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Chuck
10-28-2009, 11:26 PM
http://www.cleanmpg.com/photos/data/2/AmericanFlag.jpg Brazil is #4 for similar reasons (http://www.tnr.com/blog/the-vine/copenhagen-not-just-about-us-and-china)

http://www.youtube.com/v/KIpt_BIrIzM&hl=en&fs=1&Jesse Zwick - TNR (http://www.tnr.com) - Oct 28, 2009

It's also killing off species such as the tiger (http://www.treehugger.com/files/2009/10/tigers-extinct-15-20-years.php). So does the benefits of ethanol in Brazil outweigh it's deforestation? --Ed.

It's well-known that the United States and China are the two biggest greenhouse-gas polluters in the world. But relatively few people can name number three on that list. It's **********, thanks to heavy deforestation:

It is that frenzied rate of deforestation that has propelled ********, home to 237 million people, into its top-three spot in the global league table of climate change villains. According to a government report released last month, the destruction of forests and carbon-rich peatlands accounts for 80 per cent of the 2.3 billion tons of carbon dioxide emitted in the country annually.

And, for similar reasons, Brazil now ranks as the fourth-largest CO2 emitter in the world. So, while getting the United States and China to agree to binding emission targets is on top of the to-do list at Copenhagen this December, hammering out some sort of agreement on deforestation isn't far behind. The most promising contender, at the moment, is a program to pay developing countries not to chop down their trees or burn their peatlands. Incidentally, this is one of the cheapest ways to reduce CO2 emissions, but, as Michael McCarthy points out, some of the current options being considered make environmentalists queasy... http://www.tnr.com/blog/the-vine/copenhagen-not-just-about-us-and-china

smart-za
10-29-2009, 01:35 AM
Indonesia or Philippines - I can't remember which.

Incidentally, I read that some of the oil-rich nations are pushing for compensation for lost revenue due to carbon caps. In other words, they want to be paid for _not_ selling oil. To me, this seems superficially similar to paying developing nations not to cut down trees or drain their peat bogs. Does anyone have a different view?

-Simon

ALS
10-29-2009, 09:14 AM
Honduras has major laws on logging. Every piece of wood used for construction you have to prove where it came from. Back in the 60's and 70's major corporation practically deforested the country. Today there is ban on any logging on public or government land.
Get caught with an illegal handgun you might see a few months in jail. Get caught with a Chain Saw without a Government logging permit and a licence for the Chain Saw your looking at 15-20 years in Prison. They are not playing around when it comes to the trees in Honduras.

phoebeisis
10-29-2009, 09:20 AM
Brazil would be my guess, but since it was mentioned, must not be.Indonesia has tigers, right? They probably use wood or charcoal to prepare food-lotta CO2+ particulates(that might be slowing global warming)

worthywads
10-29-2009, 09:32 AM
I'll go with Indonesia.

Chuck
10-29-2009, 01:08 PM
Did anyone click the link to read the entire article?

Answer is on 3rd line immediately before the link - Indonesia.

worthywads
10-29-2009, 01:39 PM
We were told to guess first?

Dr Wooth
10-29-2009, 01:55 PM
We were told to guess first?Yes - make a guess, then click the link to find the answer when the entire article comes up.

I do clinics on ADD - PM me if interested.

bnther
10-29-2009, 03:40 PM
Is it just me, or is anyone deeply troubled by the fact that our future as a species rests in our collective choice of current convenience over long term common sense?!

Tochatihu
10-30-2009, 08:01 PM
The palm oil boom is quite an amazing thing. It is a real money maker, compared to (recognized) other values for the land. In the previous big drought a lot of 'em burned to the ground, which didn't look to good for the carbon benefits of that particular biofuel. Hoping that does not repeat in the next Indonesian drought.

DAS



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