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This thread is for people to post picutures of their FCD showing 120mpg over x number of miles. Lets see who can go the furthest. As far as I know no one in any production car has been able to pull off 120mpg for a tank so it looks like that will be the goal.

I've never seen 120 even on the long downhill to my house.

I'd compare this to the Ironman Triathlon (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ironman_Triathlon) challenge, except 120mpg is probably best achieved in an aluminum Insight. :D

What do you think of opening this to any vehicle that gets double their EPA? (120mpg is about 200% of the Insight's EPA estimate)

There are several 120+ and at least one 130+ mpg tank listed in the Mileage Logs. So the goal is too low. How about 140 or 150?

I have seen 120+ segments on flat roads in my car, and with a tailwind it is actually common as long as you pay attention. But a 120 tank for me is completely out of reach, too hilly, too much traffic and too little skill.

Hi Tom:

___That is a tough challenge. I know of a route where I can sustain an Insight at 125 - 130 mpg’s round trip but to burn off a 14 gallon tank might take about 80 hours! The Prius II might be able to do it but again, it would take about 70 hours to finish off a tank. We have both seen 120 in your HCH-I for a brief period in time but I do not believe that was sustainable? I am not sure about the HCH-II just yet but Tarabell has some very interesting data that may make it possible in one of those as well?

___Either way, you are talking about the top Hybrid’s in the game driving in a very unorthodox manner?

___Good Luck

___Wayne

That is a great challenge! It certainly is attainable for Wayne and maybe a few others in an Insight under the proper conditions. For any other car under "normal" (non-marathon) conditions I think the goal may be out of reach. The second best Prius tank I have seen posted is by Dan K at 86 or 87 MPG over 1000 miles or so. A lot of Prius drivers don't have a readout that will show anything higher than 99.9, which is only a problem for very serious hypermilers. You might want to set different goals for different cars and list the best known tanks to date under "marathon" and "normal" conditions for various cars. For the Prius I think the "normal" goal that people are shooting for is 90 MPG for a tank of over 1000 miles. I imagine Dan and maybe Wayne's friend Carl could pull this off or Dan may choose to do this in the del Sol because he likes a real challenge ;).

I'm not talking about a tank or sustainable 120. Just as far as someone can go. I was thinking reset the trip odo while already at speed and coasting down or whatever. So us mere mortals have a chance of seeing this. My greatest distance so far is about a mile.

As far as prius not showing higher than 99.9 thats why I put this in the honda forum ;) Maybe someone could start a 99.9 mpg thread in the toyota forum ;)

Last Tuesday when I filled up after my 102.2 personal best tank I got home with 121.2 after 7.7 miles. I took a pix of the 102.2 but not the 121.2. A short segment record of 120 for X miles would be fun and low stress. Go to a mountian top and coast down. How hard is that? But 120 for a whole tank is a completly different contest. Honda says the Insight holds 10.4 gallons, we should use that as the standard even though we all know you can stuff a whole bunch more in there. 120x10.4=1248. I went 1280.4 miles on my record tank and it took me 41 days to use up the whole tank on my regular daily commute. I think 120 is doable but like Excel said it would be in a very unorthodox manner. Excel where is your special route? Louis

Well it's possible ... now if I could only remote-control the traffic signals? :D

http://www.cleanmpg.com/photos/data/500/medium/150.JPG

Hey, No fair! The HCH II can show 150mpg :(

Here is a photo I took 12-21-05 @ 7:00p.m. on my commute home from work.

http://www.cleanmpg.com/photos/showphoto.php/photo/811/limit/recent/date/24%20June%202006%2022:41:03

O.K. Now I have to confess. The photo of my fcd is a true unaltered photo, butttttt-------
My fcd stuck at 150 for most of my trip. It has stuck a few times when I restarted it at less than 10 mph by letting the clutch out in gear after killing the engine coasting down a long hill. My actual "best" has been 91.4 mpg @ 95.1 round trip commute.

I had 80 mpg on the FCD in the HAH yesterday. Downhill section for about four miles... ;)

c'mon guys, i had 80.2 for 7 miles home after a fill :D

c'mon guys, i had 80.2 for 7 miles home after a fill :D

Yeah, but Laurie your an accomplished FE driver. :p

Terry

Well, I know one place where I can get the ScanGauge to read 99999 for about 5 miles straight, but I have a feeling someone's going to cry foul when I reset the aFCD on the fly ;)

Until someone finds a 6 mile stretch.

Yeah, but Laurie your an accomplished FE driver. :p

Terry

yeah, but don't hold that against me LOL

ok, i volunteer to test it if cleanmpg will pay my costs to colorado. i will reset my gauge at the top of i-70 outside of denver and then head down the west side of the divide until i get to ...oh shoot, what is the name of that canyon with the beautiful drive through it, i am drawing a blank....anyhow, until i get there. by the time i stop coasting, i should have the 120 pegged :)

i know it would be easy going east to denver, but that stretch of road scares the heck out of me. everytime i see a runaway truck ramp i can picture one coming barreling down behind me!

That is a great challenge! It certainly is attainable for Wayne and maybe a few others in an Insight under the proper conditions. For any other car under "normal" (non-marathon) conditions I think the goal may be out of reach. The second best Prius tank I have seen posted is by Dan K at 86 or 87 MPG over 1000 miles or so. A lot of Prius drivers don't have a readout that will show anything higher than 99.9, which is only a problem for very serious hypermilers. You might want to set different goals for different cars and list the best known tanks to date under "marathon" and "normal" conditions for various cars. For the Prius I think the "normal" goal that people are shooting for is 90 MPG for a tank of over 1000 miles. I imagine Dan and maybe Wayne's friend Carl could pull this off or Dan may choose to do this in the del Sol because he likes a real challenge ;).

Hopefully at Hybridfest during the FE challenge I will be ale to pop off a 99.9. The Del Sol tops out at about 83 so 120 is out of the question unless the round trip is downhill and has a tailwind both ways.:D

I had 80 mpg on the FCD in the HAH yesterday. Downhill section for about four miles... ;)

Yeah- no fair for us HAH guys- the display pegs at 80!

as i said in another thread, just let me at an insight for a week.....just a week......if i can break 70 on my way home from a fillup with my civic......gimme an insight :):):)

Laurie,

I have no doubt you could do 70mpg in an Insight. I'd bet you would do what I've been pining for - a 100mpg run.

Hi Laurie:

___The HCH-I can be coaxed into that magical 100 + mpg segment and even a tank if you have enough time. I think you know how to do it … the next question is do you really want to waste the time to do it?

___The Insight 5-speed would get you there a lot quicker is all ;)

___Good Luck

___Wayne

Hi Laurie:

___The HCH-I can be coaxed into that magical 100 + mpg segment and even a tank if you have enough time. I think you know how to do it … the next question is do you really want to waste the time to do it?

___The Insight 5-speed would get you there a lot quicker is all ;)

___Good Luck

___Wayne

that's why i was whining for an insight :)

i don't know about the HCH, however....except for that brief stretch from the gas station to home, i never see figures like that.....:confused:

Hi Laurie:

___One acronym is all you need know … “P&G” and you will be there before you know it :D

___Tom and I have a thread around here about the HCH-I at > 100 mpg. Actively search it out and begin to destroy the so called EPA estimates ;)

___Good Luck

___Wayne

Hi Laurie:

___One acronym is all you need know … “P&G” and you will be there before you know it :D

___Tom and I have a thread around here about the HCH-I at > 100 mpg. Actively search it out and begin to destroy the so called EPA estimates ;)

___Good Luck

___Wayne

gotta find that one. i already do pulse and glide, maybe have to take it to more of an extreme.....i'll just call home when i leave work and tell hubby i should be home about midnight, but i will have great FE when i get there :D

Hi Laurie:

gotta find that one. i already do pulse and glide, maybe have to take it to more of an extreme.....i'll just call home when i leave work and tell hubby i should be home about midnight, but i will have great FE when i get there :D
:D :D :D

___Good Luck

___Wayne

I just filled up today. First time since 6/20/6. I averaged 102.4 for 1195.1 miles, that makes 3 personal best tanks in a row. With all the recent talk about 120 and 150 MPG, after leaving the station I wanted to see how high I could get it. After driving about 10 miles through town I came to a back road that I could extreme hypermile on and maxed it out at 150, then lost it at 21.5 miles. I turned around at that point and started for home and got it back up to 150 and kept it until 30.2 miles. I took a pix with my phone and went home. I got home with 137.2 for 41.4 miles. I'm not a big fan of the short segment because as you can see after only 11 miles of "more normal" hypermile driving I had lost 13 MPG. It was fun anyway just to see what I could do. Now the hard part is, how do I get the pix out of my phone and onto this thread? Louis

send them to your e-mail.

Hi Sno779:

___Welcome to the 150 mpg + club :D

___I would not have believed it was possible just 3 weeks ago and here we are today with you being the third individual to achieve it in as many weeks. I really tried to get the IC guys onboard and absolutely nobody would take me up on it. This was over a year ago if you can believe that! I was Insightless at the time of course but I did have a chance to play with Bradlee’s for a few minutes the day before we left for the 2006 Tour Del Sol and discovered a few more of the Insight’s secrets. Now it is like old hat after Bill's and then again in Chuck’s 2 Sunday’s ago … This makes my lmpg look sick knowing what we know today :(

___Good Luck and enjoy the extreme FE!

___Wayne

I did my normal commute this morning and was able to hang onto the 120+ all the way into work. I got there with 122.6 and 69.8 miles. I left work at rush hour and against a 25kt headwind. I held onto 120 MPG until 72.8 miles. It was down to 108.1 by the time I got home. I lost 29.1 MPG today. I was so bummed out when I got home I took my frustrations out on the lawn by mowing it. By the way, it takes more gas to mow 3/4 acre then it does to drive an Insight 60 miles.....Louis

By the way, it takes more gas to mow 3/4 acre then it does to drive an Insight 60 miles.....Louis

...And depending on the mower, probably produces as much unburned hydrocarbons and other junk an Insight produces in several thousand miles of driving. (Except maybe NOx on a 5MT that spends a lot of time in lean burn.)

Here's one from not too long ago this spring, when I got a nasty south wind behind me coming home.


http://www.cleanmpg.com/photos/data/504/06_10_06RETURN.JPG
06/10/06 home bound commute with afterburners:D .

Gee that's fun.
Randall

http://static.flickr.com/10/13485619_b8e30da010.jpg

Close, but "no cigar". :(
This was a 15.2 mile round trip on a very warm day in May 2005, intended to demonstrate the effectiveness of the MIMA_L prototype.
No FAS, but a 20% decrease in the iSoC, which means that the battery pack gave more than it received.

http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f232/STL2/150mpg8-05.jpg
On the evening of Aug 5, 2006, did some P&G in a business park area. Went up and down a half-mile streach, but the U-turn robbed momemtium. At one time the metric display indicated 1.4 l/100km - over 156mpg, but could not sustain it. Was afraid Police or Security was going to pull me over about my Sat night driving. :D

For a long distance, I'll be happy just to get my 1st 100mpg trip.

At HybridFest 2006, Wayne was pegged at 150mpg nearly all of the 20-mile run. I really wish I'd thought to get the metric readout, but my guess is it was 1.4 to 1.3 l/100 km = 157 to 170mpg

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Liters per 100/km to MPG

1.5 is 156.81mpg or better
1.4 is 168.0149mpg or better
1.3 is 180.94mpg or better
1.2 is 196.017mpg or better
1.1 is 213.84mpg or better

I know this is an old thread but I think this still fits. Yesterday as I drove to Tucson to take my filght physical I was fighting 20-30 kt headwinds and lost 1.7 mpg for the trip. Last Saturday my wife and I drove the same route and gained .7 mpg. Yesterday when I started home the wind had calmed down to less then 10 kts but was still pretty much a direct tailwind. The route I take is the same one I used to train for the Insight Marathon. Just before I got to the training grounds I began a casual P&G to try and regain back the mileage I had lost on the way down. After a short time I realized how good I was doing so got serious about it and started working it as hard as I could. I reset my trip meter at the half way point of my training grounds and worked it well past the end. I stopped the P&G at 50K (31 miles) because I was now on a more heavily traveled back road and was an interuption to normal traffic. At the end of the 50K the FCD was showing 0.9 L/100K. That is 261.4 MPG for 31 miles. I refresh the FCD after each pulse and at the end of each glide to see where it is at and it showed .9 for the last several P&Gs so I feel it was a strong .9 and not close to .8 or 1.0. I will admit that this is the best portion of my route with a slight lowering of elevation, no traffic to worry about, tailbreeze, 87*, and skills learned at the Insight marathon. They all came together to produce a very high MPG for a short distance. I know it was only one way,but still. The Insight marathon is still the world record holder at 164 MPG over 2254 miles. That is giong to be hard to beat.....Louis

:bananajump: Way to go Louis. :bananajump:


:woot: You are hereby awarded an attaboy :woot:



Randall

Really old thread but here's my contribution:
http://www.cleanmpg.com/photos/data/500/120mpg.jpg
That's from the gas station to home, slight tail wind, 80's, going no faster than 30MPH.

Hi Mr. Pancake:

I really enjoy these oldies but goodies and so far, your HCH-I takes the cake :) I wish I owned one today in fact!

Good Luck

Wayne

This thread reminds me of an experiment I did a couple of years ago coming down the mountains back to the front range. Here are the pictures from that expermiment since this thread came back from the dead.

http://gallery.mtbr.com/data/mtbr/500/goodmpg1.jpg

That picture was taken after resetting Trip B at altitude before driving back into town. But that wasn't really 150mph based on the metric calculation--more like 2028.6mpg if my translation is correct.

http://gallery.mtbr.com/data/mtbr/500/goodmpg1km-h.jpg

In fact, the 150mpg lasted even longer before it slowly started to decline.

http://gallery.mtbr.com/data/mtbr/500/end150mpg.jpg

When I pulled into the driveway, I had this on the FCD:


http://gallery.mtbr.com/data/mtbr/500/end2.jpg


Of course, I didn't get that kind of mileage starting from my house. I had to drive up to Woodland Park which was where I reset, so here is the mileage before resetting.

http://gallery.mtbr.com/data/mtbr/500/before3.jpg



All together, the 46.7mpg and the 75.3mpg netted me 57mpg for the 82.4mi--just another good drive in the mountains for the HCHII!