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xcel
03-15-2009, 06:27 PM
http://www.cleanmpg.com/photos/data/2/AmericanFlag.jpg "To suggest that people should look at a Chevy Aveo just because it's cheaper to own doesn't really help consumers out much." (latimesblogs.latimes.com/uptospeed/2009/03/best-car-value.html#more)

http://www.cleanmpg.com/photos/data/501/2009_Toyota_Prius_Touring1.jpgMartin Zimmerman – LA Times (latimes.com) – Mar. 6, 2009

2009 Toyota Prius-II (non-Touring) – Using conservative CleanMPG calcs last summer, the Prius' TCO was in the $29,000 USD range over 5-years.

In this case, I will tend to agree with CR’s rankings. -- Ed.

Los Angeles, CA -- Consumer Reports recently named the 2009 Toyota Prius as "the best new-car value" among the 300 vehicles evaluated by the magazine's staff.

Edmunds, the online car shopping and data site, begs to differ.

In a rare public display of intra-industry acrimony, Santa Monica-based Edmunds issued a news release this week warning that CR's ranking of best new-car values and its crowning of the Prius hybrid as best in show "could lead cost-conscious shoppers astray."

"The Prius is a lot of cool things, but 'value' is not something that pops into mind," Edmunds CEO Jeremy Anwyl said in an interview. "If you're buying a Prius to save money, you're going to be in for a shock."

According to Edmunds proprietary "true cost of ownership" yardstick, the No. 1 vehicle in terms of after-purchase costs is the Honda Civic DX-VP. Edmunds calculates the Civic's five-year ownership cost at $29,037. That was much less than the $37,079 cost for the top-of-the-line Prius Touring model, which the site ranked 41st. The less elaborately equipped Prius Standard model fared better in the survey, ranking 17th with a five-year total ownership cost of $33,848.

The cost of ownership, as defined by both Edmunds and Consumer Reports, doesn't include what you actually pay for a vehicle. It measures all the additional direct and indirect costs -- such as depreciation, fuel costs, insurance and repairs -- paid by a new-car buyer over a given period of time...

The No. 2 car in Edmunds' "small sedan" rankings is the Chevy Aveo, "a car that did horribly in our testing," Fisher says. "It was slow, it wasn't very fuel efficient for its class, and its emergency handling was not very good… http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/uptospeed/2009/03/best-car-value.html#more

spitfiregirl52
03-15-2009, 08:32 PM
This is funny because I'm trading in my Aveo for a hybrid. Not only to save on gas but because I wanted a SAFER car! I'm afraid that if I got in an accident with this one, I'd be smooshed like a tin can... which I've heard happen before.

xcel
03-15-2009, 08:39 PM
Hi Spitfiregirl:

___You are definitely making a move up with the Prius-II/III or the Insight-II regarding safety vs. the Aveo...

___Good Luck

___Wayne

Indigo
03-15-2009, 09:10 PM
Geeez! If I had not a lot of money to spend, it sure wouldn't be for buying an Aevo! It's a totally icky car.

Yaris? Sure. Fit? You bet!

Aevo? Not on your life!

Of course, for a very little bit more money, you can upgrade to a Cobalt. That was actually my second choice (I bought a Scion XD). But the Cobalt was pretty darned close choice.

But the Aevo was never on the table for consideration.

lightfoot
03-16-2009, 06:26 AM
After many years of subscribing, I gave up on CR several years ago. It was always clear that they approached autos from their own POV, so I had to do a sort of "mental offset" when reading their reviews.

Then they started comparison testing upscale vehicles, which seemed pointless: I thought CR was all about saving money, so why spend more for status and features that were unimportant (to me at least!).

The last straw was when CR panned the Insight I as noisy and cramped. I believed CR and did not consider one in 2003 when I got my Subaru. When I finally got my Insight I in 2006, I found it neither noisy nor cramped, and huge fun to drive besides, which I don't recall CR mentioning in the review.

In fairness, I think all reviewers adopt a POV (sometimes different ones for different vehicles), so reviews really are not a substitute for checking out the vehicle yourself (which can be difficult with low-production vehicles like the Insight I).



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