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xcel
12-21-2008, 11:39 PM
Audi’s vision is still expensive but is leading the way. (cleanmpg.com/forums/showthread.php?p=175544)

http://www.cleanmpg.com/photos/data/501/Audi_Sportback_LEDs.jpgWayne Gerdes – CleanMPG (cleanmpg.com) – Dec. 21, 2008

Audi A1 Sportback – This LED headlight design says “Dare me”

Ingolstadt – Light-emitting diode’s (LED’s) equal efficient, reliable and one-of-a-kind automobile lighting. Audi was the first manufacturer to recognize the potential of LED lighting technology and incorporate it into its production vehicles. In fact, many Audi models are recognizable at a glance thanks to LED daytime running lights (DRL’s). The new Audi R8 was designed entirely on the basis of energy efficient and environmentally friendly LED headlight technology.

A tiny dot on your finger, as minute as a grain of sand. Fortunately, this speck of material uses electrical energy to generate more white light than any conventional light source in the world. An LED is a semiconductor device –just a square millimeter in size – which boasts a remarkable physical property. It can convert electrical energy directly into light and is unbeatably efficient when it comes to energy consumption. Today’s xenon and LED headlights are four times more energy efficient than halogen headlights. It is estimated that by 2018, LED technology should be approximately eight times more efficient than a halogen light. In addition, LEDs practically indefinite service life makes for an intriguing reason to use them in future automobile designs.

Performance LED's as a light source for headlamps?

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LED DRL’s and Tail lamps of the Audi A6 Avant

The tiny light sources present designers with opportunities. Stefan Sielaff, Audi’s Head of Design, explains, “LEDs unlock the door to unrealized design possibilities for exterior design and interiors alike.” A number of LED’s can be combined to create various shapes to provide a distinctive visual appearance. The taillights of the Audi A6 Avant are likely the best-known example of any tail end. These LED’s in a ring-shaped array have become every bit as instantly recognizable as the sweeping LED DRL's at the front end of the Audi A4.

The Audi R8 constitutes Audi’s future lighting strategy and is available with the world’s first all-LED headlights. In addition to the DRL’s, the turn signals as well as low-beam and high-beam headlights are executed by means of LED’s.

“A lot of people initially viewed this development as a mere marketing gimmick. Yet everyone who has seen these lights in action is not only astonished by the excellent output, but also thrilled with the homogenous distribution of light and the agreeable, daylight-esque color of the light,” says Dr. Wolfgang Huhn, Head of the Light and Visibility Department at Audi.

Greater safety, higher fuel economy

LEDs are capable of reducing a vehicle’s fuel consumption. When DRL’s become mandatory in the European Union beginning May 2011, Audi models with LED technology will be ahead of the curve. Just one vehicle’s conventional low-beam headlights, taillights, and license-plate illumination consume approximately 200 watts – which the alternator must constantly generate. By comparison, a mere 15 watts is required to power the new Audi A4’s modern LED DRL's, which have the added advantage of far better visibility for other road users. All in all, that equates to a decrease of about .5 mpgUS and about 4 g/km fewer CO2 emissions. Thanks to this new technology, Audi models with LED DRL’s sold in 2008 alone will consume during their first year of use approximately 2.5 Million fewer gallons of fuel and emit approximately 25,000 fewer metric tons of CO2 vs. vehicles equipped with halogen based LED DRL’s.

The discovery of digital light

“One day, a supplier called to tell me that white LEDs with 18 lumens per watt would soon be on the market. Suffice to say, that immediately got my attention,” said Stephan Berlitz, Head of Lighting Technology and Electronics in Ingolstadt. Lumens per watt are the horsepower of light: They light up the eyes of light developers just as the words torque and power light up the eyes of engine experts. For the sake of comparison, an ordinary household light bulb generates about 20 to 25 lumens per watt. A modern passenger vehicle’s xenon headlights, on the other hand, are very energy-efficient and create some 80 lumens per watt.

Though the 18 lumens generated by the first LED headlights in the Audi Q7ish Pikes Peak concept are old news, they created quite a stir in those days. The next generation of white high-performance LEDs will hit the market next year with a whopping 100 lumens per watt, thus surpassing the efficiency of xenon lights for the first time. This can be traced back to dramatic developments. “LED’s are similar to computer chips. Every two years there’s an increase in output of about 30 percent,” explained Berlitz, “and we’ll soon be able to create so much light with LEDs that entirely new applications will become possible.”

Intelligent light for every driving situation

Audi developers envision even better things for future generations of headlights. For example, there are already high-beam headlights in pre-series development which will allow drivers to navigate roads at night without temporarily blinding oncoming drivers. This is made possible by a variable distribution of light: An electronic system continuously calculates the distance to any approaching vehicles to ensure that the road ahead is ideally illuminated at all times – without irritating oncoming drivers.

http://www.youtube.com/v/yOTy1eKIUEw&hl=en&fs=1
Audi R8 All-LED headlight design.

Right Lane Cruiser
12-22-2008, 12:27 AM
When can I get them for my Insight?? :D

seftonm
12-22-2008, 01:28 AM
I saw an A5 with the LED DRL strip the other day, it was very eye-catching. One thing I dislike about some LED taillights is that their pulse rate is slow enough for me to see the flickering, which is distracting. The Japanese, Germans, and large trucks are usually fine, but some Fords, Jaguars, and Cadillacs really bother me. I hope they improve, I can't imagine what it would look like if the road was full of those vehicles.

lightfoot
12-22-2008, 07:31 AM
One hope is that they will further reduce the size of headlight assemblies and minimize shape requirements. Which might help designers make the front ends of cars more aero.

But I'm sorry to see the trend towards DRL's, at least as incorporated into headlights. This greatly reduces the effectiveness of headlights as signaling devices both in daylight and at night. Having them as running lights would be fine.

Right Lane Cruiser
12-22-2008, 07:42 AM
Mike, that annoys me as well. What is even more annoying is the blinding nature of those brakelights. A good example is the Accord. :(

John, I agree. I don't like DRL at all and I do know that it significantly reduces the effectiveness of a tool used by motorcycle riders for decades. Not a good thing.

voodoo22
12-22-2008, 08:12 AM
IMO, all DRL's do is waste fuel and make it easier for certain drivers to forget to turn on their real lights. I see it every day in my commute, someone driving with no lights on because their DRL's make them think their lights are on.

donee
12-22-2008, 10:17 AM
Hi All,

Saw apparently a new Porshe 911, with a line of LED's across a lower vent operating as DRL's. Looked good.

SlowHand
12-22-2008, 12:36 PM
What really bugs me about the LED tail lights is the instant on aspect of the LED's. There is no ramp up-down like on incandescent bulbs. The sudden bright full on and full off of breaklights can be anoying. A slight ramp to the drive circuit would be in order I think.
Does this bother anyone else?

I'm surprised at how slowly the LED taillights are becoming mainstream. It seams like they would save a lot of space and complication. I guess it is a re-design cost issue.

Jim

fuzzy
12-22-2008, 01:01 PM
What really bugs me about the LED tail lights is the instant on aspect of the LED's. There is no ramp up-down like on incandescent bulbs. The sudden bright full on and full off of breaklights can be anoying. A slight ramp to the drive circuit would be in order I think.
Does this bother anyone else? ...

Quite the opposite, this is an important safety feature. At highway speeds, it provides nearly a full carlength earlier warning than the pokey old incandescent lamps.

If it were my choice, LED (or anything else similarly fast) would already be mandatory for brake lights. Not taillights and turn signals, just the brake lights.

The slow adoption is because of the higher initial cost, though this is rapidly shrinking.



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