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The more technically oriented of you might enjoy this report:

http://www.esowatch.com/doc/Levi%2C_Giuseppe_-_Report_on_heat_production_during_preliminary_tests_on_the_Rossi_Ni-H_reactor_%282010-2011%29.004810.pdf

Background for the report:

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2011/mar/17/nuclear-future-beyond-japan/

Apparently these italian scholars have found a way to combine nickel and hydrogen in a way that releases energy on a nuclear energy scale without producing dangerous radiation and waste. Massive interest and scepticism at the same time makes my head spin...

Edit:
Report from latest experiment where energy is produced for 18 hours without fossile fuel consumption
(that is 20 kW continuous from a one-liter metal tube!):
http://www.nyteknik.se/nyheter/energi_miljo/energi/article3108242.ece

I hope its true. This part is suspicious:

http://www.nyteknik.se/nyheter/energi_miljo/energi/article3091266.ece

I hope its true. This part is suspicious:

http://www.nyteknik.se/nyheter/energi_miljo/energi/article3091266.ece

Maybe it isn't, really(suspicious, I mean). Since the research in this field has been so discredited and is respected on a level with UFO-research for some years now their only option to convince anyone is to start selling units and create a working power plant. It's the right thing to do in my opinion. History of academia has shown that to convince any scholar about anything that he has put his career into is impossible anyway.

I didn't read it, but is this COLD FUSION again?
Charlie

similar, hopefully a practical source of power this time... dont sell your Exxon stock yet.

I saved the PDF in my "bunk" directory, along with stuff on
magnet motors, overunity schemes, excessively-hopeful "analyses"
on Tesla's work, siphon hydro power, etc. It's rather astounding
to me that people actually put in so much time trying to document
these total falsehoods.
.
_H*

I didn't read it, but is this COLD FUSION again?
Charlie

No, the professor is very specific about calling it an exotermal reaction, just to avoid those unmentionable words above.

Whatever is happening, it is hard to see how we could be cheating.

I saved the PDF in my "bunk" directory, along with stuff on
magnet motors, overunity schemes, excessively-hopeful "analyses"
on Tesla's work, siphon hydro power, etc. It's rather astounding
to me that people actually put in so much time trying to document
these total falsehoods.
.
_H*

In the world of quantum physics there is so much going on that I we do not understand, that I won't be so quick to deem this a falsehood. If they really get a powerplant running this year as planned there won't be much to be sceptical about :)

No, the professor is very specific about calling it an exotermal reaction, just to avoid those unmentionable words above.



It better be an exothermic reaction, otherwise its a power Sink instead of a power producer.

And they ARE selling Cold Fusion, but trying to spin it otherwise.

An infinite endothermic reaction would be pretty useful, too!

All good perpetual motion machines use magnets, and quantum magnets are even better.

Maybe I just missed it, but I couln't find anything accounting for the hydrogen flux through the device. You can get a lot of joules of heat by burning through a hydrogen cylinder!

Maybe I just missed it, but I couln't find anything accounting for the hydrogen flux through the device. You can get a lot of joules of heat by burning through a hydrogen cylinder!

Apparently they measure the hydrogen bottle before and after, and they even disconnect the bottle and let the device run for 15 minutes.

An infinite endothermic reaction would be pretty useful, too!

All good perpetual motion machines use magnets, and quantum magnets are even better.

Well, it's hard to get closer to infinite endothermic reaction than the reaction of hydrogen and nickel to produce copper. They need about 10^16 reactions per second to produce 10 kW. Compare that to the avogadro number that is more than 10^23 which tell you about how many atoms there is in an ounce of nickel. You just need 1 in of every 10,000,000 atoms to react to get this result with a mole of nickel.

I'm as sceptical as you, but I like the idea.

But what the heck, if black holes are loosing energy despite nothing can escape a black hole, why can't a proton enter a nickel core by some curious mechanism?

SCAM dressed up with some scientific jargon.

Should have been announced today instead.

Should have been announced today instead.

Why?

Hi Shrek:

Yesterday was April 1st ;)

Wayne

April Fools joke..

Actually, I know of a newspaper that announced that anyone appearing in front of their office wearing a red santa-hat would get a free holiday. Since this was on 1'st of april everyone thought this was a joke.

It was indeed an april-fools day joke, and the fools were those that did not believe it since the handful of people that actually came got the holiday for free as promised :)

Actually, I know of a newspaper that announced that anyone appearing in front of their office wearing a red santa-hat would get a free holiday. Since this was on 1'st of april everyone thought this was a joke.

It was indeed an april-fools day joke, and the fools were those that did not believe it since the handful of people that actually came got the holiday for free as promised :)

:thumbs_up::thumbs_up: Things are not always as they appear, especially when we look at something according to an already formed opinion.

If this 'has legs', we will no longer be able to say 'baloney' when something is amiss.

DAS

If this 'has legs', we will no longer be able to say 'baloney' when something is amiss.

DAS

Thanks! Now I know the history behind that expression :)

I have a degree in physics, and I can't see how they would be cheating this (other than this being a full hoax with everyone involced acting as in a movie)

Also there is a movie from an interview swedish professors on youtube where they agree that we should not rule this out as a scam quite yet:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vt2JqEmaUGc

One of these professors, mr Essén wrote this scientific paper

http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/physics/pdf/0607/0607138v1.pdf

which should be enough to prove that he is entitled to an opinion on the subject.

Quote from his article:
In order to get fusion of, say, deuterons, one normally requires very high
temperatures. The reason for this is twofold: firstly a large kinetic energy
is needed for the particles to penetrate the Coulomb barriers, and secondly
high speeds are needed to get appreciable reaction rates in spite of very small
cross sections. The well known problem with this is that the high temperature
makes high density and confinement difficult to achieve. Another problem
is that as the speeds go up the cross sections go down. The purpose here is
to present a radically different idea of achieving fusion, an idea that starts
from the observation that at relativistic speeds the Coulomb repulsion can
be balanced by a magnetic attraction.

Edit: This is what he say of himself on his homepage:

"I am senior lecturer (associate professor) at the Department of Mechanics, KTH, Stockholm, Sweden. I am also Director of undergraduate studies (studierektor) and Chairman of the Swedish Skeptics (Föreningen Vetenskap och Folkbildning, VoF)."

I will breathe a sigh of relief once the experiment can be reproduced by a third party.. but the most likely explanation is that it is baloney.

Someone is trying to hide the baloney!

I will breathe a sigh of relief once the experiment can be reproduced by a third party.. but the most likely explanation is that it is baloney.

Someone is trying to hide the baloney!


This is getting better and better. I never thought I'd be biting my nails over physics news:

http://pesn.com/2011/04/07/9501805_Rossi_Cold_Fusion_Validated_by_Swedish_Skeptics_Society/