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Chuck
08-11-2008, 08:23 AM
"On Your Routine Segments, Does it Seem Some Parts Improve at the Expense of Others?"

For instance, the first part might be really good, but the rest of the commute just does not measure up.

rdprice64
08-11-2008, 08:49 AM
I voted "No" because I believe its just that I haven't figure out the best technique for that segment of my commute yet.

For example, the first part of my commute is pretty well figured out and I usually leave that segment and 60+ mpg, occasionally 70. But on the second half, I drop back down into 50+. So I'm looking at alternate routes or better timing to get that segment up.

So maybe I just talked myself into voting "yes' instead of "no" :confused:

BTW Chuck, congrats on cresting over 10k posts! :)

Chuck
08-11-2008, 08:55 AM
This could be partially a hybrid/battery management thing.

I P&G the first two miles to work. If careless, I deplete my small battery pack and have to spend at least the next five miles to recoup.

rdprice64
08-11-2008, 09:38 AM
Maybe it's just a "tech" difference, but I start out with a depleted battery and after my first 2 miles my SoC is at the maximum and ready to go to work. Then I'm using EV P&G the rest of the way. If I could get more Glide with less Pulse by finding a different 2nd half, than maybe I could get my numbers up on that segment.

JusBringIt
08-11-2008, 10:15 AM
Actually no...i don't seem to benefit in one area and lose in the next. If I benefit...then I beenefit..I guess I should change my vote???

PaleMelanesian
08-11-2008, 10:22 AM
Possibly if I extend a glide too far and then have to work to get back to speed. I can see how a hybrid system might bite you later on if you draw the pack down. But generally for me, an improvement is an improvement.

Chuck
08-11-2008, 10:51 AM
I do P&G heavily the first two miles to work and it can deplete the battery pack quite a bit if not careful. Rule of thumb is for each second of Assist it take two second to replace that charge, but it seems like more than two seconds. Hard to say, because I try to trickle charge to avoid an FE penality to build the battery pack back up.

I don't have CalPod, but in a crude way using MIMA to minimize Assists on moderate hills and it's tricky.

lamebums
08-11-2008, 12:29 PM
Yes. Usually I'll try to get greedy and glide longer than normal through a section, and then I take it up the butt when I have to accelerate from a near-stop again. Usually an improvement though is just that--a better drive that day. Or I'm not distracted (I admit to hypermiling a 5 speed while on the phone :o)

Shiba3420
08-11-2008, 12:33 PM
Absoluletly. I have a few areas where a combination of speed & slope usually make the ICE run. If I hit several of those well, I may not use enough ICE and end up running out of charge on the flats...the areas where I can take the best advantage of battery power. I have to watch & sometimes force ICE to come on so I don't run out of power during best areas. Sure if feels good to go up the hill with electric power only, but ultimatly it can hurt my economy.

lnmcmahan
08-12-2008, 01:08 PM
I voted no, but...

That said, I do find that I will improve one particular part of my segment and not others, than some time later on I will improve somewhere else. Improvement is not even or constant, but depends on the terrain and the techniques I need to use, but once I have mastered a particular area, I usually don't regress at that spot.

Larry



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