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xcel
10-31-2007, 10:41 PM
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Prices

Pure - $11,590

Option|Price ($USD)
A/C w/ Auto temp control|$600
Metallic Paint (R, B, S)|$225
Silver colored Tridion cell|$175
Alarm|$160
Panorama roof – Sun shade incl.|$350
Power Steering|$450
Heated Seats|$220
Radio - AM/FM/CD|$350
Premium radio - AM/FM/6CD/MP3|$495

Passion - $13,590

Option|Price ($USD)
Metallic Paint (R, B, S)|$225
Silver colored Tridion cell|$175
Alarm|$160
Power Steering|$450
Heated Seats|$220
Fog Lamps|$110
Additional instruments – Analog Clock and Tach|$120
Premium radio - AM/FM/6CD/MP3|$150

Option packages:
Premium Sound - $350 - Includes Premium Radio w/ 4 speakers and Sub.
Comfort Package - $850 - Includes Power Steering, Leather Seats, Heated Seats, Rain and Light Sensor and Auto-off headlights w/ exit delay.

Cabriolet - $16,590

Option|Price ($USD)
Metallic Paint (R, B, S)|$225
Silver colored Tridion cell|$175
Alarm|$160
Power Steering|$450
Heated Seats|$220
Fog Lamps|$110
Additional instruments – Analog Clock and Tach|$120

Option packages:
Comfort Package - $850 - Includes Power Steering, Leather Seats, Heated Seats, Rain and Light Sensor and Auto-off headlights w/ exit delay.

Specifications

Engineering:

Engine Type: In-Line 3-Cylinder
Engine Block/Cylinder Head: Aluminum-Alloy
Displacement (l): 1.0
Horsepower @ rpm (SAE net, Rev 8/04): 70 HP @ 5,800 rpm
Torque (lb.-ft. @ rpm): 68 lb.-ft. @ 4,500 rpm
Redline (rpm): TBD
Bore and Stroke (in): 2.83 x 3.22
Compression Ratio: 10.0:1
Valvetrain: 4-valve per cyl. - SOHC
Electronic Multi-Point Fuel Injection
Rear-wheel Drive
CARB Emissions Rating: ULEV-2
Federal Emissions: Tier II/Bin5
Direct Ignition System with Immobilizer

Transmissions:

Gear Ratios

5-Speed Automated Manual Transmission

1st: 3.308 2nd: 1.913 3rd: 1.258 4th: 0.943 5th: 0.707 Final Drive: 4.529
Reverse: 3.231

Body/Suspension/Chassis:

Unit-Body Construction
MacPherson Strut Front Suspension
DeDion axle Rear Suspension
Stabilizer Bar (mm., front): TBD mm/none
Rack-and-Pinion Steering
Turning Diameter, Curb-to-Curb (ft.): 28.7
Power-Assisted Ventilated Front Disc/Solid Rear Disc Brakes (in.): 11/8
Wheels: All-Season Tires: 155/60 R15 Front/175/55 R15 Rear

http://www.cleanmpg.com/photos/data/549/SMART_Fortwo_Interior.jpg

Interior Measurements:

Headroom (in.): 39.7
Legroom (in.): 41.2
Shoulder Room (in.): 48
Hiproom (in.): 45.4
Cargo Volume (cu. ft.): 12.0
Passenger Volume (cu. ft.): 45.4
Seating Capacity: 2

Exterior Measurements:

Wheelbase (in.): 73.5
Length (in.): 106.1
Height (in.): 60.71
Width (in.): 61.38
Track (in., front/rear): 50.51/54.53
Coefficient of Drag: 0.34
Curb Weight (lbs.): 1,808

08 EPA Mileage Estimates/Capacities:

5-Speed Automatic Manual (City/Highway): 34/40
Crankcase (qt.): 3.5 incl. oil filter
Coolant System (qt.): 4.5.
Fuel (gal.): 10 gal. – 8.7 gal. w/ 1.3 gal. in reserve
Required Fuel: Premium Unleaded recommended

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BailOut
10-31-2007, 11:09 PM
I'm surprised that with a 3-cylinder, 1.0L engine its emissions are ULEV-2 instead of at least SULEV-2. The FE rating is attractive, though.

I wonder if I could fit a snowboard in it...

xcel
10-31-2007, 11:21 PM
Hi Brian:

___For the SMART's Mitsubishi ICE to nail SULEV-2, it would need a more efficient and expensive CAT and probably a MAF with yet more controls and expense. I asked although most had no idea what I was talking about. The engineers did and came back with the above. Remember a ULEV rated automobile beats the Yaris, ties the Corolla, beats the Fit and non-hybrid Civic if that helps.

___As for a Snowboard, you bet it would with the passenger seat folded forward ;)

___Good Luck

___Wayne

BailOut
10-31-2007, 11:48 PM
Remember a ULEV rated automobile beats the Yaris, ties the Corolla, beats the Fit and non-hybrid Civic if that helps.

Umm... the Yaris is ULEV-2 while carrying a 1.5L i4. This is why I thought the 1.0L i3 in the Smart should be SULEV-2.

xcel
11-01-2007, 01:00 AM
Hi Brian:

___Whoops, the 1.5 in the Yaris matches the SMART and the Corolla. The size of the motor doesn’t matter much in terms of CARB ratings but the CAT, MAF controlling the intake charge and combustion process makes all the difference. Just like Toyota made the Yaris a ULEV while the same block in the Prius-II received the SULEV-2 PZEV treatment, SMART went for the more reasonable cost ULEV treatment as well.

___Good Luck

___Wayne

PaleMelanesian
11-01-2007, 09:23 AM
Cargo Volume (cu. ft.): 12.0

My civic, for comparison:
Luggage Capacity: 11.9 cu. ft.

That's ignoring the back seat, and its fold-down pass-through option, though. I can carry 9-ft lumber if I want. Seriously, though, we have an Odyssey. It'll handle the lumber and the family hauling, this would easily handle me and a laptop and brown-bag lunch. :D

Right Lane Cruiser
11-01-2007, 09:31 AM
...this would easily handle me and a laptop and brown-bag lunch. :D

That's what I'm thinking!!! I'd love to give this thing a workout on my normal routes.

MetroMPG
11-01-2007, 12:21 PM
Wayne, did Daimler provide the spec for coefficient of drag?

Kermit
11-01-2007, 12:25 PM
Is the Inline 3 perpindicular with the rear axle? There doesn't look like much room for it to be. That's interesting they made it a RWD vehicle. Atleast maintaining it should be easier (maybe?).

BailOut
11-01-2007, 01:06 PM
Whoa... I just noticed it uses a different tire sizes in the front and rear. This will make it impossible to do a proper tire rotation.

xcel
11-01-2007, 01:52 PM
Hi Darin:

___I have requests in for the tire model (they are Continental’s) but I do not know the model and max sidewall, the Cd and an LCA. I asked the question about the LCA during the theater Q&A and the lead engineer out of Germany said he has that info? Penske thought I was asking about CO2 from tank to wheel and then gave the output for the CDI in Germany :rolleyes: Apparently, SMART is now flooded with requests for the LCA document ;) I do not know when SMART will send back a reply as I asked for those via Phone yesterday and received a call back this morning with only the Brand of tire.

___Kermit, the ICE is mounted just in front of and parallel to the rear axle while the ICE is angled to the rear over the axle. It took me a while digging around MB European media site but I found a pic that best describes what I saw at the preview. I hope the following helps as I could not find a cleaner pic and I did not think to take one myself.

http://www.cleanmpg.com/photos/data/523/Engine_Bay_Cutaway.jpg

___Brian, the SMART was designed that way purposely. Here was the explanation. With the rear engine design, the weight over the larger tire set allows better overall traction into marginal conditions. The fronts however were spec’ed to be thinner which allows for less traction loss by penetrating into snow and ice deeper for improved steering. As for rotation, I will not do it given the scrub factor messing with FE at each and every swap.

___Good Luck

___Wayne

saronian
11-28-2007, 05:16 PM
I'm finding some really good information on the new smart fortwo on this forum. Thought I would add some tire info.

Here's what's written on the US Spec tires (from a photo I took, so not all information is visable):

Front
ContiProContact
155/60R15 74T
Treadwear 400 Traction AA Temperature 4
Max Load 375KG (827 lbs)

Rear
ContiProContact
175/55R15 77T

hobbit
11-29-2007, 11:16 AM
Wow, that must be, uh, interesting to work on.
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featherfoot
04-05-2008, 04:19 PM
it's too expensive and takes premium gas. i'm waiting for a diesel or flex fuel version, maybe even a small "el camino" style.

MetroMPG
04-05-2008, 07:19 PM
i'm waiting for a diesel or flex fuel version, maybe even a small "el camino" style.

No need to wait! Geo Metro "el Camino conversion":

http://palmettofurnishings.com/flatart/My_Homepage_Files/IMG_63.jpg

http://palmettofurnishings.com/flatart/My_Homepage_Files/Page5.html

A fraction of the price, takes regular gas, and will beat the pants off a smart in the hands of a determined hypermiler. :D

featherfoot
04-05-2008, 10:36 PM
they need to register pimpmygeo.com lol....
http://palmettofurnishings.com/flatart/My_Homepage_Files/IMG_334.jpg

xcel
04-06-2008, 12:07 AM
Hi Tab:

___That “pretty in shocking pink” Metromino almost blinded me it was so bright :D

___Good Luck

___Wayne



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