Energy World (http://www.renewableenergyworld.com/rea/home) - November 17, 2008

More EVs, please! -- Ed.

Internal combustion engines are inherently inefficient due to friction and pumping losses. After a century of evolution gasoline engines in cars are still typically only 21% efficient! Electric motors have no such limitations and are actually capable of 98% efficiency including electronic control losses! Why do we keep wasting our precious fuel on such an inefficient system? The answer is energy storage.

Gasoline, diesel and ethanol fuels are all amazingly compact ways deliver and store energy. Fuel has dominated our transportation sector because batteries are large, heavy and expensive compared to a simple gas tank. Classic lead-acid batteries, for example, need about 388 times as much volume to store energy as gasoline. Electric cars only need to carry about ¼ as much energy because of this efficiency advantage but that still means a lead-acid battery must be 388/4= 97 times larger than a gas tank. It's no wonder gasoline has dominated for a century. Gas tanks are cheap and gas used to be cheap, so why bother?

Lithium batteries have now evolved to a point where they are safe, quickly rechargeable and capable of outlasting a car. They still take up about ten times as much space as a gas tank, but the big remaining problem is... http://www.renewableenergyworld.com/rea/news/reinsider/story?id=54046

mparrish
11-18-2008, 01:23 PM
Nice article.

Historians will probably view the electrified personal transportation revolution from ~2000 to ~2015 (?) as a quick, dramatic shift in our national mobility.

From my perspective though, it is taking forever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Kacey Green
11-18-2008, 05:06 PM
eventually...

Indigo
11-18-2008, 06:18 PM
The battery capacity problem has GOT to get solved somehow. It's just not good enough that one has to spend $100k to get an EV capable of going 150 miles per charge. I hope the day will come soon that it's possible to get a $25k car that goes 180 miles per charge. Of course, Big Oil won't like that one bit!

lawnguybri
11-18-2008, 09:01 PM
F*** Big Oil

KrazyDawg
11-18-2008, 09:32 PM
The battery capacity problem has GOT to get solved somehow. It's just not good enough that one has to spend $100k to get an EV capable of going 150 miles per charge. I hope the day will come soon that it's possible to get a $25k car that goes 180 miles per charge. Of course, Big Oil won't like that one bit!

It was possible. Look up the Toyota RAV4 EV.

Right Lane Cruiser
11-18-2008, 11:17 PM
You've hit on exactly the point that bothers such a large percentage of the membership here. We could have been driving the solution for a solid decade by now. :(



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