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What changes/improvements would you like to see in the next version of Scan Gauge?

I would like:

1. Bigger buttons

2. A way to re-set DAY, that pushes current day to previous day. My car doesn't get to rest 9-10 hours before I use it again and my TODAY usually ends up being about a weeks worth of driving.

Brighter backlighting! Even though I've placed the unit in the best location, I often have trouble reading the display. And I can never wear sunglasses.

I'm using the green color currently.

Lane

The option to be able to switch between the
4 gauge choices or 1 HUGE MPG which fills the entire screen.....

Data logging and connectivity to a PC w/ accompanying software.

The option to be able to switch between the
4 gauge choices or 1 HUGE MPG which fills the entire screen.....

That's a cool idea, only it needs to be any gauge. My current practice is to try to maintain a TPS under 30, so that's the gauge I would display.

Lane

Hi Mojack:

___Nice idea to create an SG-III Suggestion thread. When there are a few more posts, I will personally forward this thread to Ron DeLong of Linear Logic ;) Right now he is busy becoming a multi-millionaire but I suspect by fall the ScanGauge volumes he must be pushing right now will fall off a tad and he can get back to work doing the more mundane things like giving us data logging, larger buttons, possibly a larger and brighter display…

___Good Luck

___Wayne

I second the idea about resetting Today. I'd like to combine several segments, like if I stop for milk and bread on the way home.

I would like to see an anti-reflective screen or an optional hood designed for the ScanGuage. I can not put it where I want it and be able to read it in the daytime. It now requires a glance down to the center console, so it is not as useful as it could be.

Trend indication, or rather one more digit to current/tank/day/etc trip mpg, so that it is easier to see if the average is decreasing or increasing

Have it display 6 or 8 items instead of 4. Much much better Fen Shui that way.

I wanted to add a couple ides I had, But first wanted to mention: I think the price point is key! Being able to join a group buy here at cleanmpg.com put it at a price point were I as OK buying it.
After all I figure it needs to pay for it’s self with gas savings. At best I was getting 36-37 MPG with Scanguage I am getting 38-39. at $4 a gallon that’s about $.01 a mile.
$150 = 15,000 miles to pay for it’s self at $.01
9months to 1 year of driving for me.


Now some idea’s:

I can see were some people would like to be able to reset the Today, and I sometimes would like to adjust the time for current trip clearing out (just a little longer). How about user adjustable reset times for current and today.

This next idea I like but…. I don’t know if I would be willing to pay much more for it, and the size of it is not bad now. would larger sell well?
How about an optional 2 model has a larger screen.
Maybe instead of 2 lines high, 3-4 lines high.

Right now on my screen I have
MPG (Current Tank MPG)
(Current Trip MPG) throttle position
I would like space to add.
Load RPM
Speed


I also like the idea of 1 large gauge option. Maybe on a larger screen we could get 1 large gauge and 4 small!

Two things for me:

(1) VERY IMPORTANT: software rewrite that sets gph to zero whenever rpm=0 so that mpg does not drop while the ICE is OFF (coasting or stopped) as it does now, at least in my Subaru.

(2) resettable TODAY average (just add a reset line identical to the one for CURRENT)

Add mpg in Imperial (UK) Gallons!

Data logging and connectivity to a PC w/ accompanying software.

I would like to second that.

I'd like to see a model with 8 gauges that can be displayed. 4 just isn't enough sometimes.

Data logging to flash memory (or whatever) would be great. It would probably cost some $$ but I would gladly pay for it as an add-on or option.

Dan's Wish List


Fix the SGIIx FW v3.15* passive CANbus bug. FW v3.15 units process passive CANbus XGauges correctly. These are gauges with a 4 digit TXD such as the BTV gauge for the Prius. Units that were upgraded to FW v3.15* fail to handle these gauges correctly (ie, nothing is displayed).
Fix the SGIIx GPH Prius glide bug (http://priuschat.com/forums/showthread.php?p=511703). While in a glide (MPH > 0; RPM = 0) in a prius, the GPH reads 0.01. This bug was introduced in the 3.15 firmware, and I'd like to see it fixed (like in the old firmware).
Fix the XGauge HEX Documentation bug - Bit 32 of RXF is documented to signal HEX formatting (if set), but it doesn't seem to have any effect. I've found that the correct bit is bit 20 of RXF. The bit mask to OR on bit 32 is 0x000000008000, here's the OR on mas for bit 20 0x000010000000. I'm assuming little endian.
Provide a XGauge "Refresh Rate" for passive CAN data - Passive CAN packets come through so fast that the gauge flickers a lot. It would be nice to have a "Refresh Rate" bit. I'd suggest Bit 33 for 4x refresh and bit 34 for 16x refresh. 4x would only sample one out of every 4 packets. 16x would only sample one out of every 16 packets.
Provide XGauge support for 12bit signed numbers. It seems that 12bit signed numbers are not sign extended when they get to the MTH. 12bit signed numbers are the usual victim, but any other non 8/16/32 bit number could fall victim.
Two or more "Trip" counters - I'd like to see a "Current A" and "Current B" or something.
The ability to have an "on/off" counter for people who log business miles. I think it would be cool to have a "Buisness" trip counter. They could add a little switch on the side "business on / off" When it's set to "on" all the miles logged will increment the business counter. When it's off, miles logged will not increment the business counter. Then at the end of the quarter I can just look at my SG and pull business trip report data from it. Make logging business miles a breeze.
Label Free option - 8 gauges instead of 4 - Since a label takes 3 characters and a gauge takes 4, a bit of creative gauge placement would allow 6 (if not 8) gauges by stripping off the labels. 8 or even 6 gauges on one LCD would be perfect for me. I don't need labels to recognize RPM, IGN, SOC, BTA, WTc, and TPS.
USB hookup for data-logging and DC powering - This way you could click in your XGauges from the comfort of your office, and even pull the logs via the USB port.
Ability to disable a built in gauge. With all the XGauges I use, it would be nice to disable the "default" gauges I don't such as LP, VLT and MPH.
Better heat tolerance. Living in Texas my SGIIx LCD screen always fades when I park the car in the sun too long.


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1. Of course Data logging
2. GPS connection ability
3. if your vehicle has an outside temperature it would log that if Data logging was available.
4. Time of Day for logging purposes
5. PC software that would allow you to view all of the gauges and xgauges for a given time period.

all of that and hope the price didn't go up to much.

I'd like to see a model with 8 gauges that can be displayed. 4 just isn't enough sometimes.


I agree with wanting the option for a "ScanGauge Jumbo" model available in addition to the classic current SG. As an Insight owner, I'd love to have both a gauge for air/fuel ratio, and also have the gauge be able to account for the changes during Lean Burn and accurately track MPG.

Also, but not likely possible, I'd love to be able to see SoC and BTA X-Gauges simultaneously in the Prius as they are inter-related.

The improvements made from SG1 to SG2 were amazing. The X-Gauge feature is a great addition. Whatever the 3rd generation brings will be a welcomed surprise as long as there is a gauge available at a similar (or lower) price point. I know some have expressed an interest in a smaller, simpler gauge that displays fewer gauges and has less complicated features for people looking for an economical tool to help raises their mileage. I could see a "Scan Gauge lite, or Scan Gauge Mini" selling well with people becoming increasingly fuel conscious, especially if it looked more natural in an upscale car's interior.

A very important one for me: Get rid of the hybrid setting and make every fuel type a hybrid. Currently, there is no way to set up a diesel as a hybrid, so when the engine shuts off, so does the ScanGauge.

A very important one for me: Get rid of the hybrid setting and make every fuel type a hybrid. Currently, there is no way to set up a diesel as a hybrid, so when the engine shuts off, so does the ScanGauge.

I second that, the MPG readings for the segment are useless as soon as I FAS.

Kirk

Dan's Wish List...Added a few XGauge bugs to my wish-list.

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Rather than display 8 gauges at once, give us the ability to have gauges cycle through on 1-4 of the spots. Similar to how a bank clock flips through temperature in C, temperature in F, and time.

I know some have expressed an interest in a smaller, simpler gauge that displays fewer gauges and has less complicated features for people looking for an economical tool to help raises their mileage. I could see a "Scan Gauge lite, or Scan Gauge Mini" selling well with people becoming increasingly fuel conscious, especially if it looked more natural in an upscale car's interior.

I would be one of those that would like a more economical model since the only thing keeping me from getting on now is the Sgii just costs too much for me to buy.

FE LED? Glows green when trip MPG is increasing, red when it's dropping.

Onboard memory to store historical data - USB Interface for setup/programming uploading/downloading recorded data.

Let's face it, the manual is hard to read. This is something that could and should be corrected now. Major problems:

- It's tiny. The print is too small. (BTW, a larger-format PDF version can be downloaded at the ScanGauge web site.)
- It's somewhat disorganized, which makes it difficult to find topics. The author keeps changing fonts and font sizes for his headings, and it seems like he is trying to save paper in that he avoids leaving blank lines in the text. It also needs a table of contents and an index.
- Parts of it are not very clear. While I understand that the ScanGauge is a mechanic's tool that may also be very useful to automotive morons like myself, care should be taken to make as much of the explanations as possible understandable to the greatest number of users. References to external sources would be helpful.
- In some places he lays out procedures, like the installation, in cookbook fashion. This is good. Steps are numbered and easy enough to follow. In other instances, he just tells the steps in paragraph form.
- Abbreviations get thrown around a lot in the text. A glossary would be helpful here.

(I hope my two cents are clear!)

i'd like options to do real time logging and or drive an external interface (ie output via USb, or serial or something)

color touch screen would be great too ;-D

One more: better resistance to overheating. Maybe some shielding inside the case or something like that.

For data logging, skip the USB connection and have a front slot for a MicroSD card.

--Bill

For data logging, skip the USB connection and have a front slot for a MicroSD card.

--Bill

Brilliant. I say brilliant!...that is as long as you could use the MicroSD card to perform firmware updates and program the unit.

Let's face it, the manual is hard to read. This is something that could and should be corrected now. Major problems:

- It's tiny. The print is too small. (BTW, a larger-format PDF version can be downloaded at the ScanGauge web site.)
- It's somewhat disorganized, which makes it difficult to find topics. The author keeps changing fonts and font sizes for his headings, and it seems like he is trying to save paper in that he avoids leaving blank lines in the text. It also needs a table of contents and an index.
- Parts of it are not very clear. While I understand that the ScanGauge is a mechanic's tool that may also be very useful to automotive morons like myself, care should be taken to make as much of the explanations as possible understandable to the greatest number of users. References to external sources would be helpful.
- In some places he lays out procedures, like the installation, in cookbook fashion. This is good. Steps are numbered and easy enough to follow. In other instances, he just tells the steps in paragraph form.
- Abbreviations get thrown around a lot in the text. A glossary would be helpful here.

(I hope my two cents are clear!)

Let me add a couple more items to the manual list.

- an index - it is very hard to find something I have seen before. The organization needs to be thought out in terms of what belongs together in the manual - as it stands things are scattered. It would be good to have all the setup and calibration info in one spot for example.
- a little more thought on how to do things. Like calibrating the distance. The easiest method is at the end but even that could be improved upon. The simplest method has to be to use the trip meter on the car (if you trust it) or on a GPS and compare that to the trip distances on the sg. The ratio is the adjustment factor. Then you don't have the safety issue of trying to figure out the adjustment while you are driving.

I would like the ability to store multiple vehicle configurations without having to re-enter each vehicles parameters when switching back and forth between vehicles.

In the same vein as data logging, I'd like the ability to take "snapshots" of certain portions of trips, sort of like lap times with a stopwatch. I'd maybe like to see highway vs. city mileage since I usually take roads through towns on highway trips.

So I just got my SGII earlier today and am just trying it out, but here are my thoughts so far on a "wish-list":

1) Already mentioned here, but the ability to cycle through screens (such as between the TRIP and GAUGE screens, for example). The digital odometer I put on my bicycle has this feature, switching through current speed, avg speed, max spd, total distance, and total time.

2) A protective case, similar to what a cellphone or PDA would have. Leather (or "Pleather"?), nylon/polyester, etc. I'm still a bit skittish about handling this thing over concrete.

3) Graphical displays, such as a moving bar to indicate MPG, miles to empty, etc.

But I'm looking forward to using my SGII to see what I can accomplish.

I'd like to use the SG in multiple vehicles and have it maintain correct today, yesterday, and tank counts for at least one of them.

Publish XGauge codes for Catalytic Converter Temp.

O2 sensor voltage, LTFT, and STFT are part of the OBD-II spec. Why must we program them into XGauge? There are so few XGauge codes listed and the cases are so simple why must we program them at all? For a couple more cents all that could be built in.

O2 sensor gauges are too slow.

Ability to disable gauges that I don't use.

Simple histograms to help determine how speed, rpm, ECT, IAT, engine load, and other parameters affect MPG. These histograms should be transferable to the computer as graphs for comparisons. I'd to see graphs of a gas guzzler and a gas miser on the same screen. If I change from one sensor to another I'd like to see which one makes the best histogram.

Calculate City and Highway averages.

ALl these improvements will take one heck of a manual!! :D

Ability to disable gauges that I don't use. Good one! I added it to my wish list as well.Dan's Wish List...Added heat tolerance, XGauge FW 3.15* CANbus bug, and plagiarized the request to disable gauges I don't use.

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Don't know if someone mentioned this...ability to set it for multiple drivers, such that one knows that the decrement in FE is the SO's fault...it could have learning ability so that if the driver did not set the user, if the RPM's hit 3000 within a minute of startup, then the SG knows it's not me.

Brian

Here's something else I thought of over the weekend: option to have different units for different gauge functions. Today we have MPG and GPH. I'd like to keep MPG, but instead of GPH I'd like to see this in a metric equivalent, such as litres/hr, or perhaps with a smaller denominator, like cc/minute or cc/sec.

Is it possible for the scanguage to display fuel ethanol compositoin percent? I would live to know if I am using 10%, 15%, 5% or what ever percent of ethanol present in the fuel. A larger screen and buttons space apart a little more would be nice.

If you have the XGauge FW you can look at your Trim Tables and O2 sensors to make an educated guess. Here's a good writeup on O2 sensors (http://www.omninerd.com/articles/Improve_MPG_The_Factors_Affecting_Fuel_Efficiency). A XG value of 45 is good, above 45 is rich, below 45 is lean. A better indicator may be to look at your short term trim tables (http://www.4x4wire.com/toyota/4Runner/tech/OBDII_ECU/) these will adjust instantly whenever the mixture is too rich or too lean. I know Ethanol forces these in a certain direction, but I'm not sure which.

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Manual re-written and just downloadable (PDF) to save on printing costs.

Input jacks on both sides to make mounting easier? (May be cost-prohibitive.)

Ability to set "target" MPG range, green LED lights up when you are "in the groove" ;-)

BIG flashing Red LED when you are out of the range, or during dramatic RPM jumps, etc. (configurable sensitivity) <LOL>

Ditto for the "re-set DAY" comments (and I've only been using for 5 days... heh heh... "using"... lol... I sound like a junkie)

That's all for now.

I think being able to pull logs from the SGIII via USB would be an excellent addition (and probably not a massive amount of work to do either.)

Also, I think it would be good if real time gauge data could be pulled from the SGIII via USB while it's running. My thought for this is that analog 'add-on' gauges could be built for the SG, I personally find it much easier to read an analog RPM gauge than the digital number on the SG display. And I'm sure this feature could be used for other purposes as well if implemented correctly.

I think being able to pull logs from the SGIII via USB would be an excellent addition (and probably not a massive amount of work to do either.)

Also, I think it would be good if real time gauge data could be pulled from the SGIII via USB while it's running. My thought for this is that analog 'add-on' gauges could be built for the SG, I personally find it much easier to read an analog RPM gauge than the digital number on the SG display. And I'm sure this feature could be used for other purposes as well if implemented correctly.I like the USB pass-thru idea, but I'd still allow it to be limited as the current SG is. Currently SG will only go after (query) a finite number of PIDs to keep the OBD traffic down. 8 Gauges (ie two SG daisy-chained) is usually the most that many ODBII interfaces support. So I think it would be ok for the USB pass-thru to only data-log the gauges you have selected for your GAUGE screen. There are a few that you get for "free" that are used to calculate MPG and stuff. Those are always on. This would reduce the amount of work to implement this feature since the FW already cherry-picks what to poll based on your gauge selection.

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make a SG Lite, with only a few of the main options available on the full version, at half the cost.

make a SG Lite, with only a few of the main options available on the full version, at half the cost.

They could call them SG Home and Professional.

Then we could buy SG Home and hack it to have all the same features as the pro version:)

It would be nice to be able to display the -LIVE- MPG reading at the same time as the TRIP MPG reading. I believe that currently they are completely separate fctns and can't be displayed simultaneously.

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Fix the XGauge HEX Documentation bug - Bit 32 of RXF is documented to signal HEX formatting (if set), but it doesn't seem to have any effect. I've found that the correct bit is bit 20 of RXF. The bit mask to OR on bit 32 is 0x000000008000, here's the OR on mas for bit 20 0x000010000000. I'm assuming little endian.
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Updated my list... Turns out the new documentation is wrong. The XGauge programming manual says that coding the first character of the "Offset 3" descriptor as "8" signals HEX formatting. Through trial and error, the magic bit is achieved by coding the first character of "Offset 2" to "1" which does the job in formatting HEX perfectly. For the bit bangers out there, in little endian notation that is bit 32 (incorrect) and bit 20 (correct). For the big endian bit bangers it's bit 15 and 27 respectively.

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It would be nice to be able to display the -LIVE- MPG reading at the same time as the TRIP MPG reading. I believe that currently they are completely separate fctns and can't be displayed simultaneously.

It works on my sg.

I would like an extra digit displayed for the fuel usage. You can get a more accurate number now by dividing miles by mpg but I'd like to see it in real time for the trip. That would make it easier to evaluate choices on how to take certain hills and roads that are relatively short. Plus having it for the gas fill ups would allow a bit more accuracy in the gas tank calibration.

The fillup screen shows it X.X, but the trip screen shows X.XX. It may roll to XX.X after you pass 10 gallons.

The fillup screen shows it X.X, but the trip screen shows X.XX. It may roll to XX.X after you pass 10 gallons.

I don't use 10 gallons on many trips - that would be well over 300 miles - I've stopped at least once by then.

What I would like is X.XX on the fillup and X.XXX on the trip.

If you can't wait, check out DashDyno SPD... Right now it has 3 programmable alert LEDs, data logging to SD card, numerous screen formatting to choose from, and calculates HP and torque. Downsides... Costs $400 and can't survive a power cycle :D

I don't work for those guys... I just got a unit and feels it under-represented here.

You can't read off OBD2 port something that isn't monitored by the ECU.

Now, my ScanGauge wishlist:

- I still don't completely understand CMNDS and XGAUGE even after reading the documentation, so that could use some improvement.
- A simplified OBD command entry wizard where I just enter OBD2 mode, then PID, then SG validates them and sends it. The current CMNDS mode where we build our own commands would become the expert mode.
- ELM327-compatible PC passthrough interface so we can use open source OBD2 programs and enter our own commands :D . That means a USB port.
- SD card slot. Then changing profiles is as simple as swapping cards. (I'm already doing this with my DashDyno. :D) BUT, it needs to be able to operate without a SD card inserted. (DashDyno hangs in some places if there's no SD card.)
- I don't know if SG2 currently survives it, but on my 99 Corolla the OBD2 port loses power while the engine cranks. I want an optional DC power jack to make sure it survives this. DashDyno can't. I have to bring along a portable power unit to keep it working through FAS maneuvers. :o

OTOH I want to bring some of what SG2 currently offers and pass them on as my DashDyno wishlist. :cool:

Even though many of my ideas have already been mentioned, I'll repeat some here. With enough demand, there's more chance of improvement.


Possibility to add/remove some gauges from the list when you cycle them, including Xgauges.
Auto/manual cycling of 2 gauge sets (screens).
Option to show 1 big gauge (also cycle between up to 4 big gauges)
Ability to reset the "day".
I would also like 2 current trip functions, but one that you *have* to reset yourself (wont stop with engine). Useful when you have to turn off the engine/FAS even if trip is not over. This suggestion could be achieved with the "day reset" function above though.

Optional mounting kit (succion or other kind, like GPS units) offered.


Also, to be on the positive side, here are some nice features of the SG2 that I would like to keep on next versions:
-Different measurement units can be used(i.e.: not everything metric OR imperial/US). I prefer (well, I'm used to) the metric system for everything except pressure (PSI). :o
-Two connectors for different mounting places. Makes the SG2 modular. :D
-User's display colors. Gadget, yeah, but it blends with the OEM lighting.

I can't think of everything now, but the ScanGauge 2 is a great small box, with big advantages.

My Wish list,

1. More simultaneous gauges (right now, we have to buy a second SG if we want more than 4 gauges at one time)
2. Gauge profile groups where I can define a number of groups with each group displaying its own list of gauges.
3. An easy directed mode ala Kiwi (with consumption targets) so that people can get the hang of conserving.
4. PC connectivity
5. Full data logging with onboard memory and the ability of downloading the logs
6. Gauge editor tool on a PC
7. Ability to upload new gauge code from a PC.

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Originally Posted by bigbill25
For data logging, skip the USB connection and have a front slot for a MicroSD card.

--Bill

Brilliant. I say brilliant!...that is as long as you could use the MicroSD card to perform firmware updates and program the unit.
AMEN to BOTH of you!!! As my very first post, I'll say this is the best suggestion on this forum I've seen.
Aside for WhatIsChazaq, I've increased my MPG in my 04 WRX 2.0 to 29 before I joined this forum! I can't wait to see what tricks I'll learn here to finally break through the 30 mark!!!
And finally, as a Scangauge newbie, can anyone enlighten me as to what protocol the Subaru uses for codes? What about the Hyundai? Many, many thanks!!

Welcome Showbizk!

I just realized how much I would like a moving average on any of my FE gauges. It would be cool if I could code up TANK_MPG_MA to record the average MPG for the last X miles, or last Y gallons, or last Z minutes. Really nice to have on those highway trips to see if I'm falling off my target. The way I see it you program up an XGauge like one of the trip XGauges, but it has a special bit that you can set to tell the gauge to only display the average over the period you specify. The bit could select between a period of:

Miles (or)
Gallons / Ounces (or)
Hours / Minutes


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First of all, I love my SGII. But as other people mentionned, the ability to pull data off the SG through some sort of usb interface would be nice. Plotting SG data along with GPS coordinates while driving would allow me to have a better understanding of my FE techniques with multiples scenarios (like drafting, coasting, P&G, etc.) and conditions (winds, rain, cruising speed) while traveling a couple of times on the exact same road segment.

It seems intuitive to me that the side plug on the Scangauge II should be on the left instead of the right. Since we here in the US drive on the left and the cord will probably go down the drivers side of the car it would make for a cleaner install in some situations.

How about better interface to add x gage's and better DB of the OEM points. Seems amazing the basic stuff on a Honda are not known like:
O2 sensors
Vtec mode
fuel flow

I'd also like a more precise "time" unit - minutes for example. I also think the metric system applied to time isn't that intuitive (i.e. 0.4 hour).

We could use an hybrid number, like 01h18m or 01:18.

I think a more intuitive XGauge interface would be great. Maybe the SG could 'scan' for sensors and let you know what your vehicle has installed.

Also I feel like we are in desperate need of an official database of XGauge code.

Another thought. I can go out and buy a full color GPS for my car for the same price as the ScanGauge. I would love to see the next ScanGauge look like an in-car GPS unit with customizable gauges and data logging (to a SD card). I would sure think that it would be possible to sell it for $150.

For example, this GPS unit (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000PCBVA6/ref=amb_link_7362682_2?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=left-1&pf_rd_r=1611A5T6G175VDZ9KR8Q&pf_rd_t=201&pf_rd_p=439258201&pf_rd_i=B000YFUQ7I) features a 4.3" touch screen (for $142.00). I would absolutely love to see ScanGauge 3 in a form factor like this.

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x284/oisiaa/gps.jpg

I think a more intuitive XGauge interface would be great. Maybe the SG could 'scan' for sensors and let you know what your vehicle has installed.

Also I feel like we are in desperate need of an official database of XGauge code.

Another thought. I can go out and buy a full color GPS for my car for the same price as the ScanGauge. I would love to see the next ScanGauge look like an in-car GPS unit with customizable gauges and data logging (to a SD card). I would sure think that it would be possible to sell it for $150.

For example, this GPS unit (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000PCBVA6/ref=amb_link_7362682_2?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=left-1&pf_rd_r=1611A5T6G175VDZ9KR8Q&pf_rd_t=201&pf_rd_p=439258201&pf_rd_i=B000YFUQ7I) features a 4.3" touch screen (for $142.00). I would absolutely love to see ScanGauge 3 in a form factor like this.

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x284/oisiaa/gps.jpg

If Scanguage 111 went this way it would be possible to utilize a touch screen.

I think a more intuitive XGauge interface would be great. Maybe the SG could 'scan' for sensors and let you know what your vehicle has installed.

Also I feel like we are in desperate need of an official database of XGauge code.

Another thought. I can go out and buy a full color GPS for my car for the same price as the ScanGauge. I would love to see the next ScanGauge look like an in-car GPS unit with customizable gauges and data logging (to a SD card). I would sure think that it would be possible to sell it for $150.

For example, this GPS unit (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000PCBVA6/ref=amb_link_7362682_2?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=left-1&pf_rd_r=1611A5T6G175VDZ9KR8Q&pf_rd_t=201&pf_rd_p=439258201&pf_rd_i=B000YFUQ7I) features a 4.3" touch screen (for $142.00). I would absolutely love to see ScanGauge 3 in a form factor like this.

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x284/oisiaa/gps.jpgWell when you get down too it, the actuall HW required for the SG is pretty small if you take out the UI. If you add BlueTooth capabilities, I think you could fit it all in a fob that plugs into the OBDII port. Then just distribute pure SW to run on TomTom or anyone else that can listen to the SG BlueTooth broadcast. Heck, you could even write a client that runs on Windows Mobile 6 smart phones.

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It would be good to have an expansion slot for an SD card. That way you could use a program on the PC to send the X-Gauges you create to the SD card. It would be a lot easier than trying to input the numbers through the scangauge.

I would like something that my OBDI 92 Geo Metro 1.0liter, cable driven speedometer reading 17 year old car could use. Could someone just build ONE for me. Oh and I want a pony too!:D - Dale

Dale, can you install the mpguino?

Dale, can you install the mpguino?

I'm capable, but I'm awaiting confirmation that I'm compatible.

I appreciate the lead, I had discounted the MPGuino prematurely months ago because of it's DIY configuration and had forgot about it completely. Since no other options appear to be forthcoming it seems like an excellent choice now.

My new consideration is if the MPGuino can work on my car then the SuperMid should also. The deciding point is the VSS (variable speed sensor). I'm waiting on metro owners with pre 97 cars running the MPGuino to get back with me at ecomodder.com - Dale

Sounds like there's a good chance it will work for you! Just remember that the SuperMid is metric only...

I have a SG in a Honda Ridgeline, and I'd like to see the actual values from the TPMS sending units. Currently, I get a dash symbol telling me that a tire is below the cutoff, but that's not very helpful, since I like to run 7-8 lbs above the cutoff.

Prior to the SG, I had (still have) a Davis CarChip. This little jewel recorded a whole bunch of data in memory, then allowed a download to an Excel file. I would leave it connected for the duration of a week-long trip, and then I could do a detailed analysis of the trip, time, mileage, stops, and total cost on my PC. If I want to do that for my next trip, I'll have to unplug the SG for the duration. It would be nice if the OBDII plug for the SG had a simple passthrough so I could plug in the CarChip at the same time.

I ordered a splitter off Ebay. (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/OBDII-Y-Cable-Splitter-Atek-Actia-compatible-OBD-II_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZ72Q3a1205Q7c66Q3a2Q7c65Q3a12Q7c39Q3a1Q7c240Q3a1318QQ_trksidZp3911Q2ec0Q2em14QQhashZitem350135405174QQitemZ350135405174QQptZMotorsQ5fAutomotiveQ5fTools)

I use it to hook a a laptop with an OBDII program as well as a Scangauge at the same time.

I ordered a splitter off Ebay. (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/OBDII-Y-Cable-Splitter-Atek-Actia-compatible-OBD-II_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trkparmsZ72Q3a1205Q7c66Q3a2Q7c65Q3a12Q7c39Q3a1Q7c240Q3a1318QQ_trksidZp3911Q2ec0Q2em14QQhashZitem350135405174QQitemZ350135405174QQptZMotorsQ5fAutomotiveQ5fTools)

I use it to hook a a laptop with an OBDII program as well as a Scangauge at the same time.
Cool! Thanks for that -- I'll grab a splitter before my next trip. :D

ditto on trending - something like programmable 15sec, 30sec, 60sec, 5min, 10 min, and 15min rolling MPG average would be nice (or heck, we just set the length of time we want - infinitely variable).
ditto on more gauges
More RAM - I get delays of up to 10 seconds or more for the gauge to come back when toggling gauges. the feedback should be there from the car so there apparently isn't enough memory in the SGii.

For me I could do with the following -

- A manual that reads like a manual - eg You have vehicle setup (Engine size, fuel type etc) as the 2nd section (1st being the connection on the unit).
- The ability to select US or UK Gallons.
- The ability to select the spelling of words (I know it seems like a small thing, but it's nice)
- More than just 3 letters for the label. (eg allow 2 line display, top line is label, bottom is value)
- Autoswitching gauges (Combined with the longer label function) - this would allow you to have a proper label on the top line, then the value on the bottom line and the gauge could then be set to switch to a different gauge/xgauge (if required) after a set period of time.

eg

Trip Miles today -
100 Miles

then after 5 seconds

Trip MPG today -
50.1 MPG

another 5 seconds

Tank to empty -
349 Miles

And so on.

- Also, being able to programme the unit from an interface on the PC (I know this is starting to sound a little like the DashHawk or DashDAQ) - that way you could setup your gauges/Xgauges with ease, then just connect to the car and away you go.

I have a SG in a Honda Ridgeline, and I'd like to see the actual values from the TPMS sending units. Currently, I get a dash symbol telling me that a tire is below the cutoff, but that's not very helpful, since I like to run 7-8 lbs above the cutoff.

Prior to the SG, I had (still have) a Davis CarChip. This little jewel recorded a whole bunch of data in memory, then allowed a download to an Excel file. I would leave it connected for the duration of a week-long trip, and then I could do a detailed analysis of the trip, time, mileage, stops, and total cost on my PC. If I want to do that for my next trip, I'll have to unplug the SG for the duration. It would be nice if the OBDII plug for the SG had a simple passthrough so I could plug in the CarChip at the same time. Not necessarily: obdIIcables.com (http://www.obd2cables.com/products/cables/obd-ii-cables/cable-j1962m-to-2-j1962f-y-cable-1ft.html)

And did anyone mention BlueTooth as a communications medium to the SGIII? I'd love to be freed of the cable connection so I could mount it, say, below the rear view mirror.

And did anyone mention BlueTooth as a communications medium to the SGIII? I'd love to be freed of the cable connection so I could mount it, say, below the rear view mirror.

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Hey Houckster, great idea!

I would like to see a "accelerometer" feature added. Would be great for tuning.

Have it display 6 or 8 items instead of 4. Much much better Fen Shui that way.

I'd like to see a model with 8 gauges that can be displayed. 4 just isn't enough sometimes.

A very important one for me: Get rid of the hybrid setting and make every fuel type a hybrid. Currently, there is no way to set up a diesel as a hybrid, so when the engine shuts off, so does the ScanGauge.

FE LED? Glows green when trip MPG is increasing, red when it's dropping.

Onboard memory to store historical data - USB Interface for setup/programming uploading/downloading recorded data.

I would like the ability to store multiple vehicle configurations without having to re-enter each vehicles parameters when switching back and forth between vehicles.

I would like an extra digit displayed for the fuel usage. You can get a more accurate number now by dividing miles by mpg but I'd like to see it in real time for the trip. That would make it easier to evaluate choices on how to take certain hills and roads that are relatively short. Plus having it for the gas fill ups would allow a bit more accuracy in the gas tank calibration.

I think a more intuitive XGauge interface would be great. Maybe the SG could 'scan' for sensors and let you know what your vehicle has installed.

Also I feel like we are in desperate need of an official database of XGauge code.

Another thought. I can go out and buy a full color GPS for my car for the same price as the ScanGauge. I would love to see the next ScanGauge look like an in-car GPS unit with customizable gauges and data logging (to a SD card). I would sure think that it would be possible to sell it for $150.

For example, this GPS unit (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000PCBVA6/ref=amb_link_7362682_2?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=left-1&pf_rd_r=1611A5T6G175VDZ9KR8Q&pf_rd_t=201&pf_rd_p=439258201&pf_rd_i=B000YFUQ7I) features a 4.3" touch screen (for $142.00). I would absolutely love to see ScanGauge 3 in a form factor like this.

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x284/oisiaa/gps.jpg

Agree with ALL the above!!

I think a more intuitive XGauge interface would be great. Maybe the SG could 'scan' for sensors and let you know what your vehicle has installed.

Also I feel like we are in desperate need of an official database of XGauge code.

Another thought. I can go out and buy a full color GPS for my car for the same price as the ScanGauge. I would love to see the next ScanGauge look like an in-car GPS unit with customizable gauges and data logging (to a SD card). I would sure think that it would be possible to sell it for $150.

For example, this GPS unit (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000PCBVA6/ref=amb_link_7362682_2?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=left-1&pf_rd_r=1611A5T6G175VDZ9KR8Q&pf_rd_t=201&pf_rd_p=439258201&pf_rd_i=B000YFUQ7I) features a 4.3" touch screen (for $142.00). I would absolutely love to see ScanGauge 3 in a form factor like this.

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x284/oisiaa/gps.jpg

Here is a product on Amazon that is basically what I was describing. Unfortunately it is way too expensive and based on the one review that it has, it sucks.

http://www.amazon.com/DashDAQ-Scantool-Navigation-Performance-Calculator/dp/B001MRZYLK/ref=pd_sbs_auto_4
It does look pretty cool, based on the advertising demo in this link:http://www.dashdaq.com/
Also, check out the parameters it claims to monitor!! http://www.dashdaq.com/specs/parameters.htm

http://i182.photobucket.com/albums/x284/oisiaa/51SNttoBtoL_SL500_AA280_.jpg

i don't own a scangauge right now, so i cannot comment on the functionality.

however on the esthetics, i use an iphone in my insight-II EX as a car kit phone, a gps and an mp3 player hooked to the usb port.

i would like to see that the scangauge software is also available on an iphone/ipod touch, so the user interface will also be touch sensitive.
And that 2 ways of connections from the ODB-II interface are possible: USB and even better wifi.

Other competitive gauge software like Rev and DashCommand have these possibilities.

Better diesel compatability. Also, the reset button is too close to the home button. I've pressed it once or twice and boy is it annoying!! Maybe if i had X gauge i wouldn't have this problem?

ollie

a 90 second running average

I have no idea if this has been mentioned yet, so I apologize if it has.

I would like to see an oil life monitor that monitors temperatures and load and determines how hard you're driving the car, and factors that into the life calculations (similar to what OEM OLM's do). At the very minimum, a programmable oil change reminder that will trigger a reminder at a preset mileage.

i don't know if it was mentioned already, but i'd like the readouts to be more "analog". i'd imagine that it would be more convenient to see impg, tps, and whatnot as analog round-sweep or bar graphs (of course reproduced on lcd) than numbers. that way, i can keep track of the data off the corner of my eye without giving it additional thought, rather than having to look at it and process whether that number is "high" or "low" for that particular data.

it's like the engine coolant gauge- i'd rather have an analog round or bar gauge, instead of a digital readout saying "185 degrees".

they can even keep the same form factor and display. although the current resolution of the display is sufficient for bar graphs, lcd panels get cheaper and better every now and then. since there aren't any additional hardware requirements (i assume), most of it would be software changes (another assumption). either a long string of if/then statements or lines that convert numerical values to "enabled" dot arrays on the lcd panel.

Just ordered my new SG to replace my stolen SG-1.

Let it be known. I would pay more for data logging. And I hope our mentor stays on Ron's ass concerning this little feature.

It would not surprise me if data logging is offered within two weeks. When I and others here purchased our SG-1's,,, the 11's came out withing 10 day's.

I would like to thank Wayne for his efforts in getting this fine tool in people's hands,,, including mine!!!!!!!

psy

Does anyone know the status of Scanguage III? Is it in the works? Be released soon?

Does anyone know the status of Scanguage III? Is it in the works? Be released soon?
I think it was just name the OP gave to this wish list thread.

Just ordered my new SG to replace my stolen SG-1.

Let it be known. I would pay more for data logging. And I hope our mentor stays on Ron's ass concerning this little feature.

It would not surprise me if data logging is offered within two weeks. When I and others here purchased our SG-1's,,, the 11's came out withing 10 day's.

I would like to thank Wayne for his efforts in getting this fine tool in people's hands,,, including mine!!!!!!!

psyHoly cow! Someone stole your SG-1? My wife always tells me to "put your gauge in the glove box" and I always retort that gas prices are nearly high enough for a thief to break into my car to save gas. Guess I've been wrong.

OK... in Honor of those poor gauges that have been stolen, my feature request.

OK... so the SGII knows when it gets disconnected. So use that knowledge to allow a user to "lock" their gauge. If the gauge is "locked" then whenever it's disconnected the display will only display "T H I E F" until the correct password is entered. Passwords are stored as pressing the 5 buttons in a specific order.

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Dan, you must have missed my post about my SGII being stolen a few weeks ago.

How about serial numbers for those that get stolen.

Any knowlede of SGII being in the works???

To the best of my knowledge this is just a wish list. Don't know if they are coming out with a III yet though.

I, too, would like to see analog.

Dan, you must have missed my post about my SGII being stolen a few weeks ago.Yikes... I didHow about serial numbers for those that get stolen.Or a password for when it gets disconnected.

Honestly I'd just like to see some of the bugs fixed:
1) GPH bug - Registers GPH 0.01 when engine is off, and throws off hybrid MPGs
2) 14bit XGauge bug - Some CAN stuff is 14 bytes, not 16, but SG only speaks 8bit and 16bit.
3) Unisigned XGauge - All XGauges are signed (high bit means neg). Some can bus data is unsigned. It would be nice to have and unsigned XGauge.

Here's a variation of a feature request.

Analog, and "eco" indicator.

The gauge is capable of displaying it's back light in 64 different colors. Just make the display RED if your driving poorly and Green when you do well. Purple and blue in the middle or something.

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How about serial numbers for those that get stolen.To set up a serial number do the following:


Go into CMDS
Edit Memory 0
Type in any hex number you want
Save it.
This will stick in Memory 0 forever (even factory resets). So just check Memory 0 for your signature, and you are set (unless the thief reads this post and deletes it).

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I hadn't thought of that. When I get either my old one back or a new one I will do that. Too bad I can't afford to buy a new one any time soon. I will be taking donations though.:D