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Wouldn’t it be refreshing if our candidates could have at least one really meaningful discussion about energy? (http://www.energybulletin.net/39371.html)

http://www.cleanmpg.com/photos/data/501/oil_fires.jpgRonald R. Cooke - Energy Bulletin - Jan 21, 2008

Not much thought has been given as to how these two monsters will work together - Ed

Global warming advocates have made a number of false assumptions in their zeal to do something – anything – about global warming. This has encouraged multiple pop-culture proposals that sound wonderful, but are – in fact - actually increasing the damage we humans are doing to our EcoSystem.

Media discussion of global warming seldom makes any connection between the ecology of temperature change and pending fuel shortages. Our political leaders appear to be intellectually incapable of discussing fossil fuel depletion and global warming in the same conversation. Although both Hillary Clinton ( a Democrat) and Mitt Romney (a Republican) both know about the consequences of fossil fuel depletion, critical questions about depletion are – for the most part – taboo in this election cycle.

All this denial raises a critical question. How can we expect our political establishment to make intelligent decisions about the price, availability and use of our energy resources if they refuse to acknowledge half the data?...http://www.energybulletin.net/39371.html

Conclusion

The availability, security and cost of energy, along with the impact of energy consumption on our EcoSystem, are subjects of the highest priority for our political establishment. They belong – together – center stage in this year’s election cycle. We should demand our candidates engage in a frank and intellectually honest discussion of energy. How we chose to utilize, stretch out, and allocate our remaining resources is a critical element of America’s future – and the welfare of all nations.

We're doing it by hypermiling fuel efficient vehicles.

I'm disappointed in the masses who just don't get it. They are like lemmings headed for the cliff.

Harry

The article says,

"The availability, security and cost of energy, along with the impact of energy consumption on our EcoSystem, are subjects of the highest priority for our political establishment. They belong – together – center stage in this year’s election cycle"

I agree wholeheartedly. BUT FIRST we must clean up Washington. Our "distinctly native criminal class" (as Samuel Clemens refered to them), those honorable congressmen, president, et all, have got to be stopped in their "catering for cash" to special interest groups that are making them rich at the worlds expense.

Nothing of any cnnsequence that is good can come about in energy consumption, medical health care, or anything else for that mater, until morality is somehow injected into them.

Bob.

I'm disappointed in the masses who just don't get it. They are like lemmings headed for the cliff.

Please don't knock lemmings like that. Their mass death is part of a group stratagy that usually ensures that enough of them will continue to exist to create the next generation. For humans, its not a stratagy, its a bad choice.:o

Hi Jonathan:

___You are too funny :D

___Good Luck

___Wayne

Please don't knock lemmings like that. Their mass death is part of a group stratagy that usually ensures that enough of them will continue to exist to create the next generation. For humans, its not a stratagy, its a bad choice.:o

The continued collective stupidity of the human race makes me wonder how the heck we ever became the apex predator of this ecosystem.

A couple things on this.

The lemming comment is a myth first of all.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lemmings

Hypermiling fuel efficient cars is helping, but in relative terms could be somewhat hypocritical. A lot of us (of course not all) could ride their bike to work or for short errands (www.2milechallenge.com). A lot of us choose to live in the suburbs because of "crime" and other things like that in the city. This causes us to "have" to drive to work, to the grocery store, etc. Hypermiling a fuel efficient car may not be enough. True lifestyle changes need to be made.

I love coming to this site and reading the news and progress. I even hypermiled for a couple months, but realized most of my driving could be eliminated by riding my bike, which is a lot better (for me and the environment) than any MPG that you can throw out there.

I would suggest if you have the chance to see A Crude Awakening (netflix has it) it shows places that have been pumping oil and have ran dry.

It's easy to point fingers at everyone driving fast, and letting their cars idle, but you might want to re-evaluate your everyday decisions, as I'm sure there are better decisions you could be making everyday.

Question everything, assume nothing.

It's easy to point fingers at everyone driving fast, and letting their cars idle, but you might want to re-evaluate your everyday decisions, as I'm sure there are better decisions you could be making everyday.:confused:

It's speeding and ideling bad - period?

Better driving is not the silver bullet, but definitely part of the solution.