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xcel
03-02-2008, 11:12 AM
Are Hybrids coming of Age? (http://www.edmontonsun.com/News/Columnists/Hicks_Graham/2008/02/28/4881762-sun.html)

http://www.cleanmpg.com/photos/data/501/2008_Toyota_Camry_Hybrid_Taxi.jpgGraham Hicks - Edmonton Sun - Feb. 28, 2008

2008 Toyota Camry Hybrid Taxi – 33/34 City/Highway on the 08 EPA.

Why would you not consider a Hybrid Camry or Prius as a Taxi is the real question? -- Ed.

With this weekend's Edmonton Motor Show at the AgriCom starting today, no fewer than eight auto makers will have new hybrid (gas/electric powered) models.

There's skepticism about hybrids - added cost versus disputed gas savings, the cost of future battery replacement ... tell that to our local cabbies.

Co-op and Airport drivers have had Toyota Camry hybrids for over a year, with 23 currently on the road.
They love 'em.

"I used to have a Grand Marquis," reports Co-op driver Jasbir Mutti. "My Camry Hybrid gets double the mileage. I'm saving $25 to $30 a day in fuel costs."

It doesn't stop there.

Jasbir used to replace his brake pads every three months, or 40,000 kilometres, at a cost of $300.

On the Camry Hybrid, it's every 300,000 kilometres, due to less wear and tear on brakes.

The hybrid has no alternator, usually changed on cabs once a year for $300.

Oil changes are every 8,000 kilometres instead of 5,000 - the gas engine doesn't idle.

"The Grand Marquis cost me $300 a month in repairs and maintenance. The Camry Hybrid is less than $100," says Jasbir. "And that's in addition to the gas savings."

What about the batteries?

Toyota has an eight-year or 160,000-kilometre warranty on all hybrid-related components, including the battery. It's supposed to last for 500,000 kilometres or more.

"A new battery today would cost about $3,000," says Jasbir.

"But no drivers here or in Vancouver have yet to replace the battery" … http://www.edmontonsun.com/News/Columnists/Hicks_Graham/2008/02/28/4881762-sun.html

Indigo
03-02-2008, 05:19 PM
Every new tehnology has its period of infany. Just remember how in 1990, a 10 MHz computer with a 20 Mb hard drive cost $2,500. Today, cell phones have much greater speed and storage cost less than a tenth of that price. We believe that hybrid technology is firmly out of infancy. It's not at maturity yet either, but definately out of infancy. Hybrids work, hybrids are reliable, and hybrids are efficient. Basically, they just need to become a little more affordable.

Harold
03-03-2008, 10:16 AM
I don't believe you can get a better road test than what a taxi driver gives a car, along with the type of travel , IE all city driven? Our kids may be harder on our autos! Cheers,H

pdk
03-03-2008, 11:22 AM
One time when I was in a cab last year, my then-girlfriend asked "I wonder how much money a cab would save if it went hybrid?" And the driver responded, "not much, since the batteries die after 50K miles." I tried to inform him, politely, that no, that wasn't the case, but with me being slightly inebriated and therefore less eloquent than usual, and the driver simply saying "that's just what I was told", I figured it was a lost cause.

There's still a fair amount of misinformation going around...*sigh*.

xcel
03-03-2008, 11:46 AM
Hi Pdk:

___I heard a lot of that at the Milwaukee Autoshow yesterday too … With the NY City mandates heading the cabbies way, they are going to find out just as the Vancouver cabbies did. Toyota Hybrids just keep going and going and going :D

___Good Luck

___Wayne



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