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Chuck
03-23-2008, 09:07 PM
Gas costs are up. So is Third World consumer demand. The result: a new breed of cars that are cooler, cheaper and incredibly small. Goodbye, Hummer. (http://www.newsweek.com/id/123068)

http://www.cleanmpg.com/photos/data/501/simpsons2.jpgKeith Naughton - Newsweek - Mar 24, 2008

Getting Americans into smaller cars seemed to require an Act of Congress or other paramentary procedure (see above :D ) -- Ed.

When gas prices began to shoot up last summer, Millie Richardson (http://www.newsweek.com/related.aspx?subject=Millie+Richardson) became fed up with her minivan. So the Lawrenceville, N.J., mom traded in her Dodge Caravan for a $17,000 Nissan Versa, a subcompact that gets more than 30 miles per gallon. Richardson, 55, likes spending less at the pump, but she's most excited about how roomy her little car is. "My son is 6-foot-6, and he drove it," she marvels. "So it's small, but it's big—does that make sense?" What's even more appealing to Richardson, though, is a $2,500 car she's heard about that was introduced in India (http://www.newsweek.com/related.aspx?subject=India) last month: the Tata Nano. Though there are no plans yet to bring it to America, Richardson is ready. "Oh, boy, would I ever love to drive one," she says. "I would look at it as a disposable car. It would be so cheap, you could always afford a new one."

Around the automotive world, small is the new big. Driven by earning power in emerging markets, along with rising gas prices and global-warming concerns in developed countries, small-car sales are soaring. By 2012, forecasters expect consumers to buy a record 38 million small cars annually, up 65 percent from a decade earlier. Even in the United States, land of the large, sales of small cars are expected to grow 25 percent by 2012 to a record 3.4 million while SUVs and pickup trucks continue to tank. Daimler had 30,000 orders in hand even before it launched its nine-foot-long Smart Fortwo model in the United States in January. "This is not a fad," says Smart USA president Dave Schembri. "It's a trend."
… http://www.newsweek.com/id/123068

xcel
03-23-2008, 11:39 PM
Hi Chuck:

___I think the world is making to much of the Tata myself as the same people who can afford that vehicle are not going to be able to afford the gas to fuel it soon enough if not already. I should look up its specs again to make sure but I am thinking 35 mpg and over 10,000 miles per year, almost 1/3 of the purchase price is dispensed for fuel alone. That number is not getting smaller either. At what point does someone who can barely afford a $3,000 car say $2,000 or more in fuel per year just is not worth it?

___Let me put it another way. For a lower income US citizen who is having a tough time getting into a $9,000 Aveo, what if the cost to fuel it was $3,000 per year. How about a middle income citizen in a Camry at $23K and it had a fuel bill of $7K per year? Of course neither the Aveo or Camry have those kinds of fuel bills (I hope :rolleyes:) but I am making a point about fuel costs and affordability of the fuel vs. the affordability of the car itself?

___I could be completely wrong about this given the publicity the Tata Motors Nano has achieved but I believe fuel costs will outrun the affordability of the third world car in very short order.

___Good Luck

___Wayne

SpartyBrutus
03-24-2008, 07:09 AM
Xcel - reminds me of the razor or inkjet cartridge business model - "give away" the machine (holder, inkjet, car) and charge for the refills (razors, ink, gas).

It does seem like most Americans purchase vehicles for their potential wants (9 person capacity, tow a boat I dont own yet) versus their probable needs (4 person capacity).

Shiba3420
03-24-2008, 07:24 AM
Sadly I had to be the one negative vote so far. I, personally would consider such a vehicle, but my wife won't primarily due to safety concerns...no need to quote the statistics to me on this one, I know them. Sometime emotion overrides logic.

Do wonder if subcompacts will actually be as effective as larger vehicles as electrics cars....sure they are lighter and more aerodynamic, but larger vehicles like Millie's Minivan seem a perfect choice for a full time electric or PHEV. It was full size and mini vans that were the original testbeds for modern electric vehicles, so you would think there would still be a place for them. Cheaper (but larger/heavier) batteries could easily be carried in these types of vehicles, and that extra weight on the bottom should make them less top-heavy. Oh well.

southerncannuck
03-24-2008, 07:49 AM
Sadly I had to be the one negative vote so far. I, personally would consider such a vehicle, but my wife won't primarily due to safety concerns...no need to quote the statistics to me on this one, I know them. Sometime emotion overrides logic.

Do wonder if subcompacts will actually be as effective as larger vehicles as electrics cars....sure they are lighter and more aerodynamic, but larger vehicles like Millie's Minivan seem a perfect choice for a full time electric or PHEV. It was full size and mini vans that were the original testbeds for modern electric vehicles, so you would think there would still be a place for them. Cheaper (but larger/heavier) batteries could easily be carried in these types of vehicles, and that extra weight on the bottom should make them less top-heavy. Oh well.
I won't quote stats, but I will tell you that I drive mainly on the highway and I see a rolled over SUV with severe injuries a lot. I rarely see a sedan with the lifeline helicopter next to it. In the city SUVs have an advantage.



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