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Chuck
07-14-2008, 12:22 PM
CleanMPG responds to recent negative articles and press releases (http://www.sunherald.com/prnewswire/story/682428.html)

http://www.cleanmpg.com/photos/data/501/CMPG.gifCleanMPG - July 14, 2008

Chicago - Anticipating the present fuel crisis and troubled by the political and environmental consequences of the US' huge consumption of oil, a group formed three years ago to find ways to increase the fuel efficiency of existing vehicles in the US. The founder, Wayne Gerdes, coined the term "hypermiling": exceeding the EPA's MPG standards. He established CleanMPG.com as a forum to discuss and improve fuel conservation methods, and to educate others about these methods.

Safety has always trumped fuel economy at CleanMPG. Drafting has been disavowed on safety grounds alone. Rolling through stop signs or red lights has never been presented as a fuel-saving practice. The group repeatedly advises drivers to evaluate for themselves whether a given method is safe for them and their particular vehicle. Drivers are also advised to implement only one new method at a time, and to test each in a safe setting before utilizing it in general driving conditions....http://www.sunherald.com/prnewswire/story/682428.html

dare2be
07-14-2008, 12:31 PM
Expect the hits on this site to skyrocket. Maybe we should start a pool on how long it takes for the number of members to double. :)

Vooch
07-14-2008, 12:33 PM
if Wayne thought he was busy before.....................

ikea4532
07-14-2008, 12:45 PM
very nice, i like the write up. hey wayne did you mean to give your phone number out like that? you will be taking calls up to next year! well anyway very nice work.

ALS
07-14-2008, 01:01 PM
Expect the hits on this site to skyrocket. Maybe we should start a pool on how long it takes for the number of members to double. :)

If this article is on target expect the site to get hammered from Europe.
Right now the Europeans are paying about 62.5 cents on the dollar for oil.
If the Euro and the Dollar hit parity the Europeans are going to see over 50% increase in fuel costs. E1.42 per liter today is going to look like a bargain compared to E2.27 per liter.
That would be E8.60 per U.S. gallon.

July 14 (Bloomberg) -- For three years euro bulls used the prospect of higher interest rates in Europe to justify the currency's 32 percent rally against the dollar. No more.

A growing number of the world's biggest investors say a slowdown in the region's economy may be more severe than in the U.S., forcing the European Central Bank to reverse this month's rate increase. By January, the euro will be lower against the dollar, yen and even the pound, according to the median estimate of strategists surveyed by Bloomberg. Bill Gross, manager of the world's biggest bond fund, turned bearish on the euro for the first time since the currency's inception in 1999.

``We might have hit a point where the euro doesn't have a lot to stand on,'' said Emanuele Ravano, co-head of European strategy in London for Gross's Pacific Investment Management Co., which runs the $129 billion Pimco Total Return Fund. ``The euro is ultimately very overvalued. It could be quite a bit lower at some point in time over the next couple of years.''

more bloomberg (http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601213&sid=awbjHoEJmCAA&refer=home)

bestmapman
07-14-2008, 01:06 PM
I can hear the phone ringing from here, and the clicking of the new member section. This should generate a lot of interest.

MaxxMPG
07-14-2008, 01:06 PM
Outstanding! Well presented, concise and even upbeat. I can't wait to see the "Start Your Journey Here" board explode in the next week or two as new members arrive.

dare2be
07-14-2008, 01:19 PM
I can hear the phone ringing from here, and the clicking of the new member section. This should generate a lot of interest.

Wayne, have you shut off your phone yet? :)

DocOc
07-14-2008, 01:23 PM
hope the server can take it

btw, thats how runs on currency start, through speculation. but it will be a cold day in the nether world when the euro will be on par with the USD

p3t3blair
07-14-2008, 01:23 PM
Awesome article. Now hopefully people will actually read it and understand.

xcel
07-14-2008, 01:34 PM
Hi All:

___I do not expect the CleanMPG release to make as big a splash as I would have hoped but it will make an interesting read for some of the journalists that were on the fence wrt what Hypermiling is all about. The 20 to 100% above the EPA is enough to shake the stupidity out of some I hope :)

___More than likely the bad press will simply lay off because they have been exposed. Or not???

___My phone number was supposed to be hidden other than for journalists and editors. Oh #*&*! :rolleyes:

___Good Luck

___Wayne

dare2be
07-14-2008, 01:39 PM
FWIW: The PR shows up on a Google search only on 4 sites, and the only one with your phone number is the Biloxi Sun Herald. Hopefully your phone number exposure is minimal. Too bad the PR exposure hasn't been very widespead. I think you should demand the money back :) The other sites from the google search are:

EarthTimes.org
StreetInsider.com
MarketWatch.com

gershon
07-14-2008, 01:43 PM
Keep in mind, the AAA article took weeks before it spread to other papers. I'd expect ours to do the same.

The people who send out the newswire have no control over who uses it. What I might suggest is we each send an email to our local paper asking that they run it.

Gershon

xcel
07-14-2008, 02:15 PM
Hi Dare2Be:

___The Press release was sent out less than 3 hours ago so I am not to concerned with distribution just yet… PRNewswire is about the biggest press release site we have available to us here in the US and thus the choice. It was not-inexpensive of course but thanks to the membership as a whole, the overall expense was reduced via the donations and PRNewswire is about the best medium we have to get the word out.

___I just had a 20-minute interview with a reporter from Montreal, Canada about the AAA non-sense in fact. I am not sure how he picked it up as it was supposed to be US only press release ;)

___Good Luck

___Wayne

Chuck
07-14-2008, 02:18 PM
Wayne,

The second Google hit was in the UK. :)

xcel
07-14-2008, 02:37 PM
Hi All:

___A little update but here is the list as I just received as far as release distribution is concerned.

Release headline: Hypermiling: a Safe Approach to Fuel Conservation

PRN Release

Release clear time: 07/14/2008 12:51

View your release posted on:

AOL Money News - 15,635,000 Visitors/day (from comScore Media Metrix)
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America's Car Show with Tom Torbjornsen - 53,000 Visitors/day (from comScore Media Metrix)
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Atlanta Business Chronicle - 111,000 Visitors/day (from comScore Media Metrix)
http://www.bizjournals.com/atlanta/prnewswire/press_releases/national/Illinois/2008/07/14/AQM080

Austin Business Journal - 11,000 Visitors/day (from comScore Media Metrix)
http://www.bizjournals.com/austin/prnewswire/press_releases/national/Illinois/2008/07/14/AQM080

Automotriz.net
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Baltimore Business Journal - 111,000 Visitors/day (from comScore Media Metrix)
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Banker and Tradesman - 53,000 Visitors/day (from comScore Media Metrix)
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Birmingham Business Journal - 111,000 Visitors/day (from comScore Media Metrix)
http://www.bizjournals.com/birmingham/prnewswire/press_releases/national/Illinois/2008/07/14/AQM080

Bizjournals.com, Inc. - 111,000 Visitors/day (from comScore Media Metrix)
http://www.bizjournals.com/prnewswire/press_releases/Illinois/2008/07/14/AQM080

Bolsamania (Web Financial Group)
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Boston Business Journal - 111,000 Visitors/day (from comScore Media Metrix)
http://www.bizjournals.com/boston/prnewswire/press_releases/national/Illinois/2008/07/14/AQM080

Breitbart.com
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=prnw.20080714.AQM080&show_article=1

Business First of Buffalo - 111,000 Visitors/day (from comScore Media Metrix)
http://www.bizjournals.com/buffalo/prnewswire/press_releases/national/Illinois/2008/07/14/AQM080

Business First of Columbus - 111,000 Visitors/day (from comScore Media Metrix)
http://www.bizjournals.com/columbus/prnewswire/press_releases/national/Illinois/2008/07/14/AQM080

Business First of Louisville - 111,000 Visitors/day (from comScore Media Metrix)
http://www.bizjournals.com/louisville/prnewswire/press_releases/national/Illinois/2008/07/14/AQM080

Business Journal of Greater Milwaukee - 111,000 Visitors/day (from comScore Media Metrix)
http://www.bizjournals.com/milwaukee/prnewswire/press_releases/national/Illinois/2008/07/14/AQM080

Business Journal of Phoenix - 111,000 Visitors/day (from comScore Media Metrix)
http://www.bizjournals.com/phoenix/prnewswire/press_releases/national/Illinois/2008/07/14/AQM080

Business Journal of the Greater Triad Ar - 111,000 Visitors/day (from comScore Media Metrix)
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Business Review (Albany) - 111,000 Visitors/day (from comScore Media Metrix)
http://www.bizjournals.com/albany/prnewswire/press_releases/national/Illinois/2008/07/14/AQM080

Charlotte Business Journal - 111,000 Visitors/day (from comScore Media Metrix)
http://www.bizjournals.com/charlotte/prnewswire/press_releases/national/Illinois/2008/07/14/AQM080

Cincinnati Business Courier - 111,000 Visitors/day (from comScore Media Metrix)
http://www.bizjournals.com/cincinnati/prnewswire/press_releases/national/Illinois/2008/07/14/AQM080

Dallas Business Journal - 111,000 Visitors/day (from comScore Media Metrix)
http://www.bizjournals.com/dallas/prnewswire/press_releases/national/Illinois/2008/07/14/AQM080

Dayton Business Journal - 111,000 Visitors/day (from comScore Media Metrix)
http://www.bizjournals.com/dayton/prnewswire/press_releases/national/Illinois/2008/07/14/AQM080

Denver Business Journal - 111,000 Visitors/day (from comScore Media Metrix)
http://www.bizjournals.com/denver/prnewswire/press_releases/national/Illinois/2008/07/14/AQM080

Earth Times
http://www.earthtimes.org/articles/show/hypermiling-a-safe-approach-to-fuel-conservation,466555.shtml

East Bay Business Times - 111,000 Visitors/day (from comScore Media Metrix)
http://www.bizjournals.com/eastbay/prnewswire/press_releases/national/Illinois/2008/07/14/AQM080

Financials.com
http://www.financials.com/info/story.cfm?storynum=3350962

Forbes.com - 256,000 Visitors/day (from comScore Media Metrix)
http://www.forbes.com/prnewswire/feeds/prnewswire/2008/07/14/prnewswire200807141251PR_NEWS_USPR_____AQM080.html

Fort Wayne News Sentinel - 53,000 Visitors/day (from comScore Media Metrix)
http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=sent_auto.story&STORY=/www/story/07-14-2008/0004848535&EDATE=MON+Jul+14+2008,+12:51+PM

Houston Business Journal - 111,000 Visitors/day (from comScore Media Metrix)
http://www.bizjournals.com/houston/prnewswire/press_releases/national/Illinois/2008/07/14/AQM080

Houston Chronicle
http://markets.chron.com/chron?GUID=5999208&Page=MediaViewer&ChannelID=3197

Interest!ALERT
http://interestalert.com/story/07140000aaa05b11.prn/siteia/ENVIRONM/environment.html

Jacksonville Business Journal - 111,000 Visitors/day (from comScore Media Metrix)
http://www.bizjournals.com/jacksonville/prnewswire/press_releases/national/Illinois/2008/07/14/AQM080

KAIT ABC-8 (Jonesboro, AR) - 4,000 Visitors/day (from comScore Media Metrix)
http://www.kait8.com/Global/story.asp?S=8671376&nav=menu67_12_5_1

KPLC NBC-7 (Lake Charles-Lafayette, LA) - 2,000 Visitors/day (from comScore Media Metrix)
http://www.kplctv.com/Global/story.asp?S=8671376

KRON - San Francisco TV4 - 15,000 Visitors/day (from comScore Media Metrix)
http://www.kron4.com/Global/story.asp?S=8671376&nav=menu130_13_12

Kansas City Business Journal - 111,000 Visitors/day (from comScore Media Metrix)
http://www.bizjournals.com/kansascity/prnewswire/press_releases/national/Illinois/2008/07/14/AQM080

Los Angeles Business from bizjournals - 111,000 Visitors/day (from comScore Media Metrix)
http://www.bizjournals.com/losangeles/prnewswire/press_releases/national/Illinois/2008/07/14/AQM080

Los Angeles Times - 53,000 Visitors/day (from comScore Media Metrix)
http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=LATAUT.story&STORY=/www/story/07-14-2008/0004848535&EDATE=MON+Jul+14+2008,+12:51+PM

MITECHNEWS.com - 53,000 Visitors/day (from comScore Media Metrix)
http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=MITNIL.story&STORY=/www/story/07-14-2008/0004848535&EDATE=Jul+14,+2008

Memphis Business Journal - 111,000 Visitors/day (from comScore Media Metrix)
http://www.bizjournals.com/memphis/prnewswire/press_releases/national/Illinois/2008/07/14/AQM080

Minneapolis / St. Paul Business Journal - 111,000 Visitors/day (from comScore Media Metrix)
http://www.bizjournals.com/twincities/prnewswire/press_releases/national/Illinois/2008/07/14/AQM080

Nashville Business Journal - 111,000 Visitors/day (from comScore Media Metrix)
http://www.bizjournals.com/nashville/prnewswire/press_releases/national/Illinois/2008/07/14/AQM080

New Mexico Business Weekly - 111,000 Visitors/day (from comScore Media Metrix)
http://www.bizjournals.com/albuquerque/prnewswire/press_releases/national/Illinois/2008/07/14/AQM080

News Blaze
http://newsblaze.com/story/2008071409530400003.pnw/topstory.html

Orlando Business Journal - 111,000 Visitors/day (from comScore Media Metrix)
http://www.bizjournals.com/orlando/prnewswire/press_releases/national/Illinois/2008/07/14/AQM080

PR Newswire - 53,000 Visitors/day (from comScore Media Metrix)
http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=104&STORY=/www/story/07-14-2008/0004848535&EDATE=

Pacific Business News - 111,000 Visitors/day (from comScore Media Metrix)
http://pacific.bizjournals.com/pacific/prnewswire/press_releases/national/Illinois/2008/07/14/AQM080

Philadelphia Business Journal - 111,000 Visitors/day (from comScore Media Metrix)
http://www.bizjournals.com/philadelphia/prnewswire/press_releases/national/Illinois/2008/07/14/AQM080

Pittsburgh Business Times - 111,000 Visitors/day (from comScore Media Metrix)
http://www.bizjournals.com/pittsburgh/prnewswire/press_releases/national/Illinois/2008/07/14/AQM080

Portland Business Journal - 111,000 Visitors/day (from comScore Media Metrix)
http://www.bizjournals.com/portland/prnewswire/press_releases/national/Illinois/2008/07/14/AQM080

Puget Sound Business Journal - 111,000 Visitors/day (from comScore Media Metrix)
http://www.bizjournals.com/seattle/prnewswire/press_releases/national/Illinois/2008/07/14/AQM080

RCR Wireless News (Crains Communications) -
http://studio-5.financialcontent.com/crain?Account=rcrnews&GUID=5999208&Page=MediaViewer&ChannelID=3197

Sacramento Business Journal - 111,000 Visitors/day (from comScore Media Metrix)
http://www.bizjournals.com/sacramento/prnewswire/press_releases/national/Illinois/2008/07/14/AQM080

San Antonio Business Journal - 111,000 Visitors/day (from comScore Media Metrix)
http://www.bizjournals.com/sanantonio/prnewswire/press_releases/national/Illinois/2008/07/14/AQM080

San Francisco Business Times - 111,000 Visitors/day (from comScore Media Metrix)
http://www.bizjournals.com/sanfrancisco/prnewswire/press_releases/national/Illinois/2008/07/14/AQM080

San Jose Business Journal - 111,000 Visitors/day (from comScore Media Metrix)
http://www.bizjournals.com/sanjose/prnewswire/press_releases/national/Illinois/2008/07/14/AQM080

South Florida Business Journal - 111,000 Visitors/day (from comScore Media Metrix)
http://www.bizjournals.com/southflorida/prnewswire/press_releases/national/Illinois/2008/07/14/AQM080

St. Louis Business Journal - 111,000 Visitors/day (from comScore Media Metrix)
http://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis/prnewswire/press_releases/national/Illinois/2008/07/14/AQM080

Tampa Bay Business Journal - 111,000 Visitors/day (from comScore Media Metrix)
http://www.bizjournals.com/tampabay/prnewswire/press_releases/national/Illinois/2008/07/14/AQM080

The Car Connection - 53,000 Visitors/day (from comScore Media Metrix)
http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=CARCON.story&STORY=/www/story/07-14-2008/0004848535&EDATE=MON+Jul+14+2008,+12:51+PM

Triangle Business Journal - 111,000 Visitors/day (from comScore Media Metrix)
http://www.bizjournals.com/triangle/prnewswire/press_releases/national/Illinois/2008/07/14/AQM080

US Politics Today
http://uspolitics.einnews.com/news.php?nid=507362

WAFF NBC-48 (Huntsville, AL)- 7,000 Visitors/day (from comScore Media Metrix)
http://www.waff.com/Global/story.asp?S=8671376

WISHTV CBS-8 - 14,000 Visitors/day (from comScore Media Metrix)
http://www.wishtv.com/Global/story.asp?S=8671376&nav=menu35_8

WLEX NBC-18 (Lexington, KY)
http://www.wlextv.com/Global/story.asp?S=8671376

WLNS CBS-6 (Lansing, MI) - 6,000 Visitors/day (from comScore Media Metrix)
http://www.wlns.com/Global/story.asp?S=8671376

WLOX ABC-13 (Biloxi, MS) - 8,000 Visitors/day (from comScore Media Metrix)
http://www.wlox.com/Global/story.asp?S=8671376

WNEP ABC-16 (Moosic, PA) - 28,000 Visitors/day (from comScore Media Metrix)
http://www.wnep.com/Global/story.asp?S=8671376

WOI ABC-5 (West Des Moines, IA)
http://www.woi-tv.com/Global/story.asp?S=8671376

WOIO CBS-19 (Cleveland, OH)
http://www.19actionnews.com/Global/story.asp?S=8671376

WPRI FOX-12 (East Providence, RI) - 8,000 Visitors/day (from comScore Media Metrix)
http://www.eyewitnessnewstv.com/Global/story.asp?S=8671376

WQAD ABC-8 (Moline, IL) - 3,000 Visitors/day (from comScore Media Metrix)
http://www.wqad.com/Global/story.asp?S=8671376

WRIC ABC-8 (Richmond, VA) - 1,000 Visitors/day (from comScore Media Metrix) http://www.wric.com/Global/story.asp?S=8671376

WSFA NBC-12 (Montgomery, AL) - 11,000 Visitors/day (from comScore Media Metrix)
http://www.wsfa.com/Global/story.asp?S=8671376

WTEN ABC-10 (Albany, NY) - 5,000 Visitors/day (from comScore Media Metrix)
http://www.wten.com/Global/story.asp?S=8671376

WTKR CBS-3 (Norfolk, VA) - 6,000 Visitors/day (from comScore Media Metrix)
http://www.wtkr.com/Global/story.asp?S=8671376

WTOC CBS-11 (Savannah, GA)
http://www.wtoctv.com/Global/story.asp?S=8671376

WTOL CBS-11 (Toledo, OH) - 9,000 Visitors/day (from comScore Media Metrix)
http://www.wtol.com/Global/story.asp?S=8671376

Washington Business Journal - 111,000 Visitors/day (from comScore Media Metrix)
http://www.bizjournals.com/washington/prnewswire/press_releases/national/Illinois/2008/07/14/AQM080

Wichita Business Journal - 111,000 Visitors/day (from comScore Media Metrix)
http://www.bizjournals.com/wichita/prnewswire/press_releases/national/Illinois/2008/07/14/AQM080

Yahoo!
http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/080714/aqm080.html?.v=50

Yahoo! Canada
http://ca.biz.yahoo.com/prnews/080714/aqm080.html?.v=50

___Good Luck

___Wayne

c0da
07-14-2008, 03:25 PM
Glad to see this. I really hope it boosts the general public's concern.

philmcneal
07-14-2008, 05:24 PM
very well said wayne, you were number 1 for a reason. haha

A024523
07-14-2008, 05:31 PM
Well done and a great collaborative effort! Thanks to everyone who contributed their efforts and donations, especially Wayne! It feels good to have that rebuttal out there, truely a score against ignorance.

xcel
07-14-2008, 06:25 PM
Hi All:

___To add some reality here, this one was first written up by John Flory (Lightfoot) and with a number of edits including Msirach’s wife, the final version went up today ;)

___Good Luck

___Wayne

owlmaster08
07-14-2008, 07:23 PM
Wow, that's a lot of sites...

F&T
07-14-2008, 08:34 PM
In the electrical trades we have a saying that goes thus: If you can't work safely, you can't work. That should go for driving as well, and that's one thing I especially like about this forum.

As for drafting, it's just way too stressful; and besides, you don't get to see the bucolic countryside or the serene city.

And obviously, Wayne has put a ton of work into this project.

DocOc notes above that the euro dollar will never surpass the US dollar. However, the Bible, while many people discount it, notes that there will be one world currency; a logical result of globalization. In theological circles, it's thought that that will be the euro dollar.

Faithful and True.

msirach
07-14-2008, 10:06 PM
I see it's on the WSJ's Marketwatch (http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/hypermiling-safe-approach-fuel-conservation/story.aspx?guid=%7B5E002D2F-7D48-4158-8978-CBA86313921C%7D&dist=hppr)website.

sailordave
07-14-2008, 11:38 PM
What gets me about the whole AAA thing is their (AAA) tips on improving mpg are so small and minor as to be almost useless. The things I've done have increased my mpg by 5 or more and they're all free, no installing of gadgets, and no voiding any warranty. I don't see a single fuel saving product on the market that can give you that kind of fuel saving in reality (though some do make the claim that they can't back up with fact). Even if you use only a few of the tips here and save 3 to 4 mpg, that adds up to quiet a savings in the long run. Now if only we could get USA Today or some other major newspaper to cover this the way this paper did.

Oh, by the way,...one of my neighbors has an early 1970s model Caddy sedan she's trying to sell real cheap. Anyone want to buy this black smoke blower?

owlmaster08
07-15-2008, 03:40 AM
Oh, by the way,...one of my neighbors has an early 1970s model Caddy sedan she's trying to sell real cheap. Anyone want to buy this black smoke blower?

Scrap it! :P hehe

JusBringIt
07-15-2008, 05:10 AM
Hypermiling FTW! ...the explosion should come soon..wait for it....wait for it....



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